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I stopped tracking my time. Now I can't focus

https://newsletter.masilotti.com/p/i-stopped-tracking-my-time-now-i
36•joemasilotti•1h ago

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datadrivenangel•1h ago
Calendars can be powerful focusing tools.
joemasilotti•1h ago
Agreed! But to a point, sometimes time blocks suck away all of my creativity.
throwway120385•55m ago
It depends -- if you need something from someone else, setting a meeting and sitting with them until they give it to you can be really powerful.
lurn_mor•51m ago
Indeed. I use mine to help me revisit languishing projects on a regular basis, and 'finish' them eventually! I can ignore anything on my calendar and work on whimsical things, but guilt eventually catches up and I acquiesce to the calendar's demands!
politician•1h ago
Hey Joe, I think the solution to your problem is in your post. You said that when you were tracking your time it killed your idea, and that when you stopped tracking your time you became unfocused.

Try letting AI classify your idea into a time-tracking bucket for you, and to generate a beginning of day report describing how you spent your time yesterday.

If you write down your idea, then it'll be harder to forget it. You can let the AI figure out where to put it and fix it the next day if it's wrong.

If you look at where you spent your time yesterday each morning, then hopefully it'll help you figure out a better place to spend your time today.

You can easily set this up with any harness. Just copy and paste my comment and tell the AI to make some skills.

joemasilotti•1h ago
I don't disagree that that might help. But I think this is more of a realization that I want to use AI... less?
sam1r•1h ago
Hey man, the best way to go about this — is to gamify your schedule and make your self do the items you desire to do. Whatever you plan for your day 8-9am every day, can be “read only” until you journal eod.

Trust me, I’m adhd. Good luck!

sam1r•57m ago
Also, thanks for bringing light to a significant issue / topic— I feel like there’s a lot of ….

solo standing, no corporate or faang job (at the moment, by decision) & “founding status” technical full stack eng.. but “pre-revenue” for whatever projects you passionately pursue regularly.

“If you can’t create the curriculum for the day, how can you expect to succeed eod”

Hence, you gotta make it fun for yourself.. the items you achieve and get done after, will be a piece of cake (8-9 write only, until eod, read only + journal: tom > today).

You got this!

lenova•31m ago
Would you mind explaining what this looks like practice? Fellow ADHDer here!
joemasilotti•25m ago
Please share more about this, it sounds really interesting!
hashmap•59m ago
i looked at the overall shape of the words and punctuation on this page and thought, oh this looks like adhd, let me scroll down... yup adhd. didnt read any of it though cause it reminds me of something that i need to do that ive never thought of before, so now i have to go do that thing
joemasilotti•24m ago
Sorry for triggering you :(
connectsnk•15m ago
Lol. BTW how did you figure out the writing style is ADHD
cloche•49m ago
I track my time even though I don't have clients. I find it helps me say "ok this next block is for this task" and it helps me keep focus.
hungryhobbit•42m ago
Was there a point to this article?

I sure couldn't find it: to me it read like "I time tracked, now I don't" with no actual insight or conclusion into why either might be preferable.

lukan•39m ago
"Was there a point to this article?"

To tell us that he cannot focus.

sheepscreek•28m ago
I believe this was the point they’re making.

> Turns out, the friction I felt around picking one thing may have actually been beneficial. Perhaps it was actually helping me stay focused. Even if it cost just a bit of extra time before I sat down and worked.

They regretted it.

joemasilotti•23m ago
Does there have to be a point? I had some feelings I wanted to share with the world.
kgwxd•22m ago
That's cool and all, but I think the real question they're asking is "Why is it on the front page of HN?".
rektomatic•15m ago
It's point is highlighting a common issue that is becoming widespread due to AI tool proliferation. I have the same exact issues. I used to love sinking into deep work mode but now that's gone.
dgunay•31m ago
I spent a few months doing some coarse time tracking at work - basically I'd retroactively add and edit events on my calendar to reflect what I had actually done during the workday, down to 15 minute increments. I binned them into IC work, meetings, interruptions, and non-work stuff. While I did get some insights about where my time was going, it mostly just made me really anxious and input-oriented about my productivity and made feel guilty if I didn't end up working a full 8 hours on a given day. Stopping the time tracking was good for my mental health.
joemasilotti•25m ago
> made me really anxious and input-oriented about my productivity

Yes, exactly! Even if I got a bunch done I'd still feel like I didn't accomplish anything if I had "wasted" too much time.

xpct•24m ago
I've tried it for a few months for 1-hour intervals and it wasn't as stressful, and was a useful exercise to understand how I'm using my time.

I feel like there's a few lessons here, depending on what your goal is: if you're mostly working, are those hours useful, and if you're not, do you care about it?

dwedge•15m ago
Regarding the 8 hour, I've just come to realise that I can't get 8 productive hours in a day (I want to say most people can't but maybe I'm projecting). I track every day and the good days have around 5 hours tracked. The bad days around 2
zem•26m ago
the solution might be checklisting in lieu of time tracking - rather than note what you spend each moment on, define tasks and subtasks, and work on one set of subtasks at a time. the checklist helps maintain focus because if you think of something random you can note it down for later rather than jump straight into it.
sublinear•20m ago
This is very similar to a GTD inbox and I agree.

There needs to be time set aside later for sorting through the inbox, but that's still better than constantly being distracted throughout the day.

banderson623•12m ago
I live by checklists and timers since i am so easily distracted. I set up a ton of small items to-do and the use a timer to stay on track.

I did this enough that I eventually made a tiny Mac OS desktop app to help me. It’s so basic, but my productivity is meaningfully higher.

I hate promoting my stuff, but this might be helpful for others too: https://pomododo-app.com/

niyazpk•11m ago
I don't understand the problem here. If you cannot focus, just focus more?

More structure/checklist to force you to focus will have other side-effects like you found out. When you get rid of the structure, you still need to have a rough map in your mind of where you want to go.

To me, this is similar to being honest. You don't want to depend on a system or checklist for being honest. It is something you always need, as a policy. Focus is like that. If you want to focus seriously on something, just make it a policy, and don't use all these tricks as crutches.

joemasilotti•10m ago
> If you cannot focus, just focus more?

I'm guessing you don't have ADHD, right?

niyazpk•7m ago
You are right, so I am probably completely on the wrong here. :D

A question to advance the discussion. What I am wondering is, if you can remember to go back to your time tracking system, why can you not remember to go back to your main goals?

joemasilotti•4m ago
Here's the thing: sometimes I forget the timer is running and I wake up to "You've been working on [project X] for 28 hours".
dodu_•7m ago
Least out of touch HN user
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ziofill•11m ago
Good for you to have figured this out! This is how I always work, and I am as productive as I can be because I only do what's on top of my mind. I've also learned that if something is never on top of my mind it's because it's not worth doing, so it gets filtered away automatically.

I probably am in a privileged position to be able to do this (greenfield research in the private sector), but I just love it.

joemasilotti•9m ago
> I've also learned that if something is never on top of my mind it's because it's not worth doing, so it gets filtered away automatically.

I wish I could work that way! Sadly, I have client obligations that aren't always the most exciting thing I want to be working on. But they pay the bills.

jimbokun•5m ago
What focuses me is remembering this mantra attributed to Steve Jobs:

Real Artists Ship

The idea that nothing you’re working on is real until you ship it to customers, users, or whoever the stakeholders are.

Helps a lot against bouncing between lots of projects and not making much progress on any of them.

7m ago
> If you cannot focus, just focus more?

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