I didn't consider it a defect, though. I can hardly imagine cheap products adopting this solution.
But then I read the words "The malfunction is due to multiple models of containers missing a pressure relief function in the center of the stopper."
How non-existent does your quality assurance have to be in order to miss such a critical, obvious and easy to identify flaw ?
Looking at the published photographs, you don't even need training to identify that manufacturing defect. A five year old could spot the difference between "lid has a hole" and "lid does not have a hole".
My partner has one of these so just checked it. It does have the pressure relief feature, but it turns out it's also missing all the seals anyway so never would have been a problem!
Looking at the version that's not recalled, I would guess it costs more to make.
Me standing there, kombucha and peach slices pulverized against the cap, kombucha leaving a large mark on the ceiling it all happened so fast, glad I was wearing my glasses.
No injuries except my pride, but it did take some hours to clean up.
I wouldn't do it in a thermos, but I guess those are mostly accidents?
Tasted okay though.
My mate brewed his bramble beer by putting his brambles through a juicer and only adding the juice and pulp, because he's cleverer than me and has a certain amount of foresight.
x______________•57m ago
Turns out people leave perishable and fermenting foods in the thermos, and after a while when opened, the pressure lifts the lid of the thermos at quasi-unimaginable speeds, striking the curiously unsuspecting humans straight in the face, with some instances causing permanent damage to vision.
Coffee is hot, but a pressure release system is cool too..
jmalicki•48m ago
traceroute66•46m ago
Scroll down in that article to the section with photographs of "recalled" and "not recalled" lids side by side.
jmalicki•44m ago
traceroute66•40m ago
What point are you trying to make here ?!?!
Given that it should be there, it is quite clearly a product feature on Thermos jars.
So, of many examples that cross my mind.... let's say you were a long-term user of Thermos products. There's your "expectation".
I assume it probably features in the product literature that comes in the box too.
mschuster91•21m ago
I've never seen a thermos-style container with a pressure relief in my life. However, I'm European, it appears that in the US (a country where you have to write disclaimers on microwaves that you shouldn't dry hamsters in them) common sense has been going down the toilet.
Frankly, I'm all for a bit of darwinism here. It's bewildering that there are people who think it's a good idea to open a thermos that has been fermenting for days if not weeks without a lot of caution!
Brian_K_White•4m ago
traceroute66•3m ago
I said "given it should be there" because Thermos have just issued a recall notice where they openly admit liability and they openly state it should be there (see side by side photos in the recall).
I was never seeking to pass judgement on the factual element of whether "it should be there" in the pure definition of the term.
I was just saying "it should be there on THAT product because Thermos says so".
getcrunk•32m ago
cucumber3732842•28m ago
This is an O-ring sealed lid. It should leak once you get it slightly unthreaded. You'd basically have to get it off as fast as possible in order to have it go flying. If the cap is under pressure it'll need a lot of force, which means you'll need to grip it which should contain it.Did people never twist up (to build pressure) and shoot the caps off plastic drink bottles as a child?
If anything good on Thermos for choosing a thread form and plastics that still work nicely under serious force.
I know we all love to screech about safety as thought there's never any tradeoffs because the internet is a place of honesty like that but how much bacteria is this pressure valve gonna harbor? Who's gonna get sick from that?
Brian_K_White•7m ago
smallerize•5m ago
"Is this user error?"
No. If we're recalling a product for a safety issue, it is not user error. There is an engineering error, or a design error, or a manufacturing error. Whatever the product is doing it should not be doing.
globular-toast•38m ago
mschuster91•25m ago
That by far is not enough to forcefully yeet out the cap, probably not even if you take it to an Antarctic research base in -40 °C outdoor weather.
People forgetting about content that ferments however? Kaboom.
globular-toast•10m ago
Happy now?
alentred•22m ago
iammjm•11m ago