Having an AIO installer is a nice thing. On Windows, the Microsoft recommended way is the install-docker-ce.ps1 script without an ability to do an actual upgrade other than with full uninstall/reinstall.
chemodax•19m ago
Maybe an unpopular opinion, but I am missing the old Microsoft these days. How did we end up in the world where technologies like Windows Installer are replaced with PowerShell scripts that downloads software from the Internet?
rinrab•15m ago
Haha, I might have written almost the same thing but late by 2 minutes :)
rinrab•11m ago
What has changed since these days of Microsoft? I’m pretty sure when it came to setting up complicated systems, you had to follow a 158 pages document with all dialogs you had to click to (if you’re lucky enough to have a document like this)
In this sense a predictable powershell script is IMO an improvement
chemodax•6m ago
May be it's a fashion? Like using Electron/Edge for Start Menu.
akotti•8m ago
Writing a script has always been simpler than making a proper installer, because you need to adhere to various transactional rules, implement a proper rollback mechanism, worry about making your components have correct keys that still work after an upgrade. And e.g. if you need to install a Windows service, most of the standard options (even those provided by Wix) don't cover all cases out of the box. So to some extent using a script means replacing a more complex, but complete solution with an ad-hoc thing that may work in general, but fails a lot of corner cases.
chemodax•49s ago
One quite convenient thing is that Windows Installer packages can be installed via Group Policy, making deployment for new nodes work like a charm. How is a sysadmin supposed do this with scripts?
rinrab•16m ago
I personally don’t understand overall situation of software development that we ended up at. Why do we need third parties to package software products? I think it’s made so complicated for devs when you have to take care of million different platforms and each of them makes it so painful to package for.
akotti•28m ago
chemodax•19m ago
rinrab•15m ago
rinrab•11m ago
In this sense a predictable powershell script is IMO an improvement
chemodax•6m ago
akotti•8m ago
chemodax•49s ago
rinrab•16m ago