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Google Hits 50% IPv6

https://blog.apnic.net/2026/04/28/google-hits-50-ipv6/
67•barqawiz•1h ago

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b112•56m ago
And 32% is all llm/bots using AWS and other "pay for ipv4 IP" use cases.
benjojo12•45m ago
As someone on the fighting end of scrapers, this is absolutely not true. If anything I should bais towards v6 as the traffic is on par better than v4
Sesse__•28m ago
Just remove the A record, and nearly all the scrapers disappear. :-) (And then you get one email per month or so that “your host does not resolve in DNS”.)
jcgl•45m ago
Citation needed. These numbers are quite consistent with the growth pattern that started well before usable LLMs were even a thing.
BadBadJellyBean•54m ago
I wonder if there will ever come a day when IPv6 will provide a better web experience than IPv4.

At the moment pretty much every website is reachable via IPv4 but a lot not via IPv6. Will there be a day when this turns around?

mritzmann•48m ago
> a better web experience than IPv4

That's already the case. IPv6 is often faster because most ISPs these days use cgnat for IPv4.

BadBadJellyBean•39m ago
True but not deploying any IPv4 connectivity would be a worse experience than not deploying IPv6.
mort96•35m ago
That fraction of a millisecond doesn't meaningfully translate into a better experience for users.
kalleboo•29m ago
You're assuming the ISP has dimensioned their CGNAT properly and it's not congested.
AndyMcConachie•46m ago
I would expect online video games to be a more important driver.
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PacificSpecific•53m ago
First thing I do on a fresh Linux install is set ipv6 to deactivated. Fixes all my initial Linux install problems. I don't question it, it just works every time.
BadBadJellyBean•50m ago
Something is very wrong with your network then. I never needed to disable IPv6. Maybe you should question it.
PacificSpecific•46m ago
Fair enough. I do question it often.

It's a standard Asus router but it's given me a lot of ire. I hate to say it but it's never a problem when I install windows on the same machines

(I'm currently in the process of trying to completely remove windows from my life)

CrLf•23m ago
There are maybe many buggy routers still out there that reset the IPv6 flow label field when they shouldn't, breaking hash-based load-balancers (the symptom is TCP connections spontaneously reset).

IIRC, a workaround was to prevent Linux from setting this field, or force-reset it on every outbound packet using netfilter.

xyst•26m ago
Skill issue.
CrLf•19m ago
UX issue, and UX issues are often downplayed by engineers, leading to adoption failures.

Another such example is SELinux, which would have prevented so many vulnerabilities from being exploited, but whose poor UX also caused everyone to disable it at install time.

SELinux's UX was significantly improved many years later, but already too late to change ingrained opinions. There are a lot of ingrained opinions about IPv6 too.

Cider9986•47m ago
How does IPV6 affect ip blocking. As a VPN user I wish it wasn't used as a metric for sites shaking you down.
BadBadJellyBean•6m ago
I assume for aggressive blocking the prefix size will only change. What is a /32 for IPv4 might become a /64 or smaller for IPv6.
MYEUHD•46m ago
Thread from two months ago (626 comments): https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47777894
coldstartops•44m ago
Google hits 50% IPv6, very good for accessing websites.

But my TP-Link router blocks by default inbound IPv6 connections, without any option to configure it, still bad for pure IPv6 bidirectional streaming, gaming or services on home networks.

jmyeet•17m ago
All these systems are a reflection of the time that they were designed. IPv6 is 30 years old. At that time a lot of threats just didn't exist. One of my favorite is the decision to default to /64 blocks. There was a time when the designers believed that you'd use your 48 bit MAC address as part of this. Now we know that's a PII nightmare and nobody does it. Yet we're still stuck with the 128 bit addresses that came from that.

To your point, IPv6 sought to replace NAT with just having enough addresses but interestingly, that created a problem. If you used NAT and had a service on your computer request a port for incoming connections, that showed intent on behalf of the owner of that service. IPv6 doesn't have that intent, which forces home router makers do block addresses by default because you don't want most PCs on the Internet such that an external agent can scan your PC. You may end up with an unintended service on the open Internet.

So is the bigger address range better? Technically, maybe? But you have to consider defaults and intents of users. And that can take a good technical solution to a bad solution or at least create a whole bunch of problems.

BadBadJellyBean•7m ago
I don't think this is inherently a problem. It's good for home routers to have sensible defaults. Blocking incoming IPv6 connections is such a thing. Opening a port in the firewall shows the same kind of intent as forwarding a port with NAT. The burden is on the router manufacturers to expose these options in a sensible way. My router for example has a similar UI to forwarding a port with IPv4 and opening the port for IPv6.

Using NAT as a firewall might work but it brings it's own problems. I find the IPv6 way better.

skywhopper•41m ago
I’ve yet to live anywhere where the available mainstream ISPs were willing or able to provide IPv6 service. I’d be happy to use it, if I were able.

I also have built cloud infrastructure for multiple SaaS providers with tens of thousands of customers over the past decade. Only one customer I’m aware of has ever even requested IPv6 support. And if customers aren’t asking for it, my employers have never been interested in the full network re-architecture required to truly support it internally.

There are still several basic services you can’t run IPv6-only in AWS, and a handful of AWS service features that don’t support it at all.

As a sysadmin for decades now, I’ve always found IPv6 to be overengineered and in many ways completely ridiculous. But I’d love to be supporting it in everything I do. Only I still can’t, even after 20+ years of being lectured about it; even after complete IPv4 exhaustion has been reached. I don’t think we’re ever going to turn IPv4 off. At best it will be progressively hidden, even from technical users. And folks like me will just have to keep building workarounds to patch the holes where IPv6 still doesn’t work.

ThePhysicist•40m ago
Noooo, my /22 IPv4 subnet allocation is my personal 401k, I need this money to retire.
mimsee•30m ago
Time to cash in?
rvba•39m ago
Great example of how fixing things "the correct way" does not seem to work sometimes.

They added those new addresses that can store more information.. but this requires a rewrite of old software to make it work.

If they used the old >bolting on top< method by extending ip4 from 4 octets to 8 (or more) octets, then old software could be extended much easier too / probably addresses could be simply mechanically translated too, so ancient software can work.

noduerme•29m ago
I never heard this idea before, but more octets would be a lot prettier!!
johannes1234321•21m ago
Software availability isn't really the problem. For most software there was no change at all ("connect to that host" or "listen to any device" and operating system will handle details), most software which needed adaption had it for a while (picking up a devices explicitly, handling of IPv6 addressees, ...) while maybe not equally good (missing GUI improvements for better handling of IPV6 addresses)

The problems, as I observe, are more in network infrastructure, routing, etc.

BadBadJellyBean•16m ago
There is no space to put the additional octets. Supporting this would have needed a rewrite anyways. Nothing won there. They took that as a chance to improve the protocol overall.
spockz•35m ago
Meanwhile T-Mobile/Odido in the Netherlands is still not supporting IPv6 despite promising to have been working on it for years.

Ubiquity gateways also seem to not support it sadly. It would be awesome if they supported something like Hurricane Electric’s tunneling.

kuschku•32m ago
Huh? Ubiquity has dropped support? I can't believe that, even the older EdgeRouter series supported it.
mkj•21m ago
Old Nanostations as a client seem to need to do proxy arp or something, which doesn't handle ipv6. That said it's probably 15 year old hardware. I ended up using a wireguard tunnel across it instead.
mtucker502•22m ago
They support it. I have it enabled with Spectrum. No file modification necessary; all configurable from the UI.
jdw64•30m ago
I made my homepage (www.makonea.com) support IPv6 too, but the number of people actually using it is much smaller than I expected. Is IPv6 really that widely used? I'm supporting both because I heard it's good to support both, but I'm not sure what the actual benefit is. Sometimes, when behind Cloudflare, I think even if someone connects via IPv6, it ends up coming through as IPv4
BadBadJellyBean•24m ago
It's good to support it to resolve the chicken egg problem. If no service supports it, there is no sense in deploying it to the customers and the other way around.

Also you made the life better of people who have DS lite. They only get a public IPv6 and all their IPv4 traffic goes through a CGNAT.

reddalo•15m ago
For people like me: DS Lite stands for "IPv6 dual-stack lite". My mind went directly to Nintendo and I was confused.
xyst•23m ago
Took them long enough. Now if only Google would follow with their own services.

Sure Gmail has ipv6 enabled and routable ip6 MX. but sending to those addresses is often rejected and forced to retry over ipv4.

Don’t get me started on gh

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34m ago
Faster webrtc establishments and other negotiated connections. CGNAT means more relayed than P2P connections so it should be possible to have more direct traffic for services that want to save that bandwidth.

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