Oreshnik alone could decapitate the EU in under 30 minutes.
Spoiler: it's absolutely useless. Russia does have great weapons that CAN hurt a lot, but Oreshnik is not one of them.
Which means there's an intermediate step: carrying out an above ground nuclear test. This obviously violates the Test Ban Treaty, but is a lower step than just blowing away Kyiv.
Ukraine has long decided that they will not be deterred by the threat of nuclear bombs. They seem to be determined to win back the territory that they have lost or at least put themselves into a better bargaining position.
And territorial expansion and conquest of neighboring countries is Russia's MO, not Ukraine's.
There's a strong case that they didn't even defeat the nazis, that was done by the Soviets.
With Lend-Lease equipment. No matter what way you cut it, multiple nations defeated the Nazis together.
The Soviet Union defeated the Nazis with US materiel. Without that, they probably don't get it done.
And even if what you said were true, the US still should have supported Ukraine more than it did, and should do so now.
First Biden's timidity and dithering over arms, which looks ridiculous today and led to so much needless difficulty and suffering for Ukraine. And then Trump, quite clearly favouring Putin and (obscenely) shaking down Ukraine at its most vulnerable point with the 'mineral deal'.
It's hard to imagine any earlier US administration not backing Ukraine to the hilt - pouring in advanced arms, strangling Russia with much harder sanctions, maybe even patrolling the skies of western Ukraine. The chance to take down the worst sort of nationalist tyrant, and one of the world's nastiest troublemakers? And one of the USA's longest standing enemy countries to boot? What President before these last two wouldn't have jumped at it?
This isn't hyperbole. The US has descended to being a corrupt, busted idiocracy that is engaging in wanton piracy and terrorism, and there is zero indication this will change. It crosses both sides of the aisle, and Americans have decided this is ay okay. This can't simply be waited out.
Ukraine is innovative, capable and brave.
And a number of NATO members need to rapidly become nuclear capable, understanding that some of those weapons need to be aimed at former allies.
I don't think we should cheer the end of non-proliferation in the long run.
There are a dozen+ nuclear capable -- almost overnight -- nations, for whom the inputs have dramatically and irreversibly changed. These nations will, with utter certainty, go from non-nuclear one day to nuclear-armed the next.
What gives you this impression?
Like so many other situations, we have to wait for him to die.
that didn’t even exist when the comment you’re replying to was posted.
So…
Find something better to do.
I’m going to.
Now to be clear I'm completely opposed to the war in Ukraine, and I'm quite happy to see Russia getting pushed back. My hope would be that Ukraine takes back all of its remaining territory. But, I think there are at least some justifications that could have made sense for someone who thought the war would be easy, and who did not care about the human cost either side would bear.
giuliomagnifico•1h ago