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Meta capturing employee mouse movements, keystrokes for AI training data

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/tech/technology/meta-to-start-capturing-employee-mouse-movements-keystrokes-for-ai-training-data/articleshow/130422612.cms?from=mdr
62•dlx•1h ago

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wrs•1h ago
>data collected would not be used for performance assessments or any other purpose besides model training

And you expect Meta employees, of all people, to believe this?

orangecoffee•1h ago
Does not matter? I think the high compensation will be what will drive the compliance.
anonym00se1•44m ago
In the midst of their 4th straight year of layoffs with another looming 20% cut coming, I'm guessing Meta employees are a tiny but suspicious.
dylan604•8m ago
These are the same employees that willfully code the largest spy network on the planet, so it seems like they are willing to believe a lot
HoldOnAMinute•4m ago
Are they merging with Palantir any time soon?
tristanj•1h ago
Original source: https://www.reuters.com/sustainability/boards-policy-regulat...
bradlys•1h ago
Data collection isn’t new. The training is.
shimman•28m ago
You don't think collecting this type of intimate information about your employees as a major violation of the social contract?
bradlys•8m ago
I’m just saying that they’ve been collecting this info for years. Keyloggers, etc. are on all the computers you’re given. Employees didn’t have any expectation of privacy - just a hope. Now, it’s clear it’s completely gone and so the hope and goodwill is gone.
jmull•55m ago
I like to imagine they’ll mostly capture meta employees using AIs to do work.

Then they’ll deploy models trained on this, and begin capturing employees using AIs that are good at using AIs to do work.

Repeat a few times and they’ll start capturing the keystrokes from people mashing their heads into keyboards with dispair and exclaiming, “Why can’t these models do anything anymore!!”

arjvik•51m ago
While it would be a hilarious failure mode to encounter, this is actually a good thing!

These models already have the skills that humans were using them for, so either by training the models to use subagents or simply inlining the work done by the AI, you have a much easier time training the model to perform tasks from a human-distribution. The humans have done the work of making the human-distribution look more like an AI distribution.

bwestergard•26m ago
Doesn't this assume that what humans are current doing with LLM agents is working out? Isn't it a bit early to bet on that to this degree?
dylan604•9m ago
Not when all of the marketing of LLMs is touting their abilities to do the exact thing and that is what investors are being presented.

If it is as you say, then eventually the house of cards will crumble. Then we can finally go back to work and quit being inundated with needing to use AI for everything.

loeg•37m ago
For context, when the article says "a list of work-related apps and websites," this includes Google properties like gmail, docs, etc, and social media websites like Facebook and Instagram, with no provision for excluding personal accounts.
tmp10423288442•33m ago
No one intelligent should be logging into their personal accounts on their work devices in any case - it's always been the case (at least in the US) that companies can do whatever invasive scanning they want on devices they own.
dist-epoch•18m ago
You know you are at work and monitored.

You can browser personal accounts from your phone.

dylan604•7m ago
on your phone not connected to corp wifi
astrange•3m ago
That doesn't matter anymore unless they have an SSL proxy. If you have ECH/ODoH anyway.
mint5•6m ago
And Ideally not connected to company WiFi
fidotron•34m ago
Meta going all in on their brand with this.

Someone had to do it, distasteful though it may be. Could be quite hilarious what it learns in the process.

dist-epoch•17m ago
That people watch TikTok instead of Instagram reels. Quite embarrassing.
dylan604•6m ago
It would be really embarrassing if this is what it takes to come to that realization rather than the same way the rest of the world does.
jtemplestein•33m ago
I wonder if this screen + mouse + keyboard (+ camera + speaker + mic) interface is really the right level of abstraction to model a “digital entity”

Sure, you can do everything a human can, but it also seems VERY inefficient

As an alternative, maybe you could just do network in/out?

evanjrowley•27m ago
It's the same approach as Windows Recall, but all data remains sovereign to the company generating it.
rvz•25m ago
Meta can even afford to destroy themselves and their own employees.

More proof that they do not care about you at all. This is Meta's way of moving fast and destroying everything at all costs.

dagmx•20m ago
This is going to be a huge chilling factor for employees. You’d no longer be able to disent, or discuss anything non-work related with even the slightest expectation of privacy.

Yes they could have accessed logs before but there’s a difference between directed checking after incidents and active surveillance at scale.

simmerup•15m ago
Yeah, if at any time Mark can ask Meta AI ‘which of my employees insulted me today’ for example, that’s wild
everdrive•3m ago
Yes, but I cannot imagine Meta cares about chilling their employees. They're deep into the "extract more value" phase and are no longer bringing in the cutting edge talent.
zingababba•5m ago
Hell YEAH BJJ legend Mark Zuckerberg just put all meta employees into a testosterone fueled triangle choke. Bezos is looking like a complete SOY BOY right now. No one can implement a DYSTOPIAN HELL like the ZUCK.
camjw•4m ago
I guess this is why they acquired https://www.limitless.ai/ ?

Hyprglaze

https://github.com/slastra/hyprglaze
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