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Show HN: LLMs consume 5.4x less mobile energy than ad-supported web search

https://dupr.at/thermodynamic-efficiency-inversion
3•duprat•2h ago
The standard AI energy debate compares server-side LLM inference to a server-side Google query. I think this misses most of what actually happens on a mobile device during a real search session.

I built a parametric model of the full end-to-end mobile search session: 4G/5G radio energy, SoC rendering cost for a 2.5MB page, programmatic advertising RTB auctions running in the background, and network transmission costs for both sides. Then compared it to an equivalent LLM session.

Main finding across 10,000 Monte Carlo draws: on mobile, a standard LLM session uses on average 5.4x less energy than a classic ad-supported web search session. Programmatic advertising alone accounts for up to 41% of device battery drain per session.

Caveats I tried to be explicit about:

- Advantage disappears on fixed Wi-Fi/fiber

- Reverses for reasoning models

- Parametric model, not empirical device measurement. Greenspector has offered to run terminal measurements for v2

- Jevons paradox applies

SSRN working paper, not peer-reviewed. Methodology and Monte Carlo distributions fully documented in the paper. Happy to defend the assumptions.

DOI: 10.2139/ssrn.6287918

Amália- Open Source Large Language Model (LLM) for European Portuguese

https://portugal.gov.pt/gc24/comunicacao/noticias/modelo-de-linguagem-em-grande-escala-para-a-lin...
1•marcogarces•1m ago•0 comments

Another Microsoft Copilot AD injected into 4M GitHub commits

https://twitter.com/jitbit/status/2047990043688464443
1•jitbit•2m ago•1 comments

Martin Galway's music source files from 1980's Commodore 64 games

https://github.com/MartinGalway/C64_music
1•ingve•4m ago•0 comments

With TPU 8, Google Makes GenAI Systems Better, Not Just Bigger

https://www.nextplatform.com/compute/2026/04/24/with-tpu-8-google-makes-genai-systems-much-better...
1•rbanffy•7m ago•0 comments

Happy Horse AI

https://www.happyhorseai.store
1•alanzhan•8m ago•0 comments

South Korean workers learn AI after work, outpacing their companies

https://english.kyodonews.net/articles/-/74668
1•01-_-•8m ago•0 comments

PR: Tim Cook Apple Investors: Drop Dead (2014)

https://nationalcenter.org/ncppr/2014/02/28/tim-cook-to-apple-investors-drop-dead/
1•SanjayMehta•8m ago•0 comments

Intel soars on signs AI boom for CPUs is here

https://www.reuters.com/business/intel-set-record-high-ai-driven-cpu-demand-powers-upbeat-forecas...
1•01-_-•9m ago•0 comments

Cafestol/kahweol concentrations in workplace machine coffee vs. other brewing

https://www.nmcd-journal.com/article/S0939-4753(25)00087-0/fulltext
2•beeforpork•11m ago•0 comments

Spotify: The archive – the tech behind your 2025 wrapped highlights

https://engineering.atspotify.com/2026/3/inside-the-archive-2025-wrapped
1•theorchid•11m ago•0 comments

Serendipity Machines

https://www.shishyko.com/essays/serendipity-machines.html
1•shishy•16m ago•0 comments

Project Deal: Claude-run marketplace experiment

https://www.anthropic.com/features/project-deal
1•EFLKumo•16m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Lazytilt TUI for Tilt.dev

https://github.com/tdi/lazytilt
1•tdi•18m ago•0 comments

Creastor beats stan and all others on fees alone

https://creastor.com/
1•TheFireTiger•19m ago•1 comments

Clawcenter – Minimal Mission Control

1•borjasolerme•19m ago•1 comments

Ask HN: What's a mind-blowing fact you know?

3•chistev•20m ago•0 comments

42 lost pages of the New Testament manuscript discovered

https://phys.org/news/2026-04-lost-pages-testament-manuscript.html
2•pseudolus•20m ago•0 comments

Claude Opus 4.7 has turned into an overzealous query cop, devs complain

https://www.theregister.com/2026/04/23/claude_opus_47_auc_overzealous/
1•freedomben•22m ago•0 comments

You probably wouldn't notice if an AI chatbot slipped ads into its responses

https://theconversation.com/you-probably-wouldnt-notice-if-an-ai-chatbot-slipped-ads-into-its-res...
2•geox•25m ago•0 comments

Possibility of modifying an image to see without glasses? (2010)

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/2563471/is-it-possible-to-modify-an-image-so-someone-with-myo...
5•zeristor•25m ago•1 comments

Meta signs agreement with AWS to power agentic AI on Amazon's Graviton chips

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/aws/meta-aws-graviton-ai-partnership
1•ksec•28m ago•1 comments

Why LLMs Can't Replace Strategic Insight

https://hbr.org/2026/03/researchers-asked-llms-for-strategic-advice-they-got-trendslop-in-return
1•Antibabelic•32m ago•0 comments

The art of splitting without splitting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jr8KxZvosYI
1•RebootStr•32m ago•0 comments

Rust open-source headless browser for AI agents and web scraping

https://github.com/h4ckf0r0day/obscura
2•guerby•40m ago•0 comments

Gleam gets source maps, 1.16.0

https://gleam.run/news/javascript-source-maps/
2•birdculture•47m ago•0 comments

A fun 5 minute take on AI in business

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDL3Ch7Nz8c
1•lifeisstillgood•48m ago•0 comments

DeFi United calls on the world for $292M rsETH relief

https://defiunited.world/
2•kindkang2024•53m ago•0 comments

I wrote an async LSM storage engine in Rust

https://github.com/mehrdad3301/tiny-lsm
2•mehrdad__3301•55m ago•1 comments

Code Is Free Now. What's Left Is Us

https://p.ocmatos.com/blog/code-is-free-now-whats-left-is-us.html
1•pmatos•56m ago•0 comments

Agentic AI for Hormuz Shock Modelling

https://avkcode.github.io/blog/hormuz-shock.html
1•KyleVlaros•59m ago•0 comments