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I'm Tired of Talking to AI

https://orchidfiles.com/im-tired-of-ai-generated-answers/
102•theorchid•51m ago

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alex_x•27m ago
thinking becomes a commodity
Jgrubb•24m ago
I think actual thinking is now more valuable than ever.
voidfunc•18m ago
Depends if you can find someone to buy that line of thinking. Theres only a market if someone recognizes one.
simondotau•23m ago
”You can outsource your thinking, but you can’t outsource your understanding” — probably some AI
alex_x•15m ago
I also wonder if this is so visible because a lot of people don't really care what they do and will happily use any bullshit machine to simulate work.
mschuster91•5m ago
Let's be real. Our economies are in the gutters and an insane amount of "work" is actually textbook "bullshit jobs".

However, we as a society aren't nearly ready to actually hold a conversation about that. We could probably eliminate half of all non-hands-on (i.e. a human uses their hands to manufacture a thing) employment in a matter of a year or two if we would embrace computers and digital infrastructure and give lower levels of employees more authority - and that's before AI even enters the picture. Government services are a prime example - a lot of "e government" services in Germany aren't truly digital, they generate a PDF that is printed out in some clerk's office and processed manually by copying information from that PDF into some admin program.

But unfortunately, if we were to do that, we'd run into riots faster than we could imagine. We aren't ready for a society in which we still have a small base of people that have to, literally, work (with their bodies) to keep society alive while the rest does not need to work any more.

torben-friis•13m ago
Was it Sam Altman, who said that they intent exactly that? To offer intelligence as a service?

I trust myself to be hard headed enough to keep my intelligence from atrophy, but it's going to suck living in a society where most people don't (or who never developed it at all).

The other day I was at the theatre and I overheard the people next to me glad that they had the best tickets because chatgpt had advised what to buy. The big tip was choosing something centered rather than very angled. Sigh.

EarthIsHome•26m ago
Nearly half of online articles are now AI-generated. [0]

[0]: https://graphite.io/five-percent/ai-now-writes-as-many-onlin...

embedding-shape•24m ago
> We build on our prior research by using three different AI detectors (Pangram, GPTZero, Copyleaks). We independently evaluate each to show that the false positive rates and average false negative rates are consistently below 2%. Each AI detector shows a similar trend.

This is all bullshit, none of those actually work, and the false-positives rates are sky-high. I'm not sure how any serious person have tried out any of those services and came away with the impression of "Well, better than nothing" because literally, it seems the opposite.

tidewinner•16m ago
Are you an AI agent trying to gaslight us?
embedding-shape•13m ago
Just a boring old organic human tired of other organic beings falling for obvious bullshit most likely made up by machines convincing humans with something like "you really have a neat idea here, the world will appreciate you making this into a product".
lelandfe•16m ago
So if these do not work, to what do you attribute the rising positive rate?
embedding-shape•10m ago
Humans writing more like LLMs, just like new LLMs write more like humans, it's all coalescing into one.

I've copied-pasted comments I made on HN from like 2020 and had it tell me it's "100% AI". I've seen examples where the services claim "100% AI" because there was no normal dashes, only em-dashes. Even have a recent example from HN itself: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48165690

> This reads very AI. Pangram [0] agrees [1]. [0] Not perfect, but I think as good evidence as any: https://arxiv.org/pdf/2501.15654 [1] https://www.pangram.com/history/44cd07d3-ba94-4331-8c7f-a626...

Said Pangram report literally citing the single evidence of em-dashes...

dgellow•10m ago
The detectors aren’t great but they aren’t really the issue. The fact that LLMs make it so easy to impersonate human communication is precisely the problem here. There cannot be a reliable way to identify if something is from a human or not. And the ease of access and low price makes using LLM generated content a no brainer, you have to actively go out of your way to produce human generated content.

We are building a future where human contact will be scarce

embedding-shape•8m ago
> We are building a future where human contact will be scarce

Yes, until you remember there is a world outside of the screen, where people build things with their hands, use their physically to play instruments for others, paint beautiful things for others to see physically and so much more.

"Humanness" online been dead for decades already, if you want humanness you need to step outside, or at least invite other humans home.

My_Name•6m ago
If you need an AI detector to figure out if something is AI or not, surely that means the AI is so good that there is no need to detect whether it is AI or not, because it is indistinguishable from writings by a human when read by humans?
sharperguy•24m ago
I imagine something like 98% of articles also get less than 100 views. So the question is more about the articles you're reading rather than articles in general.
sibidharan•8m ago
If one cant remember what they generated, whats the point in generating? Half of those who write articles do not remember what the AI put in it... Reviewing has become a slop work by humans!
epolanski•14m ago
I'd say even half of my Youtube feed nowadays is.

1. Find some nicher but interesting topic (e.g. some historical event like Lepanto's battle)

2. Have AI generate the content of the 20 minutes video by collecting information about it online

3. Have AI generate the video

4. Have AI generate a realistic voice to comment on the video

5. Upload it without mentioning it's all AI generated

6. Have me get mad 4 minutes into the video because footage/paintings referring to that battle...do not exist at all...slowly realize it was all AI generated

fleebee•5m ago
The YouTube algorithm got unbearable to me even before the mudslide of AI content.

I highly recommend using an extension like Unhook and disabling all algorithmic recommendations such as the Home feed, sidebar/endscreen recommendations etc. The only way I interface with YouTube now is through the subscriptions page which shows me videos from creators I follow in chronological order.

outime•26m ago
>I’m tired of talking to AI.

>I want to talk to real people.

Good luck with that while on the internet - that's only going to get worse. The bright side is that this may make all of us touch grass more often.

mrweasel•14m ago
The internet isn't going to die out, but it feels like it's becoming a place where you go to do a specific task and then you check out again.

One interesting observation from myself: I don't "browse" the internet anymore. I go read specific sites, order something, or do some task. So my internet usage is way down, but I also don't watch a lot of TV or streaming content anymore, because I can't really deal with it. There's to much of it, the acting is bad, the writing is bad, everything is just a rehash (Cinematography is beautiful though). So now I just read, preferably books written before the year 2000.

untitled-now•25m ago
Talking to AI can be useful , but depends on how one uses it :)
phoronixrly•24m ago
Thanks, if I want to talk to an LLM I will do so specifically.
specproc•23m ago
The article, if you'd read it, was about receiving the same response to a technical question from multiple sources, whilst seeking human assistance with a problem AI hadn't been able to solve.
niekiepriekie•15m ago
“Stop changing my code you st*d piece of s*t. And stop pushing that youtube garbage like i’m some 5 year old” - me against gemini. But he, helps with my anger management.
hypfer•12m ago
Being able to just bluntly tell it in very colorful language that its neurotic cargo-culting phobia of imaginary things is something that needs to stop is such a breath of fresh air after the dark ages of 2017.
eliotthbyrnes•21m ago
Hot take - who still actually uses the actual chat features for general conversation in the dev community?
hootz•17m ago
How do you define general conversation? I have used the Gemini web chat yesterday to review and generate a report about multiple credit card statements.
RugnirViking•6m ago
depends what you mean. I regularly ask it to explain stuff, terminology I don't recognize etc. I also ask it about neat things it did, terminal commands etc so I can do them when I want to. That's chat in some sense, no? its not all "write this code"
mrweasel•19m ago
For something like customer service, I can understand why an AI would be deploy, not that I think it should, but why are so many running things like Reddit bots?

A few bots here and there for experimentation, sure, but as someone else pointed out, almost half of everything online is now AI generated. To some extend if it's not worth spending a persons time producing, I don't think whatever it is that you generated needs to exist.

cedws•15m ago
There’s more mass manipulation AKA nudge campaigns going on than ever. Plus, there’s a market for “aged” (forgot the term they actually used) accounts that look authentic.
mrweasel•10m ago
Are you suggesting that people have bots answering question on place like AskReddit in an effort to nudge society in a certain direction? That would explain why much of Reddit, Instagram and Facebook is so completely unhinged, but that is just a wild way of influencing the world, and to what end?
philipwhiuk•7m ago
> and to what end?

Anarchism / destabilisation.

mapontosevenths•11m ago
I think some of them are actually run by Reddit directly. They couldn't find any way to keep making 'line go up', so they decided they could sumulate growth by machine translating Indian users to English and vice versa.

I think they're translating between users transparently to make it look like it's not a ghost town, and the machine translation reads like bot text.

I could be wrong, it's just a guess.

t_macc•19m ago
I'm tired of talking ABOUT AI.
hamburgererror•7m ago
Does AI talk about us?
p2detar•17m ago
> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer. I replied that it had nothing to do with my question and everything there was wrong. A minute later he sent me another ChatGPT screenshot. He didn’t even read the AI’s answer.

That's just rude and borderline psychotic behavior.

It's still a bit better at my workplace but irritating nonetheless - my boss would "research" a feature and prep notes in our wiki with some gemini chatbot exchanges attached. This is a of course no specification, but it's supposed to be a good base point to start working on the feature. Gemini already chose the coding libraries and concepts, so to the outsider it just seems like all that's needed is to code that into the product. Of course, it's not that simple and it mostly gets in the way rather than help. But now questions arise why is the feature not ready yet, when "the plan" is already there and so obvious.

hamburgererror•17m ago
Face reality my friend, Internet is now hostile to humans. Time to leave this place for good.
ccozan•11m ago
Yes and then we refuge in the physical meat space until the robots would be indistiguishing from humans.

Sounds like a movie plot, or is Bladerunner all over.

xen_relay•17m ago
A bit off topic, but I am currently travelling through Europe by train. It is such a boon to just be outside everyday and meet locals and fellow travellers. Highly recommend.
Invictus0•11m ago
I am also traveling through Europe, currently in Budapest. Twice now in the last week, I have heard AI music being played through the speakers at restaurants.
Cthulhu_•7m ago
That's probably to be expected, before that they used covers of popular songs, likely produced by a company that offers much lower rates than e.g. the original artists.

I prefer silence over that tbh.

kingkongjaffa•5m ago
AI K-pop was in the cafes in Seoul.
dgellow•7m ago
Hope the heat doesn’t impact your travel plans too much. Feel free to reach out if you’re around Hamburg, always happy to meet HNers
hypfer•14m ago
AI has "just" greatly accelerated/amplified dysfunction that was already there previously.

Even before AI, you often weren't truly talking with other real people on the web. Even if it was an actual human that responded, online tribalism led to erasure of said human-ness.

So from that standpoint, being exhausted by not talking to real humans might be good or at least necessary.

CachedaCodes•14m ago
I think using AI to help you write or rewrite something you want to convey is fine, the difference is using it as a replacement of thinking instead of a tool.

The screenshots part is crazy.

sibidharan•13m ago
AI made writing cheap, but it's a human thing to validate, research and respond! It's human slop! Not AI slop!
tfrancisl•13m ago
> I worked as a developer at a company. I asked the business owner a question about a business task. He sent me a ChatGPT screenshot with the answer.

Something similar to this happened in a "public" chat space at my company, and, despite the fact that we are leaning into LLMs and agentic workflows quite a bit, the responses were generally "I aint reading all that" and "hey, dude, thats kinda unprofessional."

We should be shaming people who attempt to outsource all of their thinking to chatbots or agents. I think it would be effective.

tidewinner•13m ago
At my company this behaviour is celebrated
hn111•12m ago
You can send them this: https://noslopgrenade.com
Cthulhu_•6m ago
If it wasn't essential, I'd tell them to talk to me like a human or else I'd just quit the conversation entirely. Boundaries and stuff.
epolanski•6m ago
I understand that example, on the other hand, RTFM is as old as history and it can often be replaced by googling or asking LLMs.

Not saying that's the very specific case, but I regularly encounter in my daily life at work people delegating the kind of information seeking that can be done

lizknope•13m ago
I'm tired of talking to people telling them to stop talking to an AI

AI generated slop has exploded across reddit. Last year I would see about 1 obvious AI generated post and report it. Today I've already reported 5 posts and it is 7am here.

The posts are some technical topic but there isn't even really a question in the post and then it ends with "thoughts about this?" and people try to clarify with the OP what the question is.

I reply to them to stop wasting their time because it is a bot. Sometimes there are 20 comments and nothing from the OP bot. Sometimes the OP bot says "Interesting, thanks" but never any real followup question.

We had this discussion 3 weeks ago "AI Slop is Killing Online Communities"

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48053203

pelagicAustral•13m ago
I'm not tired to talking to AI because I specifically instructed my agents to channel Alec Baldwin in Glengary Glen Ross, so i constantly reminded that coffee is for closers only.
chaosprint•13m ago
Using AI to learn objective things is acceptable. However, as long as it's combined with your own experience, because AI can't possibly understand your entire world, any subjective answers will be disgusting, disastrous, obsequious, and boring.
datakan•11m ago
I feel the same as the article author. Worse, every Diary/Journaling app is now including AI, so the place where original thoughts are supposed to be written for posterity is now also AI generated slop. I've canceled subscriptions because of it.
thunfischtoast•11m ago
AI makes it apparent that the only value some people bring to the table is that they have access to information that you do not. If now they fold that one advantage by just delegating everything to AI (which is in the same position as you informationwise), they will remove themselves from the worker pool soon.
Invictus0•9m ago
Get a grip! If you want to talk to a human then pickup the phone or go meet them in person
wateralien•9m ago
One of the most amazing things happened during the day long power cut in 2025 in Spain and Portugal... eventually the cell towers went down and everyone just went to the parks and socialised. Connected with friends, strangers. Everyone was so in the moment because there was nowhere else to be, nothing else to distract them. People would pick up their phone and realise there was nothing there for them and put it back down and continue chatting. People were present in a way I've never seen in these places before. It was pretty magical.
kh_hk•9m ago
In Neal Stephenson's fall or dodge in hell there's a timeline where the internet is so flooded by fake AI generated news that characters have their own agent both filtering info and maintaining their fake social presence.

The book in particular is of a debatable quality but I keep going back to those introductory chapters as prophetic the more we go into this.

torben-friis•7m ago
>But even when I talk to people, they forward my questions to AI and send me the AI’s answer.

This is the killer issue.

It's so profoundly saddenning, it feels like watching an adult being asked a question and calling mom to answer for them. There is something deeply disturbing in it that makes me feel I'm not talking to a self sufficient entity.

maciejzj•5m ago
I've recently been connecting some machines to a new switch and my colleague has been monitoring web logs at the same time using Claude. He send me a Claude-generated observation that the machines that I was able to put my hands on simultaneously must be in different buildings due to high pings. Surreal experience.

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