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1•patethegreat•28m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

New York just passed a one-year temporary ban on data centers

https://scienceaim.com/new-york-just-passed-a-one-year-temporary-ban-on-data-centers/
55•binarymax•1h ago

Comments

binarymax•1h ago
I submitted this link, which is clearly written by an LLM but has a good overview. Here's the actual bill: https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S10642
OutOfHere•31m ago
The submitted link is not even loading. Meanwhile, here are two independent LLM generated "news" article generated from the Assembly and Senate bills respectively:

https://gist.github.com/impredicative/483b46ff294be6b69b0a34...

binarymax•29m ago
HN hug of death :)

@dang can we change the URL to the bill link please?

wizzwizz4•18m ago
Contrary to popular belief, dang doesn't get notified when you write "@dang". Consider emailing hn@ycombinator.com instead.
defmetrix•1h ago
I want to continue to build data centers, but I dont really want one in my back yard either. But New York seems to be hurting itself lately, the states job growth has slowed over the past few years. This reminds me of them canceling the Amazon HQ.
thinkingtoilet•53m ago
So other people's back yards it is! What a wonderful philosophy.

As for Amazon HQ, I don't know what NY's deal was but I was in Boston when it was a consideration and the amount of tax breaks they wanted was insane and would have been a huge net loss for the city. I'm very glad it wasn't moved there. It doesn't matter if you create a few thousand jobs if you get literal billions in tax breaks, it's a net loss for the state.

sincerely•39m ago
Well there are plenty of places that aren’t in anyone’s backyard
beart•31m ago
"Backyard" is obviously not to be taken literally. Anywhere you put one of these things is going to have an impact on the region. But perhaps you can provide some examples of places that are not in anyone's backyard?
alpha_squared•39m ago
If I remember correctly, reporting at the time just after DC was selected was suggesting that it was always going to be DC to be in close proximity to government and that the whole fiasco was a way to extract as many concessions as possible from the city in its efforts to "compete" for the new offices. What even is an "HQ" if the actual headquarters that disproportionately houses more office workers than anywhere else is still in Seattle?
nazgulsenpai•1h ago
I clicked the article expecting to see some feel-good political grandstanding (I'm a bit cynical these days) but honestly, this seems like a decent approach. Pause approvals for a year giving breathing room for researching the impacts, and hopefully address them.
declan_roberts•14m ago
Are data centers a new and mysterious technology?
babypuncher•11m ago
The mad rush to build datacenters at this unprecedented scale is already wreaking havoc on the consumer economy. The needs of everyday people are far more important than the whims of a few trillion dollar tech companies run by billioinaires.
throwaway198846•9m ago
These are not new or unpredictable impacts.
kube-system•7m ago
The scale is new, and impacts are predictable, thus the moratorium.
fintechjock•6m ago
How are they harming consumers?

I would think that consumers would vastly benefit from cheaper software, nearly unlimited cloud storage, lower property taxes. Heck, the next generation of data centers are looking like they will actually be net energy producers.

Consumers might not know that they benefit from data centers, but that doesn’t mean that they don’t

CodingJeebus•47m ago
Glad to see this, the rate at which these developments have been getting approved clearly isn't sustainable and developers have a major incentive to getting projects locked in before regulators come in to change the laws around how data centers connect to the grid, which is almost certainly happening.
arjie•45m ago
Am I the only one who wants a datacenter in his backyard? I actually went down a little over a year ago to get a cabinet down at Hosting.com’s old location round the corner only to find that they’ve been gone from there (and the DC business) for a few years now and the new owners have kept it fallow. I have to drive down to Fremont for a similar price point now. I would gladly have paid 30% more to just go down the street in SF’s SOMA. Perhaps I should have considered Digital Realty’s facility down on Paul Ave but they’re harder to get a small system up on.

It does mean I try to make sure I get it right when I set up. But it also means that if I goofed some cable management then that’s it because I’m not going back to fix it till next time.

Something that would be cool for the future would be if luxury apartment buildings offered their own cabinets for the use of residents. Haha, a man can dream.

sgerenser•37m ago
It would be worth separating out the “traditional” data centers (which offer things like colocation, and mostly run pretty standard CPU-bound or network-bound workloads) from “AI” data centers (which have racks and racks of extremely dense GPUs or accelerators). It’s really the latter that people should be concerned about due to their much larger scale, higher power draw, and propensity to use dirty, on-site power generation.
cucumber3732842•12m ago
> higher power draw, and propensity to use dirty, on-site power generation.

It speaks volumes about the degree to which we've regulated and NIMBY'd and everything else'd utility build out that on site generation in any case other than a blackout so pencils out anywhere in the US save perhaps remote regions of Alaska

arjie•11m ago
I do have GPUs running there and I'd be running them denser if I'd already paid for the power. To be honest, there's no room on 3rd Street to put turbines next to the DC there so if they wanted to put in AI they'd have to upgrade the power delivery. I don't mind that so much. Besides, most DC operators would rather pay for power than do on-site generation. That's just an artifact of what we disincentivize. Water always finds the lowest point and so on.
fourseventy•42m ago
Elons datacenters in space are looking smarter and smarter by the day.
nailer•36m ago
Alaska maybe? Water, cold temperatures, low latency to contiguous USA. Shove them underground so nobody has to look at them.
pchristensen•27m ago
Excavating that much volume would be a heck of an expense.
conjectures•36m ago
Mars doesn't have zoning laws yet. /jk
binarymax•22m ago
NIMBY = Not In Mars Back Yard
mcphage•12m ago
> Elons datacenters in space are looking smarter and smarter by the day.

Where would the heat go?

runtime_terror•4m ago
You can't be serious? I hope I'm just missing the joke

To have an equivalent capacity of DCs in space would require such astronomical costs there is 0 chance it would be profitable esp considering how fast GPUs deprecate

How about we start with actually finishing all the datacenters we've started (many if not most are unstarted, paused or outright cancelled)?

FergusArgyll•33m ago
I don't get it, nyc wants to add government programs, they obviously need to tax something. Here come massive corps willing to invest a ton of money, just tax them at some reasonable rate and voila, you can now pay for city funded grocery stores or whatever
distortionfield•25m ago
They already have a balanced budget, why would they need to cave to these corporations?
runtime_terror•14m ago
So by your logic if a massive company came and said they want to setup an oil refinery or coal power plant you'd say they should say yes just because they could get tax revenue?

You always have to way the pros and cons of such massive projects.

Plus, this isn't a ban it's just a one year moratorium so impact etc can be studied.

WarmWash•4m ago
A datacenter ranks close to zero on the pollution scale. By comparison a golf course looks like a Superfund site.
ecshafer•25m ago
Populist nonsense like this is all that New York passes. Data Centers have minimal impact, provides some jobs, and New York needs to upgrade their power system and build more power plants anyways.
runtime_terror•18m ago
Minimal impact as defined by whom? I'm sure they impact those that live around them plenty as well as the price on electricity for those on the same grid.

They provide mostly temporary jobs (and majority imported to boot), after construction they're run with very little staff.

New York needs to upgrade its power grid (source?) so they should force it upon themselves by primitively overloading the grid?

A one year moratorium while impact is investigated, esp considering the current state of datacenters buildout, especially considering many in the US are either unstarted, on hold or abandoned, seems reasonable.

fintechjock•2m ago
What would you estimate is the annual electricity spend for those living next to data centers and those who don’t?
CodingJeebus•5m ago
> Data Centers have minimal impact

50k residents of Lake Tahoe need to find a new source of electricity now that their power provider is planning to feed a nearby data center[0].

0: https://fortune.com/2026/05/12/lake-tahoe-data-center-49000-...

kube-system•1m ago
satellite2•8m ago
How is a data center defined? Is a small business dedicating a room to server racks a "data center"?
kube-system•3m ago
The law defines it as (approximately) anything connected to a public utility that has more than one megawatt of computing power.
jasonlotito•2m ago
https://www.nysenate.gov/legislation/bills/2025/S10642
ks2048•4m ago
It would be ironic if irrational anti-data center actions was the one thing that prevented an irrational AI bubble. (I’m thinking of a bubble in building/funding/economics, not in abilities).
SirFatty•3m ago
yeah, irrational...
mhb•3m ago
Other than data centers being the bogeyman du jour, why isn't the bill written more generally to address potential impacts of any large new business that is anticipated to create effects like noise, pollution, infrastructure requirements, etc.

It's not already required for proposed businesses to address these issues?

saltyoldman•2m ago

   B. THE TERM "DATA CENTER" SHALL NOT INCLUDE FACILITIES MAJORITY-OWNED,
 OPERATED,  OR  OTHERWISE CONTROLLED BY A PUBLIC RESEARCH INSTITUTION AND
 USED FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES.
Lol, always a carveout for the commies.
jcranmer•28m ago
Hell, after the 'competition' was announced, many commentators observed that it was pretty much written with Arlington, VA in mind, and the competition was less a serious competition and more a ploy to try to get a lot of subsidies for what their plans already were. It's also worth noting that the bids that were accepted (Arlington and New York) were some of the most miserly bids.
bloppe•24m ago
The biggest possible tax break is zero tax, which is what you get when they move out of state
dylan604•49m ago
Once construction of a data center has completed, how many jobs will they actually be adding? It reminds me of the people saying that oil pipelines are good for jobs, but that's again only a temporary blip during construction. For data centers, for the sheer size of them, they are massively empty of people.
CodingJeebus•43m ago
"Job growth" is such an easily manipulated metric by companies to score tax breaks from governments, especially for companies like Amazon that can claim "our warehouse will create X jobs" while developing autonomous warehouse technology that significantly cuts the number of actual jobs on the back end.

Such tax breaks should be tied to auditable figures verifying that the corporation hired the number of people they claimed they would, but of course they would never agree to such terms.

ecshafer•24m ago
How many temporary and permanent jobs does an empty lot provide? Many temporary and a few permanent sounds much better.
zerobees•14m ago
New York doesn't have many "empty lots". If it's agricultural land that's getting converted into datacenters, it probably supports a comparable number of temporary and permanent jobs per acre in the region's climate.
kotaKat•22m ago
One data center in upstate NY tried to include a call center as part of it in their quote of "500 jobs" for a planned Bitcoin farm, but then mentioned that the call center would be doing 'healthcare advocacy' calls.

My stomach twisted because that can generally just mean one thing in my experience in the call center / tech support industry: outbound Medicaid/Medicare ripoff scam service calls.

Their DC never came to fruition, but a few others up here did. "Hundreds of jobs" didn't happen, they got maybe like 30 parts swappers and security dorks to run around an old Superfund site and play hardware babysitter.

WarmWash•7m ago
Those things are cash cows for local municipalities. I don't think that aspect is communicated at all, or at least the media leaves that part out.

A town a with a $50M budget can easily have a single large datacenter cover the townsfolk's entire tax bill, and then some. The worst part is the fan noise, but I am sure they can figure that out.

rightbyte•45m ago
Amazon wanted a deal that was just bad for NY.
wat10000•2m ago
The massive spike in the price of RAM is making consumer electronics more expensive and worse.
gruez•6m ago
That's a fair complaint, but banning data centers in NY isn't going to make RAM or GPU prices cheaper.
kube-system•9m ago
There's a serious concern that we're in a bubble and many of the pending disruptions to land use and infrastructure might be soon abandoned with no one left to clean up the mess
cucumber3732842•7m ago
What mess? It's a big empty metal box with a heck of an HVAC system and a parking lot sized for industrial use. Just about any less specialized use could be pivoted to at any point during or after construction.

These things only become static "messes" or "blighted" because regulation prevents fire sale and pivot to a new use from being viable.

trumpdong•5m ago
Or if nobody wants to buy them
cucumber3732842•4m ago
And why does nobody buy them?
throwaway198846•5m ago
How much land do data center use and of which type of land?
runarberg•3m ago
Cars were not a new technology either when they went nuts on highway infrastructure which ruined the city centers. Perhaps if they had slowed down and studied the impacts before bulldozing neighborhood for highways some damage might have been prevented.
boringg•8m ago
Whats new about this? We've had data centers for 20 years now? Research which impacts?

Only thing new is speed of deployment and scale - which frankly would align with why we can't build in North America.

I would agree that the political system is the place to push if you have real concerns about the our data center / AI build out - and that will be a huge part of this next election. No other way to either accelerate or decelerate outside of macro economic factors outside our countrol.

zerobees•5m ago
I'm surprised by your interpretation. As a deliberately polarizing analogy, the first Trump administration pushed for a policy that boiled down to the same principle: pause immigration from certain places "until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on".

I don't think anyone here would describe that example as a good-faith policy. I feel the same goes for the NY bill. It's not a sincere attempt to consider the pros and cons, it's just an effort to shut down unpopular projects to appease the electorate. Maybe that's right, but no need to pretend it's anything more.

oceanplexian•32m ago
I’d love more datacenters so I can colo my pet projects and startup like I was doing in the early 2000s

The point where we decided we would put all infrastructure in N. Virginia, stop owning hardware and rent it from a corporation charging 10x markup was right about when the Internet started going downhill.

kibwen•31m ago
Datacenters are extremely loud, you definitely don't want one in your approximate backyard. Ever considered fan noise while shopping for laptops? If so, then you don't want to live within a mile of a datacenter.
chrisandchris•12m ago
Actually cannot confirm. I'm once or twice outside of the Zurich datacenters and I really did not ever realize the sound outside.
Swizec•6m ago
> Ever considered fan noise while shopping for laptops? If so, then you don't want to live within a mile of a datacenter.

Or we could regulate that data centers be sound proof.

These are things we can solve. They just cost a little money so businesses will fight tooth and nail against it. But hey look we also used to dump slaughterhouse refuse and factory runoff straight into the river in the middle of cities. We don’t do that anymore because at some point it became illegal.

Easy peasy. Just make the things you don’t want businesses to do illegal and they’ll stop doing them.

We could even regulate that all data centers have a large public park and green space on its roof! Or be covered in solar panels to make its own power. Or a huge parking lot. Whatever we need or wish for, the billion+ dollar investment into the data center can provide.

bnop•21m ago
I would do a little due diligence here if I were you:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bP80DEAbuo

Data centers are great, abandoned properties left in the wake of investment bubbles have a bad impact