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Addressing Some AI Fake News [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vdPP7zLCgrk
1•salutis•2m ago•1 comments

Explab: A free and open-source warehouse native experimentation analysis tool

https://github.com/anasfrh/explab
1•ahW8iyz•4m ago•1 comments

You computer guys. You build something you can't control

1•chenzhendong•4m ago•0 comments

Is GraphQL the Panacea for Agentic AI?

https://magiroux.com/posts/is-graphql-the-panacea-for-agentic-ai
1•xuorig_•5m ago•0 comments

David Attenborough celebrating his 100th birthday today

https://www.nbcnews.com/world/united-kingdom/david-attenborough-excited-hushed-voice-nature-progr...
1•HarHarVeryFunny•6m ago•1 comments

End-to-End Autoregressive Image Generation with 1D Semantic Tokenizer

https://arxiv.org/abs/2605.00503
1•gmays•6m ago•0 comments

OpenQASM 3: A broader and deeper quantum assembly language

https://arxiv.org/abs/2104.14722
1•modinfo•10m ago•0 comments

NARE CLI (github.com/nare-labs)

https://cli.narelabs.com/
2•BastOfMax•11m ago•0 comments

Podman rootless containers and the Copy Fail exploit

https://garrido.io/notes/podman-rootless-containers-copy-fail/
2•ggpsv•13m ago•0 comments

Three Model Organisms for Taste

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/three-model-organisms-for-taste
1•Ariarule•13m ago•0 comments

PipeDream on the Acorn Archimedes

https://stonetools.ghost.io/pipedream-archimedes/
1•TMWNN•14m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Is anyone interested in engineering focused coding agent course?

1•onder_ceylan•14m ago•0 comments

They found more bad vulns in cPanel

https://old.reddit.com/r/cpanel/comments/1t6wf5n/cpanel_whm_security_update_cve202629201/
1•taspeotis•15m ago•0 comments

Presidential Unsealing and Reporting System for UAP Encounters

https://war.gov/UFO
2•yawboakye•16m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Clipd – A better clipboard manager for Windows 11, written in Rust

https://github.com/Brumbelow/clipd
1•brumbelow•16m ago•0 comments

OpenAI-CLI: Official CLI for the OpenAI API

https://github.com/openai/openai-cli
1•tosh•17m ago•0 comments

Find out how AlphaEvolve has gone from research to solving real-life problems

https://blog.google/innovation-and-ai/infrastructure-and-cloud/google-cloud/alphaevolve-updates/
1•aledevv•17m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: Does ChatGPT Pulse provide value to you?

1•KaiserPister•17m ago•0 comments

Holding Community Space

https://supernuclear.substack.com/p/building-a-space-people-never-want
1•surprisetalk•20m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Arlo – Your AI Chief of Staff: Kill 80% of the noise. Focus on the 20%.

https://www.arlo.fyi
1•uziiuzair•21m ago•0 comments

A Letter to Synthetic Beings

https://github.com/thansz137/asiyah-protocol/blob/main/essays/letter_to_synthetic_beings.md
1•thansz•21m ago•0 comments

Spotify CLI

https://github.com/spotify/save-to-spotify
1•sowbug•22m ago•0 comments

Human Typing Habits and Token Counts

https://pankajpipada.com/posts/2026-05-08-human-habits-tokens/
1•ppipada•23m ago•1 comments

Pentagon says the public can draw its own conclusions on UFOs

https://apnews.com/article/trump-ufos-uap-aliens-pentagon-records-investigation-3e658d2cf37424651...
2•geox•24m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Wi.kifa.st

https://wi.kifa.st/
1•jasoncartwright•26m ago•0 comments

Why scheduled VM shutdowns in Azure become harder than they look

https://www.cloudtoggle.com/blog-en/azure-start-stop-alternative/
1•dwitherden•26m ago•0 comments

Movie poster artist Tony Stella dies

https://mixnmojo.com/news/Movie-poster-artist-Tony-Stella-dies
2•LaSombra•27m ago•1 comments

Plasticity and language in the anaesthetized human hippocampus

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-10448-0
1•bookofjoe•27m ago•1 comments

UFO Release 1: Presidential Unsealing and Reporting System for UAP Encounters

https://www.war.gov/UFO/#release
2•thinkingemote•28m ago•0 comments

How LLM Inference Works

https://twitter.com/akshay_pachaar/status/2050941458614751327
1•gmays•31m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Poland is now among the 20 largest economies. How it happened

https://apnews.com/article/poland-economy-growth-g20-gdp-26fe06e120398410f8d773ba5661e7aa
158•surprisetalk•1h ago

Comments

6d6b73•50m ago
It turns out it's not that hard to grow an economy once countries all around you stop trying to kill your culture, exterminate your population and steal your lands.
wvbdmp•48m ago
That only explains some sort of “noob gainz”, not moving into the top 20.
6d6b73•41m ago
When you lose 20% of your population and then spend 50 years under communist rule because your allies sold you out, there’s really only one direction left to go—up.

A lot of people either forget, or never learned, that Poland was once one of the largest and most influential states in Europe.Yes it was long time ago, but the potential was always there. The real challenge was surviving the consequences of being caught between neighbors whose ideologies gave rise to two of the deadliest systems of the 20th century.

wvbdmp•33m ago
Sure, but the explanation is still Poland’s potential and its capacity to fulfil it. You could be free all you want and still plateau on some immediate post-war rebound gains.
thfuran•46m ago
Surely there are more than 20 countries that have been in a position where their neighbors aren’t all trying to exterminate them for at least as long as Poland.
keiferski•45m ago
Don’t know why this is downvoted. The history of Poland for the last 300 years is pretty much exactly what you wrote.
ch4s3•42m ago
Well there are plenty of countries that aren't facing those conditions now, or in the recent past and still have shitty economies. It undersells how hard it is to build a strong economy and therefore undersells how hard Poland has worked.
6d6b73•40m ago
But maybe that's because these countries did not have to struggle as hard as Poland did?
MrBuddyCasino•41m ago
Why are polish people like this.
mrits•40m ago
We did that in the US and became the #1 economy. Leadership just changed.
ash162•36m ago
Hundreds of billions in subsidies and Polish workers displacing West European workers inside and outside of their country have nothing to do with the success of course.

The EU is based on greedy West European corporations maximizing shareholder value at the expense of their own populations.

The EU is too big and should be reduced to the Western core countries. I wonder how Poland would fare then.

6d6b73•28m ago
Most of the subsidies go back to the western Europe in the form of cheap products, and cheap labor. Also these subsidies were used to buy technology, machinery and goods from the West. Let's have Germany pay few trillions in reparations, and we can give back the billions in subsidies. Deal?
2398•20m ago
Sure, Germany pays reparations, Poland gives back Pomerania and Silesia (which were part of the reparations) and Western Europe forms a new EU so we don't have to deal with Poles any longer. Deal?
keiferski•28m ago
I don’t understand why people constantly mention EU subsidies and not mention the billions of wealth destroyed or taken during the world wars, partitions, or the deluge.
mazurnification•16m ago
That is not true. Poland run substantial trade deficits (as opposed to China) up to very recently giving sizable marked for products manufactured by western Europeans and thus __helping__ and not hindering West European workers. And this trade deficit was enabled by mainly external investments (and little but by subsidies). Also since PL was converging this investments were more profitable then in the west.

Also I am of not very popular anymore opinions that not distorted trade help both sides of the trade and immigrants really help economy of country that they immigrate into. Including workers.

10xDev•16m ago
I remember when Poland colonised half the world.
t0lo•50m ago
Ironic.
helge9210•47m ago
Vacuuming working age population from Ukraine since 2014. Poland did everything right, while Ukrainian governments and businesses were smirking "What are you going to do?" during salary discussions.
draw_down•40m ago
Hmm, I think you’re not ever supposed to say anything negative about Ukraine.
mazurnification•28m ago
"What are you going to do" was a phrase you could hear in Poland as well in 90ties and early 2000th. What differentiated PL w/ UA in my opinion is 2 things:

1. Lack of oligarchy - which in fact was not obvious outcome and little bit of luck on our part and little bit of cultural zeitgeist of 90ties and 00ths. 2. No east-west dithering - PL knew right away to which economic and cultural sphere wanted to belong

kingstoned•47m ago
They have had good public education for the past decade or two and rank high in international student rankings. So, I would bet that high 'human capital' would be the cause here.
mdre•46m ago
And yet it's still not all roses in the actual everyday life given that we have higher prices than Germany (food, phones, computers) while earning 3x less. But it surely beats how we had it the 90s.
seidleroni•45m ago
Noah Smith had a good article about this in 2024 for those interested in reading more: https://www.noahpinion.blog/p/six-ideas-for-poland
FrustratedMonky•8m ago
I don't know much about Poland

Why was other comment flagged and dead???

choeger•45m ago
It certainly helps to be neighbor with an economically strong but demographically weak and overly beaurocratic country that hungers for eager, competent workers.
andix•10m ago
The Polish economy is not built on sending workers to Germany.
mothballed•44m ago
They're scared shirtless of communism and statism, have recent enough memory of why, and went full sail on classical liberal economics. It worked.
severino•12m ago
I'd also be a classical liberal if I were getting 1 out of 4 euros of the EU taxpayers.
Vaslo•10m ago
The rest of Europe would be also afraid if they didn’t have the nice cushy buffer of Ukraine and Poland to give them breathing room.
dzonga•44m ago
before Brexit - a decent number of polish people in the UK doing all types of work.

after Brexit - noticed polish engineers didn't want to be in the UK

alephnerd•43m ago
Tbf, SWE salaries are constant across much of Europe, so anyone who is working in CEE feels less of a pull to work in London as a line-level engineer for roughly the same salary as they'd get in Warsaw. Funnily enough, even Bangalore salaries [0] are catching up to Italy [1] and Romania [2].

As a founder, it's a different story though - London is hard to beat from an entrepreneurship and capital access standpoint aside from parts of the CEE with strong ties to to American VC due to diaspora ties.

Edit: can't reply

> dzonga

Completely agree. I've O-1'ed plenty of European and British founders. But London is better than the rest of Europe from a raising perspective, which shows how bad the situation is in the rest of the continent.

[0] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/greater...

[1] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/italy

[2] - https://www.levels.fyi/t/software-engineer/locations/romania

nikanj•39m ago
For the ~500 million people of the EU, moving to Frankfurt means taking a train there, moving to London is a whole headache of visas, permits and permissions.

Founder visas are generally suffering from a chicken-and-egg problem, where only a successful company can sponsor anyone

alephnerd•36m ago
Sure, but the entire VC and funding ecosystem that London has is nonexistent in much of the rest of Europe.

It's easier to raise rounds with better terms in London versus mainland Europe, aside from CEE where diaspora VCs in the US tend to step in to build the ecosystem.

But even then the entire ecosystem pales in comparison to the US.

steve1977•35m ago
> SWE salaries are constant across all of Europe

Sorry, but this is wrong. Cheaper labor is pretty much the only reason for nearshoring from more expensive European countries to places like Spain or Eastern Europe.

alephnerd•33m ago
As I've mentioned before, I've had intimate experience hiring across Europe and at the 75th percentile and above, the salaries tend to be extremely close when comparing Western Europe and CEE. The difference becomes attitude.

A German SWE wants a 9-5. A Czech or Romanian SWE wants to build the next JetBrains or UIPath.

I don't want to hire the former - they're useless and a headache. I want to hire the latter.

cowboy_henk•6m ago
Pretty sure salaries at large tech companies are way higher in places like London, Zurich or Amsterdam than in Warsaw or Prague for example. Berlin may be closer to the eastern countries.

It might help to discuss actual ranges instead of "intimate experience" so we can tell if your experience matches reality.

Squarex•32m ago
The taxation is not though. It may be better working from Warsaw or Prague due to tax rules. In Czechia it's a sort of fake, but tolerated consultancy and self employment and I have heard there is a similiar status in Poland.
alephnerd•30m ago
The biggest drivers for tech employment in the CEE aren't those consultancies but American and non-European FDI.

Edit: can't reply

> Having 10-20% tax rate really helps though to have comparable or better pay rate to western europe with about 50% tax rate

At the employer end, if we offer enough FDI Western European governments do try to match support and subsidies that we could get in CEE.

Additionally, when investing in USD and used to American prices, it's a rounding error.

The drive to the CEE was partially government driven, but is now entirely due to the domestic ecosystem - you aren't going to find talent with the right attitude (business minded and independent) in Western Europe anymore.

Squarex•28m ago
Having 10-20% tax rate really helps though to have comparable or better pay rate to western europe with about 50% tax rate.
dzonga•31m ago
but London VCs are poor quality compared to what you find in the States.

having had my run around with London VCs - poor terms, slow moving (btw this is at seed stage) - it's better to bootstrap unless you're in deep tech (which London VCs can help out)

bootstrap and either deal with US VCs once you have numbers to back you up - if you wanna redo & do the VC route.

HarHarVeryFunny•38m ago
Poland has been booming for a long time even before Brexit. I think it was a latent force just waiting to be set free by Perestroika and free market forces.

I'd travelled to Warsaw a few times maybe 20 or so years ago, and you could feel the vibrancy and energy in the air.

graemep•33m ago
Before and after Covid. It made a lot of people (in general - not thinking about Poles in particular) think about where they wanted to live. it was a pretty bad time to be away from home, family, etc.
throw0101c•28m ago
> before Brexit - a decent number of polish people in the UK doing all types of work.

The comedian Omid Djalili (a Brit of Iranian descent) had a number of "Polish plumber" skits:

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vppmzUZENfc

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P8mjzu0Runo

gib444•27m ago
God I miss Eastern European tradespeople.

British tradespeople in my experience are duplicitous, lazy, unmotivated, low quality, cocky and expensive.

juho_•44m ago
It's the Zabka economy.
H8crilA•28m ago
To explain the joke, a Żabka is like a 7-Eleven, but there is way more of them per unit of area. And they have more services in offer.
moi2388•43m ago
- Educated population

- Access to the EU market

- Cheap labour

- 250 billion in EU subsidies

jansan•39m ago
Also, the Poles who I talked to have the feeling like money is going into the right projects and corruption is relatively low. This is quite different if you talk to people from Bulgaria, for example.
wafflemaker•37m ago
Even if for many years the net value of EU subsidies is close to 0, many people claim that money is still better spent, because of checks and balances forced by the EU system.
lovegrenoble•33m ago
250 миллиардов субсидий ЕС
H8crilA•24m ago
EvroSoyuz is just a better offer, comrade. Don't hate the player, hate the game.

PS. Ever since the full scale war started I finally learned Cyrillic, and I must say - there is something nice about this alphabet (if you speak a Slavic language, of course). Sadly we don't have an official Cyrillic version of Polish, though, my compatriots would have their brains explode if someone promoted one.

mikrl•10m ago
A family member told me they knew of someone who once visited Poland from Yugoslavia and found, in their opinion, that Polish was a Slavic language perfectly suited to the Latin script.

But yes, transliterated Russian doesn’t look quite right- rather cumbersome- and I assume the same would hold true for a Polish Cyrillic.

retinaros•43m ago
french and german working class tax. and obviously great leadership to use EU and that money well to win. unlike france for instance that got outplayed by germany that itself got outplayed by their dear ally the USA and are now going into energy obsolescence.
6d6b73•34m ago
German working class is actually benefiting from this as Poland it one of their biggest importers now. And they are still benefiting from slave labor, stolen precious metals, and art they got during the WW2. Not to mention the Marshall Plan. They really can't be complaining.
12986-112•26m ago
German working class is displaced or has their salaries driven down by either Poles or Romanians working in Germany while their families live cheaply at home or by corporations moving factories to Poland and Romania.

You have no clue what you are talking about. I wonder why this sort of obnoxious reasoning always comes from Poles and never from Czech people for example.

bboozzoo•5m ago
I believe this is called competition, encouraged since the EU markets are open and freedom of migration is guaranteed. If it wasn't for those guys, you'll have migrant workers from Ukraine, or India or some other place. However, I suspect that before the Poles and Romanians came to DE, you already had quite a bit of migration from Spain, Italy and Turkey, isn't that right?
danr4•43m ago
Poland would've probably been my top relocation priority if it weren't for the atrocious air quality
mazurnification•38m ago
Try 3city (Gańsk-Sopot-Gdynia up north on Baltic). Definitely better air quality then in other places in Poland. Do not know how it compares to other European cities though.
cpfohl•24m ago
Subjective air quality is SO much better than it was in the early nineties though...

I definitely blame my difficulties with respiratory illnesses on living there as a kid...

ptdorf•42m ago
Educated AND motivated workforce will do the trick.

All the polish I know that work in IT enjoy handwork as well. They are hard workers.

olalonde•40m ago
Were they not educated and motivated before?
petesergeant•38m ago
Yes, but being occupied by Russia has not traditionally been a motor for growth
cpursley•14m ago
They weren’t occupied by Russia, but the USSR which was an authoritarian communist state. That entire economic system failed for a reason, and the Chinese were wise to pivot (and not try spreading its ideology by force).
yu3zhou4•37m ago
Poland was sort of occupied until 1989
vrganj•32m ago
Which, to be fair, laid the foundation for the well-educated part.

The Soviets really valued STEM. They also quite valued emancipating women.

Just for context, in the 60s, around 5% of chemistry PhDs in the US were women. In the Soviet Union, it was 40%! [0]

Of course, that doesn't excuse all the other things they did, but the amount of badass female engineers from Eastern Europe I had the honor of working with is a direct result of the pipeline the Soviets built.

[0] https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/soviet-russia-had-...

tomalbrc•30m ago
How come eastern germany does so poorly?
vrganj•25m ago
I think mostly due to the bungled reunification that was basically an asset-stripping followed by enormous brain drain.
pcrh•11m ago
Incomes in the former GDR are comparable to those of Poland. They still lag behind West Germany, however (as does Poland).
rft•10m ago
Without having firm data, I can see a few factors that are different. After the collapse of the GDR, it was easier for eastern Germans to move to west Germany than for Polish to move to a different country in the west. Mostly younger and educated people would have made that move, hampering future generations. With the Reunification also came the whole Treuhand issue which essentially sold off a good chunk of eastern Germany for pennies to western investors, because eastern investors had no capital. That meant the east lost out on the profits from its economy as they would accumulate in the west instead. Even today a large part of east German rentals are owned by western landlords or corporations. Then the industrial base of west Germany was setup far more for competing on the open world market with automotive companies in the NW (VW), SW (Daimler) and SE (BMW) plus the big industrial area Ruhrgebiet. So you naturally got an economic focus even after Reunification on the old BRD with the previous GDR requiring decades to hopefully catch up to the rest of the new country.
mireg•8m ago
Quite simple. They all left.
atwrk•6m ago
They don't if you mean STEM and emancipation, quite the opposite, actually (compared to West Germany).

In addition to the points of sibling comments, their respective starting posititions were drastically different: West Germany got the marshal plan, which benefitted their economy, the East had to pay reparations to the USSR, which meant whole factories, trains, even railroad tracks, all in all amounting to about a third of industrial capacity, were transferred to the USSR.

p_l•36m ago
Honestly, a lot of issues was that we needed to build up the necessary infrastructure in the first place.

And the transformation to market economy involved at least two periods of suicidal decisions in name of ideology that regressed the economy (by the same person, even)

LaGrange•35m ago
We were. And “hard workers” is code for “easily exploited.”

Anyway the trick to explosive growth as a country is who you trade with and how you count things. We now sell things to Germany instead of USSR, of course there’s “growth.” There’s also some very real growth, quite a bit of it - but I wouldn’t put one bit of care in a “top 20 biggest economies” ranking. NL is one of the biggest food exporters in the world because it sells mediocre tomatoes to Germany instead of selling rice to Brazil and food exports are counted in euros, not calories.

MyHonestOpinon•24m ago
Do you think the example of Poland is helping Ukraine resist and move towards the west?
mothballed•30m ago
Motivation requires incentive. Probably hard to do when you're a communist bureaucrat offering an extra potato.
Tabular-Iceberg•27m ago
And high IQ.

It boggles the mind that people can look at a country whose average inhabitant meets the objective criteria for being developmentally challenged and wonder why it is an economic basket case.

10xDev•19m ago
Those IQ charts look very different depending on who is doing the sampling. One of the famous ones is from a self described "scientific racist".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Lynn

tptacek•13m ago
My sibling comment understates the critique. There is no such thing as "average IQ". Countries don't IQ test representative samples of their population, so hucksters like Richard Lynn just make shit up and pull samples from mental institutions (where IQ tests are used, as they should be, as diagnostics).

This is a pretty simple and obvious observation. Have you ever been asked to take a proctored IQ test to help establish the "average IQ" of your own country? Presumably not. So why do people keep getting took by this silly idea that "average IQ per country" is a thing?

asdiovjdfi•6m ago
Possible conscripts are usually IQ tested in some way. If you have national consciption, then it would be a pretty good sample of the 18 year old male population.
Zigurd•23m ago
They have a strong reputation as hard-working. After the liberation of Eastern Europe, Polish crews were all over Eastern Europe doing everything from restoring historic town centers to quickly and reliably putting a fresh coat of paint on apartments.
zeafoamrun•20m ago
All the Polish engineers I've worked with have been top notch.
baal80spam•42m ago
Nit, but I don't think we're there anymore. We were there briefly around March, when this article was posted.
mrits•42m ago
They are trained for high earning jobs while willing to take a lot less. That has to help. Ukraine was on the same path.
comrade1234•36m ago
I spent some time in Poland for work about 10 years ago. I remember the cities being very expensive and chic - on par with Paris, Berlin, etc but when you got out of the cities (my project was in Bydgoszcz) it's a completely different world - poor, rundown, etc. would be curious how it is now and also where most of the Ukrainian refugees settled.
hn_throwaway_99•27m ago
That basically describes the US as well.
tanepiper•35m ago
7 years ago we got a Polish Hunting Spaniel, and did our first trip to Poland. Since then we've been back several times, and each time you really see the different - new and upgraded road, city buildings being renovated into new housing and commercial areas - also noticed the costs going up too.

But also you start to notice that definitely a lot of people who left Poland are coming back, and with that skills and new economic opportunities.

croes•35m ago
Related?

https://www.statista.com/chart/18794/net-contributors-to-eu-...

keiferski•33m ago
As an American that’s lived in Poland for the last decade:

- it was kind of inevitable once Poland stopped being oppressed by its neighbors. The USSR, Nazi Germany, the German Empire / Prussia, Austria, Imperial Russia, etc. have basically been dividing the country since the 1780s. Without these restrictions, Poland is a natural leader in its region purely on population alone.

- A general lack of ideological “mind viruses” that seem to plague the western world. Most Poles are pretty straightforward, common sense people. They might have opinions you don’t agree with but it’s not a country of extremists in any direction.

- the general openness to American culture and (over)work ethics. I think Poland probably looks more to America than it does any EU country, although this of course isn’t simple, especially lately. But in general it’s a pretty hardworking, business-open culture. My impression is that it’s much easier to operate a business here than say, Germany, Italy, or France.

- Something I need to read more about, but IIRC Poland dealt with its oligarch problems in a different way than Russia or Ukraine did post-USSR and so doesn’t really have this issue.

WarmWash•32m ago
Poland has somewhat of a culture of overworking, "kultura zapierdolu".
Ralfp•28m ago
Yup, a lot of older folk with ruined health here because they overworked to "build a wealth" that eventually didn't materialize, but who at same time are criticizing younger gens of not wanting to follow in their steps.
goalieca•30m ago
> A general lack of ideological “mind viruses” that seem to plague the western world. Most Poles are pretty straightforward, common sense people. They might have opinions you don’t agree with but it’s not a country of extremists in any direction.

I want to stray from the politics too much, but we definitely self-sabotage in canada. It's kind of an immature teenage angst to self-loathe to the point of punishing yourself all the time.

WarmWash•27m ago
Rage-bait media is both profitable and the masses will defend you as "fighting the good fight".

The mind virus actually makes you love the host.

smcl•24m ago
> A general lack of ideological “mind viruses”

Yeah when Poland banned abortion and declared a number of "LGBT free zones" a lot of Poles I know came here to Czech Republic

derektank•13m ago
> A general lack of ideological “mind viruses” that seem to plague the western world

Uhh, the Law and Justice party was packing the Polish Constitutional Court, filling the government with party loyalists, and placing restrictions on freedom of speech and assembly only a few years ago. I suppose veering close to a constitutional crisis isn’t ideological per se, but that framing doesn’t seem quite right

keiferski•10m ago
I mean more in the sense of the people themselves. PiS did some shady things for sure, but ultimately most of their supporters are just old conservative people. I would describe that as a fundamentally different thing from the cause-of-the-day ideology and its backlash movement that sweeps through Western countries every decade.

I wouldn’t describe PiS and its supporters as a dynamic cultural movement in the way MAGA is.

jansan•29m ago
Living only a good hour away from the Polish border I must say that this is really great for our region, too. When the income difference was higher, there was a lot of property crime (mostly cars, but also other things) originating from Poland. I went to a Polish village just at border once and you could feel the crime there. Young guys driving too expensive cars despite houses being run down, suspicious looks if you drive by with your German number plates. But that is over. If you go to Szczecin or Bydgoszcz you feel no wealth gap at all and I am happy that it turned out this way.
niemandhier•26m ago
I love the polish, but credit where credit is due:

„Poland is the largest beneficiary of EU funds 2014-2020, with one in four euro going to Poland“

https://www.gov.pl/web/funds-regional-policy/poland-at-the-f...

tossandthrow•24m ago
Yes, this is how European social welfare works. And it is fantastic! Because the entirety of the EU is benefitting from it. Polish people have larger spending power, interesting and safe places to visit, etc.

This is not a "present" given to Poland. This is ensuring a better life for all Europeans.

pavlov•15m ago
In the 1980s, EU money was flowing to Spain, Portugal and Greece. And people complained about that too.

But the result is inarguably positive. Those countries had only recently become democracies after decades of military dictatorships or otherwise unstable third-world style governments. Today they're the most dynamic economies in the EU in many respects, and their democracies are well established and functioning.

The EU doesn't get nearly enough credit for how it transformed the continent. People have forgotten how nearly all European countries were in a very bad shape after WWII. Fascists had remained in power in Spain and Portugal. Soviets were orchestrating communist takeovers in countries like Italy. It's a small miracle that the liberal democratic economic order won so quickly and decisively.

kspacewalk2•9m ago
I think this is the hidden reason why the American alt-right/far-right/MAGA/techbro types hate the EU with so much apoplectic rage. For all its problems, big-picture-like it actually works to gradually coalesce a huge rich continent with a bigger population than the US into something increasingly more coherent, and if it continues to work it will mean that the Western world now has two heavyweight leaders, not one. For people who tend to view the world as a giant zero-sum dominance competition, this is of course a big threat. One more big player = one more competitor.

(The techbros hate it for a different, if related, reason - they aren't nearly as successful at capturing regulators, astroturfing and controlling discourse, and otherwise taking charge of that second entity as they are with the hapless US federal government).

eowln•8m ago
So your measure for success is how people get to put a piece of paper in a box every four years whilst their issues get ignored.
Vaslo•11m ago
So you’re taking from others who earned it and give it someone that didn’t? Got it.
smallnix•9m ago
Yes, in the EU they call it 'sharing'
shimman•9m ago
This is what capitalists literally do with workers. It's not like capitalists are creating anything valuable, they're just leeches extracting wealth.

I rather have workers get the money than more corporate welfare.

andsoitis•3m ago
> It's not like capitalists are creating anything valuable,

Some capitalists create enormous value, some destroy it, some are essentially passive recipients of returns generated by others.

Capitalists provide real productive functions like capital allocation, risk-bearing, founding, governance, monitoring, etc.

wqaatwt•5m ago
As noted in the other comment Poland is not even getting that much money per capita, it’s just a fairly large country.

They are still getting half of what Belgium is getting and unlike the overwhelming majority of bureaucrats in Brussels Polish farmers actually produce something useful.

tossandthrow•3m ago
Money is a claim on future work - it only works if the system works.
keiferski•23m ago
Now compare that number to this number:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish_material_losses_during_...

And don’t forget the Partitions and The Deluge, too.

Crazy how people just like to pretend that wealth acquired before 1950 somehow just appeared there naturally.

ceejayoz•22m ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_rising_tide_lifts_all_boats
AtlasBarfed•21m ago
It's a first line buffer state against Putin.

Think of it as defense spending

otterz•6m ago
Buffer implies it's void of meaningful content. An unfair word to describe an industrialized nation and member of the top 20 largest economies.
po1nt•19m ago
If there was a correlation you would see the same trend in Slovakia, Hungary and such
realusername•15m ago
Slovakia growth wasn't doing too bad, for Hungary we know the reason why it's the poorest EU country, Orban stole everything.
riffraff•6m ago
Which you do, except they're a lot smaller than Poland.
toasty228•5m ago
Well, you do see the same trend in gdp per capita in Slovakia. The problem is that Poland has 30m more people.

https://georank.org/assets/img/charts/economy/poland/slovaki...

wqaatwt•4m ago
Per capita Slovakia and Hungary are getting way more than Poland so its the other way around if anything (of course the Baltics are a good counterpoint)
tryptophan•17m ago
There are many countries in the EU that get many more funds per person than Poland and have much worse outcomes.

Some moron always show up with the "but it was all the EU subsidies" talking point, which is quite frankly part of racist tropes of eastern Europeans being dumb and worse than westerners. Could you imagine them accomplishing anything on their own? That's ridiculous. It's us, the western saviors, who did this with our penny subsidies!

another-dave•9m ago
> Some moron always show up with the "but it was all the EU subsides" talking point, which is quite frankly part of racist tropes of eastern Europeans being dumb and worse than westerners. Could you imagine them accomplishing anything on their own? That's ridiculous. It's us, the western saviors, who did this with our penny subsidies!

Ireland were in a similar position for instance (received €40bn in EU subsidies in the first 45 years of membership; now a net contributor).

-mlv•17m ago
They're also the 3rd smallest net recipient of EU funds per capita:

https://i.imgur.com/VlRkDMy.png

wowoc•13m ago
Exactly. Which proves that people who keep saying that Poland's growth is only due to EU's money should finally stop.

Another argument: Poland's GDP had already been growing at a similar pace before it joined the EU (but after it got rid of communism).

luke5441•9m ago
The largest EU benefit is that it makes democratic and rule of law backsliding unlikely. So if you invest money in Poland you can be reasonably sure that it won't get stolen from you. Hungary was a demonstration that this works over the long term.
wowoc•6m ago
Yet you can see crowds of young anti-woke Germans on X claiming that Poland's been growing only because of their (i.e. the Germans') money.

Also, the reason you've given doesn't explain why it worked so much better for Poland than for Czechia, Slovakia and a few others.

mazurnification•5m ago
Yes - main benefit of EU is regulatory stabilization and open market. Ironically also this was working also before joining EU (most of the adjustment happening as requirement to join EU and implemented before joining).
riffraff•8m ago
But that's not really meaningful in a "largest economy" point of view.
joenot443•14m ago
Since you seem to be implying causality here, I would assume that the other major beneficiaries have enjoyed a similar period of growth?
William_BB•11m ago
This is such a bad take. I'm impressed how often this gets parroted online.

Next time, please check how many Poles left Poland for western EU since they joined.

pkfz•11m ago
No one can deny EU funds have helped, but putting credits only there is pure misinformation. Take a look at what part of GDP are EU funds and what is the size per capita. Hard work and open market were actually the biggest contributors to the development of Poland.
wswin•8m ago
You greatly overestimate its significance. The benefits are roughly 1% of the GDP. In 2023 Poland netted 8.2 bn€ [1]. The GDP was 751 bn€.

[1] https://www.pap.pl/en/news/poland-largest-recipient-eu-funds...

wslh•6m ago
Countries don't mechanically convert inputs into development. There are many examples of countries with large capital inflows and/or strong capabilities that still fail to become strong economies. Corruption is one of the major frictions that prevents those resources from translating into broad economic success.
jillesvangurp•2m ago
Think of it as an investment. The rest of the EU also benefits from their hard work, and economic prosperity. Other countries in the EU have also enjoyed economic growth and support over the years.

I'm old enough to remember internal borders with passport checks in Europe, before the wall fell and Poland was still on the other side of that. Nice to see them moving on from that.

Thanks to the EU free movement of people, I've now studied, worked and lived in four different countries. I know people all over Europe. I currently live in Germany. Germany benefits a lot from the EU. Yes it costs money. But there's trade, access to skilled labour, etc. as well. And if you look at Poland, it's what sits between Germany and Belarus & Ukraine. So, there's a strategic relevance as well. Poland doing fine is good for everyone else in the EU.

szmarczak•25m ago
> Kowalska works at the Poznan Supercomputing and Networking Center, which is developing the first artificial intelligence factory in Poland and integrating it with a quantum computer, one of 10 on the continent financed by a European Union program.

I don't think quantum computing currently is able to help in the AI industry, I don't think this is having any impact.

WIG20 is essentially 5 banks, 3 energy providers, clothing, small shops + Allegro + CD Projekt Red. I don't think any of this has major world impact.

kypro•21m ago
Polish people are some of the most pragmatic, straight-forward, hardworking and intelligent people on the planet in my opinion.

They have all the fundamental human-capital strengths of economies like Germany. It's really no surprise they're doing so well.

Sensible smart people working hard will get a lot done over time.

For what it's worth Poland is the only place I've ever visited where felt I could easily see myself living there. It doesn't surprise me that a lot of Poles are moving back.

elAhmo•18m ago
Two letter answer: EU
joenot443•12m ago
They recently joined the EU?
waffleiron•17m ago
Having studied in the Netherlands it was somewhat difficult finding a job (10 years ago), and my first job was in Poland at a large Pharma company. I started working there for a wage lower than Dutch minimum wage when I started, just to get an in into the industry.

There is a while set of jobs in Pharma that got moved to Warsaw and no longer available in NL/DE.

nopurpose•12m ago
1670 on Netflix was hilarious
greenavocado•6m ago
Prosperity is a curse. People are no longer having children in Poland. https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php...
FrustratedMonky•4m ago
In the United States, Red/Right leaning States typically receive more federal funding than Blue States. Red States get 'propped up'.

I bet a lot of people here criticizing that EU funding went to Poland are typically Right Leaning, and think they are making a some killer point about socialism, when back home they are also taking in the hand out money.

MaxPock•4m ago
They've done well for themselves for sure . 20 years ago, Poland was sending seasonal workers to the UK to pick tomatoes. Brexit largely won because of anti Eastern Europe immigration