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The (real) dead economy theory

https://pluralistic.net/2026/06/17/its-the-stupid-economy-stupid/
47•hn_acker•1h ago

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civilian•52m ago
> That's the logic of the whole market today. AI – the world's money-losingest technology – attracts investment at the expense of everything else.

I expect Cory to have skepticism about technology that can be exploited for dystopian purposes, but calling AI "the world's money-losingest technology" is out of touch. If AI can support/replace some intellectual work, it'll be revolutionary, and that's what the investment bet is about.

I get that the blog post is making a separate point about Musk's companies but it's dissapointing to see mistakes like this in Cory's thinking

bayarearefugee•48m ago
> calling AI "the world's money-losingest technology" is out of touch

In what way is it out of touch or wrong? It is objectively correct today.

It may very well not be correct 2 years from now, but his statement was about the present, not the future.

MaysonL•44m ago
AI is currently a massive money sink. Yes or No?
ZionBoggan•35m ago
Obviously no...? The implications far outweigh the "money sink" notion...
ggm•23m ago
Obviously yes. On evidence alone the path to profit doesn't exist for most of the massive capital sinks. A small number of players At best MAY return on investment, but in the cycle time capital needs a return, most are functionally incapable

AGI isn't happening. So, it's incremental improvements on LLM and Generative methods. Any advance which requires more tech inputs demands more capital. Any advance which requires less tech makes all the existing capex look stupid.

amanaplanacanal•41m ago
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lukol•35m ago
"money-losingest" -> AI already brings in billions and many AI companies could become profitable in little time if they'd stop R&D and simply keep selling what they already have.

yes, it's risky and investment-heavy but it's not a bottomless pit with no path to break even. there are many other recent technologies - NFTs? data centers in space? - that would be a better fit for this label.

projektfu•4m ago
Is that true? If Anthropic stopped last November at versions 4.5, would people keep using it enough to recoup the investment?
pfraze•18m ago
“Losing” is a loaded word choice. If I buy something I’m really happy to have, I probably don’t describe it as losing the money.

Obviously the investment expense has been extremely high, which is what the replies are quibbling about.

nelsonfigueroa•14m ago
> If AI can support/replace some intellectual work, it'll be revolutionary, and that's what the investment bet is about.

That's one big "If". From personal experience AI just tends to burn money. Time will tell if the investment pays off but I disagree that, at this time, it is out of touch to say AI is a money sink.

lionheart•40m ago
I just don't get it. How do you go from writing the kinds of future visions he has to staring at the singularity practically hitting you in the face and calling it "the world's money-losingest technology"?

Is it because he isn't actually using the technology for work on a day-to-day basis like a lot of us?

techbro92•32m ago
I think you are confusing Charles Stross with Cory Doctorow
lionheart•28m ago
I think you’re right. And yet still.
beebmam•25m ago
Ideological capture is an often socially enforced prison
neko_ranger•38m ago
most interesting sentence is the first one
rokob•34m ago
> something is valuable because some people think other people will pay more for it in the future, and not because it does useful things

This has been the definition of finance for hundreds of years. I don't know why it comes across here like this is a new phenomenon.

roxolotl•20m ago
Just because something is doesn’t mean it ought to be. We’ve settled on this system because it seems to be generally the most effective way of valuing things. In times of extreme changes in valuation it comes off as more egregious than normal.
debo_•18m ago
Whenever I read Cory Doctorow, I feel like someone took the complement of Paul Graham's writing and posted it. I personally find both of them vapid and annoying.

Edit: the article that the author is commenting on is IMO much better than the linked commentary. There's not much to it

https://crookedtimber.org/2026/06/15/one-big-grift/

Solvent Publishing Guide

https://github.com/ianalloway/solvent-agent
1•ianalloway•3m ago•0 comments

UTFS: A Tar-Like File System for Embedded Systems (2025)

https://clisystems.com/article-UTFS-intro/
1•zdw•7m ago•0 comments

How Agents Quietly Break Architecture [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTDcJcvrfCU
1•woggy•7m ago•0 comments

Telling an LLM who made it changes which vendor it recommends

https://research.mikepink.com/posts/llm-creator-preference/
1•mikepink•8m ago•1 comments

Sovereign AI: Why Owning the Full Stack Is the New Strategic Imperative

https://www.forbes.com/sites/chuckbrooks/2026/04/22/sovereign-ai-why-owning-the-full-stack-is-the...
1•HardAnchor•11m ago•0 comments

HPV jabs cut risk of dying from cervical cancer before 30 to almost zero

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/jun/17/hpv-jabs-reduce-risk-dying-cervical-cancer-before...
2•toomuchtodo•12m ago•0 comments

ISA_recovery: Auto-generates a Ghidra SLEIGH spec for undocumented ISAs

https://github.com/infobyte/isa_recovery
1•ilreb•15m ago•0 comments

As I am suing the FBI, there may be interruptions to VitaSet LLC's operation

1•VitaSetLLC•16m ago•3 comments

Noam Shazeer is joining OpenAI

https://www.reuters.com/technology/googles-gemini-co-lead-noam-shazeer-join-openai-2026-06-18/
6•devanshp•17m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Free Alternative to Crunchbase

https://startupswiki.vercel.app/
1•shpran•19m ago•0 comments

Jeremy Clarkson, British TV Host, Says He Has Cancer

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/17/world/europe/jeremy-clarkson-cancer-uk.html
3•cyanbane•20m ago•0 comments

Anza – Reactive web apps using native ESM and browser APIs

https://anza.aduki.org/
2•fescii•21m ago•0 comments

Noam Shazeer Joins OpenAI

https://twitter.com/NoamShazeer/status/2067400851438932297
5•lukasgross•22m ago•0 comments

ChatGPT Spontaneously Generates Sexual Violence and Hardcore Snuff Imagery

https://mindgard.ai/blog/chatgpt-spontaneously-generated-violent-images-from-a-viral-prompt
3•dijksterhuis•24m ago•0 comments

Mastodon 4.6: Collections, profiles, and other improvements

https://blog.joinmastodon.org/2026/06/mastodon-4.6/
1•doener•25m ago•0 comments

AI in Cardiac CT

https://litfl.com/ai-in-cardiac-ct/
1•Alien1Being•25m ago•0 comments

AI CAD vs. AI CAD battle: Transfigure vs. Google Gemini Pro

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DZtOnedBDnu/
2•itstransfigure•31m ago•0 comments

Meta's CTO says morale is almost 'the worst it's ever been'

https://www.businessinsider.com/meta-cto-andrew-bosworth-addresses-morale-after-layoffs-ai-shift-...
2•champagnepapi•33m ago•1 comments

We Ran the Numbers. Remote Work Is Bad for Us

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/17/opinion/remote-work-depression.html
1•gmays•37m ago•1 comments

Relax

https://www.guidavid.com/writing/relax
1•gdss•38m ago•0 comments

Federal Trade Commission sues leading transgender health group

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/17/health/ftc-transgender-care-lawsuit
4•2OEH8eoCRo0•41m ago•0 comments

Thoma Bravo hands Medallia to lenders in one of private equity's biggest losses

https://www.ft.com/content/ae4b6c77-9b3d-46fb-a7fc-59f072e7291b
2•petethomas•43m ago•0 comments

Rationale for the 2026 Iran War

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rationale_for_the_2026_Iran_war
3•doener•47m ago•1 comments

How Does One Brain Speak Two Languages?

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/15/science/brain-language-grammar.html
4•Anon84•47m ago•2 comments

Agent finder for GitHub Copilot now available

https://github.blog/changelog/2026-06-17-agent-finder-for-github-copilot-now-available/
2•soheilpro•48m ago•0 comments

GitHub Copilot app generally available

https://github.blog/changelog/2026-06-17-github-copilot-app-generally-available/
2•soheilpro•48m ago•0 comments

South Georgia Student Develops Method to Control Kudzu [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDCCuiFynrU
2•assimpleaspossi•51m ago•1 comments

Copilot individual plan sign-ups are reopening

https://github.blog/changelog/2026-06-17-copilot-individual-plan-sign-ups-are-reopening/
1•soheilpro•55m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Pitch-by-pitch baseball simulation app to simulate games and seasons

https://baseball.chesterton.tech/
2•HaxleRose•1h ago•3 comments

A Human Artist's Defense of AI Art

https://asherperlman.substack.com/p/a-human-artists-defense-of-ai-art
2•erikschoster•1h ago•0 comments