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Apple, Intel have reached preliminary chip-making deal

https://www.reuters.com/business/apple-intel-have-reached-preliminary-chip-making-deal-wsj-reports-2026-05-08/
75•scrlk•1h ago

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torben-friis•41m ago
Wasn't the whole apple silicon thing about Intel being unable to keep up?

Is this maybe a way to expand the affordable neo line?

NetMageSCW•40m ago
It was about x64 being unable to keep up - independent of Intel’s Fab capabilities which have improved lately.

Also, the NEO line uses cutting edge technology that is necessary for the iPhone SOC, so this is probably for other chips.

tambourine_man•20m ago
Intel has been deemed a national security asset. Essential infrastructure.

The government (both current and previous administration) is doing everything it can to make sure they do keep up, at the very least. And with enough money being thrown at it, they probably will.

NetMageSCW•41m ago
Paywall
JoshTriplett•38m ago
Seemed to load just fine here.
Simulacra•35m ago
I am also getting a paywall. Subscribe to read more.
xiaoyu2006•35m ago
Reuters usually don't have paywalls, and neither I am experience one here.
addaon•29m ago
I believe that both of those statements are true. Nonetheless, I and other posters are experiencing one here and can't read the article. Your valid anecdote does not help us.
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xnx•34m ago
Would love to see this mean the return of Bootcamp, but that's probably gone forever.
vsgherzi•29m ago
Boot camp is a windows problem. This can be done today on apple silicon but Microsoft dosent want to go through the effort to support it.
bpoyner•15m ago
I imagine it would be a big lift. Asahi linux is managing through reverse engineering the hardware support, without any official documentation. Even with official documentation it would be a significant change from other aarch64 hardware.
riffic•31m ago
another triumph for x86
ion1c•28m ago
This is a fab deal, nothing to do with x86
01100011•27m ago
> The Journal report said that the U.S. government, which became Intel's largest shareholder last year under a deal with its CEO Lip-Bu Tan, played a major role in bringing Apple to the negotiating table.

Ah, so this wasn't a decision Apple freely made based on technical merits. Instead it sounds more like big government and a fancy stock manipulation scheme.

My guess, Apple drags their feet for a couple years and bails after Trump leaves office(or is significantly weakened after the midterms).

oaiey•20m ago
Or use it to de-risk their supply chain.
gavinsyancey•26m ago
Is this Intel Foundry Services fabbing apple-designed chips, or Apple using Intel-designed chips in their products? I would assume the former but don't see where in the article it says either way.
tantalor•19m ago
Apple designed chips, manufactured by Intel.
tambourine_man•18m ago
Former, for sure
saltcured•16m ago
How many more economic cycles until Intel is asking Apple to fab Intel-designed chips?
whynotminot•15m ago
Big deal, smart for all parties, really. Apple standards will make Intel step up and become a better foundry partner.

Apple will gain increasingly needed diversification.

US supply chain gets a boost.

Should be fine for TSMC in the short to medium term. Apple not going to risk actual mainline iPhone SoC on Intel any time soon, so lion share of TSMC Apple revenue will be fine.

rvz•9m ago
Intel was not "allowed" to fail. (But Spirit Airlines was) and now the stock is at an all time high.

It was only 9 months ago [0] that almost everyone here was bearish (not me [1]). Now it is the opposite.

Next we will here some folks wishing they should have joined Intel when it was $20 a share.

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44675965

[1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44676641

jauntywundrkind•7m ago
Intel seems far & away the best at chiplet right now. Foveros, EIMB, etc, and possible Z-Angle next... Intel seems way ahead. They're trying to get to 12x reticle size in 2028, and doing it super smartly (eimb). https://bsky.app/profile/ogawa-tadashi.bsky.social/post/3mld...

That alone is a strong reason for Apple to show up. Apple has some pretty wild patents on chiplet System-on-Chip designs! https://bsky.app/profile/ogawa-tadashi.bsky.social/post/3mi7...

ahartmetz•4m ago
This is really nice for competition in semiconductor manufacturing. The TSMC quasi-monopoly (with Samsung fabs slightly lagging) and limited capacity is not good for the market. Owning leading edge fabs might also help Intel to keep up the competition in the x86 market. Intel is the underdog now!

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