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Almost two years ago there was a thread on this (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=40872102). I'm curious now that more time has passed what people think?

Comments

nickandbro•1h ago

Waiting for Steam Frame.

NetOpWibby•1h ago

Ooh share results here when you get it!

daviding•1h ago

Will be interesting to see which side of $999 it drops. I'll buy it regardless but the optics (heh) on the high RAM cost issue and the unit price might temper demand a bit.

some_random•1h ago

Does the AVP actually compete with it? I thought it didn't do games?

daviding•50m ago

It does local stuff of course, and some are trying to bring PC streaming to it, e.g. https://github.com/Kross82/KRVR-releases

simjnd•40m ago

Sadly the passthrough is black and white only. That's the one thing I love about the Vision Pro is it never feels claustrophobic thanks to very good passthrough quality.

bananamogul•1m ago

Wow, Steam Frame has only B&W passthrough...[1]

The Quest 3S has color passthrough and it's hardly an Apple-level device, and it's $349 in comparison.

I guess as a gamer, I don't care that much. I put on my headset to game, and if I need to step away for a moment, I'm more likely to take it off than to wander around my house with a headset on. Still, I thought color passthrough was now table stakes for a headset.

[1] https://www.pcgamer.com/hardware/vr-hardware/the-steam-frame...

outside1234•1h ago

The only feature that looked compelling to me was the ability to have "multi-monitor" on a plane.

Did anyone ever use that and did it live up to the hype? Or did you just get sick from having a headset on?

sublinear•1h ago

A buddy let me try his Vision Pro, but I instead bought USB C display glasses. I just use them as a second display, not the AR experience you're probably thinking of.

I don't specify which brand or model because I have gone through several pairs since then. They're all about the same and somewhat flimsy, but worth it for the reduced bulk.

jotux•1h ago

>but I instead bought USB C display glasses

How did you use these? Did you like them?

sublinear•8m ago

I like them a lot and carry them as one would with headphones. My use case is boring and I mostly plug them into my phone and laptops, but they "just work" on most devices made in the last few years. I use them any time I'm stuck sitting somewhere for more than about 15 minutes.

With this form factor, the main limitation is physical user input, not compatibility or fatigue. There's no battery or adapters or walled garden to mess around with. I would not be opposed to a touch pad or gesture system if it actually worked reliably and didn't require accessories or excessive motion from me.

For now, they're literally just a screen in a pair of glasses, and that's all I ever wanted. I'm sure there will be improvements to this category, but any product that strays from this core functionality will be a hard pass from me.

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nathanyz•1h ago

No, haven't found a killer use case for it as of now. Was only a really good personal movie theater.

antimatter15•1h ago

simonjgreen•1h ago

Asked recently here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48275508

wahnfrieden•1h ago

I'm an indie that travels a lot. I'm interested in it to have more flexibility with ergonomic setups for development, such as being able to stand without needing a way to elevate my laptop to eye height (it's easy at least to find ways to get my keyboard halves to proper height for standing) or lying with keyboard halves at my sides.

Curious if anyone is using it successfully for ergonomics (not just for the convenience of having a big monitor which is secondary for me - Macbook + iPad sidecar display is very travel-friendly but very difficult to use ergonomically away from home).

volkl48•35m ago

I can't see any realistic way that the ergonomics would be better than your haphazard hotel room setup. Reality is that the device still has weight on your head and neck and is still kind of tiring to wear for long periods of time.

It's still 1.5lbs hanging off the front of your face and over hours that's still straining.

Lying down or in a recliner or something where you're not really having to support the device yourself is about the only way that I feel you might achieve any kind of better result in an ergonomics sense for a significant length of use time.

(Disclaimer: I had one to demo for a few months and used it/experimented with it sporadically, I don't own one.)

bijowo1676•1h ago

unless Apple allows adult content applications on Vision Pro its future is doomed.

There are only two first-adopters for any new technology: military and adult industry.

Without these you wont get any traction

wat10000•1h ago

iPhone has never allowed those and it seems to have done alright.

bijowo1676•1h ago

it did add Safari private browsing mode :), but overall iPhone piggybacked off of the Internet, which was created by Military and adult industry were the first large scale content websites that drove innovation

jzellis•1h ago

Yes, absolutely no one uses an iPhone to go to Pornhub and spank themselves into oblivion because Steve and Tim said it's wrong

wat10000•57m ago

And nobody does that on Vision Pro despite it including the same browsing capabilities, apparently.

NetOpWibby•1h ago

Web browsers exist

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djsavvy•1h ago

It's quite fun and I'll drop into it from time to time, but it's mostly a novel plaything for me. I do have a friend who has used it for full-time work for years though.

curiouscavalier•1h ago

having developed multiple apps on it and tried every which way to use it (as an XR enthusiast in general), I have never been so happy to put a headset up on the shelf and never pull it out again.

using as a spatial monitor was cool. for about 10min until my neck got tired of the added weight. but I’ll give credit that those 10min were pretty cool.

system2•59m ago

If you are not going to pick it up from the shelf, why wouldn't you sell it before it loses even more value as tech evolves?

dehugger•56m ago

most gen1 apple products are a small retirement investment if you keep it in working condition for long enough

orimirs•51m ago

Is there a headset you like use for prolonged periods?

ChoGGi•16m ago

I don't have any issue going a couple hours with my HP reverb g2, it is wired though, and I imagine quite a bit lighter.

wvenable•37m ago

Since it's tethered anyway for the battery, I think Apple made a mistake just not building it as a (smart) monitor tethered to a separate PC.

Imagine if the vision pro could just be plugged into a small compute module with a battery or just plugged directly into a Macbook. It would be lighter, cheaper, and more flexible. I think a lot more people would have been interested in it.

mzagaja•1h ago

Primarily as an external monitor and when good 3D or immersive videos are released.

some_random•1h ago

Does the AVP still not integrate with VR games/simulators? I understand why Apple wants it to be a productivity tool not a gaming device, but it really sucks to restrict it in that way.

fsiefken•40m ago

It can with:

KRVR - https://krvr.app/

ALVR - https://apps.apple.com/us/app/alvr/id6479728026

tracyhenry•53m ago

Not regularly, but I do watch movies on it once in a while (in those beautiful environments), especially when I'm on a flight.

WWDC also just rolled out some quite exciting features to RealityKit: https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2026/279/ as well as visionOS itself (https://developer.apple.com/videos/play/wwdc2026/287/)

It makes me wonder if Apple is really giving it up as news have claimed.

jeromegv•49m ago

> It makes me wonder if Apple is really giving it up as news have claimed.

I don't think anyone serious has claimed that.

zorobo•33m ago

Still using the AVP but not exclusively, about 3 hours a day, with a hardware Bluetooth keyboard.

Mostly multiple safari windows opening on servers via webterm, cli and emacs.

It’s especially great when traveling.

Only problem, I cannot share a window when presenting…

dmitshur•18m ago

I'm using it ocassionally - whenever I have time to do further WebXR development beyond what I've already done, and when an interesting new immersive video or 3D movie becomes available on it. I'll sometimes use it to catch up on any new VR180 videos on youtube.

For other work or entertainment that doesn't take advantage of its spatial features, I tend to prefer to use a computer with an external display. The display in the Vision Pro cannot match the resolution and HDR headroom of the external display I ended up having (Pro Display XDR). Maybe if the Vision Pro's screen was better than my external display, I'd have additional motivation to use it more often.

jordemort•10m ago

I forgot those existed