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Getting Arrested in Japan

https://sundaicity.com/blogs/getting-arrested-in-japan
58•bane•1h ago

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tardedmeme•23m ago
Sounds almost like a fascist dictatorship!
Onavo•20m ago
They are hardly an exception in that region, it's always been that way.
dakolli•17m ago
Japan is a fascist country, always has been, they just revamped their marketing to be less apparent after WW2.
burgerone•12m ago
We're just going to call more and more things faschist until the word has lost all its meaning
tekla•9m ago
It's already lost all meaning.
gruez•5m ago
At this point it's just a synonym for "authoritarian".
eowln•21m ago
>Something as small as getting into a heated argument in public, accidentally taking an item you didn’t pay for, overstaying a visa, or even grabbing someone else’s umbrella or bike thinking it was yours can escalate further than you could imagine and have you arrested before you’ve even had a chance to explain.

Damn, I want to move to Japan now.

xyzelement•13m ago
Seriously. Japan is wonderful because they don't tolerate badness. As of this moment yours is the only comment that recognizes it.
c-c-c-c-c•10m ago
There’s loads of drugs in tokyo and ample opportunities to get robbed or beaten up every day of the week and the police doesn’t give one crap as long as they only target foreigners.

Fucked up country I wish for the people to be free one day from their current fascist leaders.

yieldcrv•7m ago
playground for westerners
ToValueFunfetti•6m ago
I guess putting innocent people in miserable conditions for extended periods doesn't count as tolerating badness, technically.
niek_pas•6m ago
And I’m sure the boundary on what constitutes ‘badness’ is something everyone can agree on!
metacritic12•9m ago
"Accidentally taking someone's bike thinking it was your"

How often does this actually happen in reality versus it being trotted out as a backstory after being caught?

HPMOR•18m ago
Holy shit this is horrible. It really shows the true cost of having a disciplined public society. People love to hate on SF, and the homelessness. But I think it’s a society that prioritizes individual freedom which allows for both this outcome and the entrepreneurial environment we see.
xyzelement•14m ago
You are not supposed to be in jail, and you are not supposed to enjoy it if you are. It makes sense to optimize society for law obiding people.
HPMOR•10m ago
Sorry, I think you mean abiding*. But laws are not some moral edicts handed down by god. They can and often are wrong or seriously misguided. Laws can and should be broken if and only if the agent at hand has a thorough understanding of why they are violating the law. Breaking a law and antisocial behavior are not necessarily equivalent.
Gigachad•12m ago
None of this post seemed like necessary costs. You can arrest criminals while allowing more than one shower per 5 days, along with all the other absurd rules and restrictions here.
drunner•9m ago
You think our prison system is much better? I mean hell, we're currently shipping people off to prison camps in other countries without due process.
metalcrow•16m ago
This sounds bad enough that it makes me wonder what the punishment for breaking the rules in jail is. If you can't sleep in a certain direction, what are they going to do if you refuse to obey? Or even can't obey because you don't speak Japanese?
c-c-c-c-c•9m ago
They tickle you until you roll over.
ktallett•13m ago
There is nothing about Japan that suggests otherwise. One example being whether you agree with capital punishment or not, their method of never giving you advance notice is torture, for both the prisoner and their family.
metacritic12•12m ago
Seems like it's not pleasant, and the author says in theory it could be as low of a bar as getting into a heated argument; but the author never discloses his actual charge, which I think is critical context.

If he stabbed someone and got this treatment, it would be very different than if he had a loud but normal argument you might see in any big box store in the US.

That he doesn't go on to protest why he got locked up makes me think it was something more serious.

Some time ago (can't easily find it anymore) there was a expose on UK prisons, which was interesting without even knowing what crime the prisoner was convicted of, but turns out it was abuse of a relative.

actionfromafar•10m ago
Arrested not convicted.
amarant•6m ago
Japan has a conviction rate of 99.8%. arrested and convicted is pretty much the same thing over there

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criminal_justice_system_of_Jap...

disillusioned•7m ago
They _do_ specifically protest, and it's crazy that they're able to detain you like this from an accusation while they build a case, even if you're innocent. In the US, barring flight risks and past history or cases of real malice or violence or an ongoing threat, you can at least typically make bail, AND the conditions in a jail are generally far better and less strict than this:

>Both cases were ultimately dropped and the second arrest was essentially tied to the first and shouldn’t have even been possible. But because of how the system works weather it’s a viable reason or not, they can still trap you in there for a time while the case is being reviewed. I met others who where there for shorter and much longer periods of time. The worst part was knowing i was innocent. After it’s all said and done you walk out and they act as if nothing happened. Not only was this was all extremely traumatizing but it cost me a HUGE of money that I really did not have and caused irreversible damage to my life.

applfanboysbgon•6m ago
> Language barrier: Forced to communicate only in Japanese

The arrogance of American tourists is truly boundless. How dare Japanese people not speak English! Who do they think they are?

  > Food: Small, plain  AWFUL meals with no choices, no snacks, nothing extra

  > Sleep disruption: Bright lights, strict schedules, constant noise, uncomfortable bedding, never being fully rested

  > Mental exhaustion: Long, empty days with nothing to do but sit and wait to be interrogated or yelled at for something

  > Strict control: Every action, movement, posture, and word

  > No stimulation: No phone, no music, no distractions, nothing to escape into

  > Relentless routine: The same long, repetitive days over and over with no break

  > Your life outside being disrupted: Missing work, bills, family, friends, events, pets etc. The world going on while you’re stuck in here.
The article explicitly goes out of the way to contrast the Japanese system with the US system, but I think you'll find that you're not given a phone or 5-star cuisine in American jails, either.

> In contrast, in the United States, people are typically taken to a local jail, see a judge within a couple of days, and are informed of their charges quickly.

A google search will reveal that extended detention happens all the time in the US. Random news article:

https://atlanta.capitalbnews.org/fani-willis-fulton-jail-bud...

"Capital B Atlanta received updated data from the Sheriff’s office June 6 showing there are currently 962 unindicted people in Fulton County jail and 263 have been incarcerated for more than 90 days.."

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