The US needed to smuggle Stuxnet in, but with networking equipment there's a treasure trove of shitty practices. Cisco and Juniper have been caught hiding hard-coded password how many times now?
Same goes obviously for ie Chinese stuff, but I don't think you guys realize how for outsider the border between China and US in terms of morality is practically non-existent now. I don't mean it in any snarky way, just looking at facts.
Also, China doesn't invade countries half around the world and bring them to utter destruction and misery for generations to come, killing thousands to millions of civilians and creating breeding grounds for things like ISIS. They do their own thing, quietly and patiently, with laser focus and for outsiders its at most 'not great not terrible' category.
TacticalCoder•1h ago
Selling cars, worldwide, made sense when they weren't always connected to the mother land. Germans selling you a BMW in the 80s? You've got the key: you turn the key. They couldn't turn off all the BMWs if suddenly the US were to be at war with Germany again.
But this madness of cars receiving OTA updates and remote subscriptions and whatnots?
jeroenhd•1h ago
Doing business with the enemy always comes with a risk. For countries that don't build their own networking equipment (including the PCBs and chips), you have to accept some level of risk or you have to avoid such technology all together.
exitb•1h ago
jeroenhd•58m ago
steveBK123•48m ago
Also that is an "eventual problem".
The era of smart everything exposes you to pinpoint time/place/person disablement by the enemy.
dasKrokodil•8m ago
kilpikaarna•55m ago
Or indeed with allies, as Europe is just finding out...
jeroenhd•46m ago
Heavily sanctioned countries like Afghanistan and Iran have one thing going for them, and that's that they can't easily build a dependence on foreign technology (though not having such technology at all is arguably just as bad).
steveBK123•53m ago
Imagine an enemy country using zero-days to track a military leader via their personal device(s), then disabling their smart civilian vehicle they use to commute to work. Final leg is they had previously parked drones along their expected commute routes for just such an occasion and..
edit: see interesting hypothetical future war series on YT, specifically this bit.. https://youtu.be/drr7mmibt9E?t=157
CGMthrowaway•42m ago
kakacik•32m ago
Ah, think about it, the luxury of owning your own car, you and only you. I can almost imagine it. The future, its bright.
halJordan•2m ago