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The favors we used to need

https://davidpoblador.com/blog/the-favors-we-used-to-need.html
1•nirvanis•1m ago•0 comments

Show HN: FileVeil · Hide Any File Inside Another File

https://fileveil.com/
1•fileveil•1m ago•0 comments

Java's SSLContext protocol name is a footgun

https://neilmadden.blog/2026/06/23/javas-sslcontext-protocol-name-is-a-footgun/
1•theanonymousone•3m ago•0 comments

Qwen-AgentWorld: Language World Models for General Agents

https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen-agentworld
1•shallow-mind•3m ago•0 comments

Note-Taking Using the Zettelkasten Method

https://blog.ptidej.net/the-zettelkasten-method/
2•aliiiimaher•5m ago•1 comments

Building Safe Kill-on-Touch Honeytokens in a Windows Endpoint Security Tool

https://www.sentrixshield.com/blog/building-safe-kill-on-touch-honeytokens/
1•NatanCb•6m ago•0 comments

Bodycam Shows Cops Arrest a Man for Speaking Too Long at Data Center Meeting

https://www.404media.co/bodycam-footage-video-claremore-oklahoma-data-center-meeting/
2•cdrnsf•7m ago•0 comments

Mechanical Sympathy

https://vickiboykis.com/2026/04/13/mechanical-sympathy/
1•surprisetalk•8m ago•0 comments

Software Engineers

https://code-healers.careers-page.com/jobs/5146a4d9-26c9-4c9b-9997-fed16b22bd7b
2•cnjeri•10m ago•0 comments

A Solution to A.I.'S Growing Power Demand: Homes

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/06/24/business/energy-environment/ai-data-centers-tesla.html
4•1vuio0pswjnm7•11m ago•2 comments

Ask HN: Did the 1984 Mac share more in common with the c64 than the Apple II?

2•amichail•11m ago•0 comments

Are We GlobalShortcuts Yet?

https://areweglobalshortcutsyet.github.io
2•birdculture•14m ago•0 comments

New Viking music Call of Valhalla

https://open.spotify.com/track/1TnFYBoWeZSfrn48valvzU
2•mrhappypappy•14m ago•0 comments

Model Training as Code

https://aleph-alpha.com/en/blog/model-training-as-code/
3•peterBlue75•14m ago•0 comments

X401: HTTP-Native Identity Exchange for the Agentic Web

https://www.proof.com/blog/introducing-x401
2•csuwldcat•14m ago•0 comments

Your Grid Lanes will likely fail WCAG 2.4.3

https://matuzo.at/blog/2026/grid-lanes-accessibility
2•eustoria•15m ago•0 comments

Legibility of Effort

https://eieio.games/blog/legibility-of-effort/
3•eustoria•17m ago•0 comments

Frontend benchmarks need workload context

https://krabarena.com/battles/react-vs-angular-vs-vue-for-dashboard-heavy-frontends
2•PashaGo•17m ago•0 comments

How We'll fight the platform war against Big AI

https://www.anildash.com/2026/06/23/fight-ai-platform-war/
3•eustoria•17m ago•0 comments

What Do Manufacturing Buyers Want?

https://deploy95.substack.com/p/what-do-industrial-buyers-want
2•tristalihaha•18m ago•1 comments

Adobe to Acquire Topaz Labs

https://www.businesswire.com/news/home/20260625160239/en/Adobe-to-Acquire-Topaz-Labs
2•nycdatasci•19m ago•0 comments

Adobe Acquires Topaz Labs

https://techcrunch.com/2026/06/25/adobe-acquires-image-and-video-enhancement-tool-maker-topaz-labs/
2•nycdatasci•20m ago•0 comments

Talking robot heads and one human with a tinfoil helmet [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aicfLYrRuUw
2•deadprogram•20m ago•0 comments

Bitcoin falls back under $60k, hitting its lowest level since October 2024

https://www.cnbc.com/2026/06/24/bitcoin-falls-back-under-60000-hitting-its-lowest-level-since-oct...
4•1vuio0pswjnm7•21m ago•0 comments

Human Dignity

https://www.nubero.ch/blog/017/
2•speckx•21m ago•0 comments

UN hypocrisy in AI Environmental demands

https://www.thatprivacyguy.com/blog/un-tracking-without-consent/
2•AlexanderHanff•21m ago•1 comments

Len Sassaman – Satoshi Nakamoto Evidence

https://pmarengo.medium.com/len-sassaman-satoshi-nakamoto-evidence-byzantine-generals-problem-c57...
2•binyu•22m ago•0 comments

Empower Others

https://pointc.co/empower-others/
2•benwerd•23m ago•0 comments

3D Rotations – From Zero to Geo 3.9 [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-9Da8kolAQU
2•surprisetalk•23m ago•0 comments

Good clarity on AI observability and in simple terms

https://posthog.com/blog/what-is-ai-observability
4•pineapple_opus•23m ago•1 comments
Open in hackernews

"Hey Nico, you didn't vibe code it, you stole Papermark's open source code"

https://twitter.com/mfts0/status/2070080422482977095
164•mmunj•1h ago

Comments

NickNaraghi•1h ago
Gonna have to see the agent trace on that one.
kleiba2•1h ago
Missing context.
xyzsparetimexyz•1h ago
Don't care. Competition is good for consumers.
irdc•57m ago
When it plays fair, sure. Not when it steals.
bogwog•29m ago
It is, but this isn't competition. This just copyright infringement.

Competition would be if these people created their own software, possibly innovating and improving it in the process. That would encourage Papermark to improve their own offering, and would create an environment where these businesses are economically incentivized to improve the product or service.

Nobody is incentivized to improve the software in question here. If copyright law doesn't protect anything, then improving your product is helping the competition and potentially hurting your business. Same is true if you're the people who did the infringement.

dgb23•12m ago
When competition has no rules it resorts to people banging each other over their heads with clubs.
lenerdenator•59m ago
Unless you don't copy the license terms, it's impossible to "steal" open-source code. That's... sort of the point.
irdc•56m ago
Papermark is AGPL; Corgi must release all its changes.
lenerdenator•55m ago
That means they're not complying with the license terms. Which would be stealing. Like I said it would be.
irdc•53m ago
So we're in violent agreement then?
lenerdenator•40m ago
Brutally violent agreement. kicks shin, shakes hand
josephg•41m ago
Thats not what you said. You said "copy the license terms". Copying a license isn't the same as complying with one.

Though it looks like in this case they didn't do either.

galangalalgol•36m ago
Copyright violation is not theft. Your effort to create something that can be effortlessly copied conveys to you no property. Society deems it beneficial to grant a time limited monopoly on copying it to spur innovation.
jobs_throwaway•58m ago
You didn't code it, you stole it from open source OS and compiler maintainers
rzmmm•50m ago
"before Bison version 1.24, Bison-generated parsers could be used only in programs that were free software."

https://www.gnu.org/software/bison/manual/html_node/Conditio...

irdc•58m ago
I'd suggest replacing that link with https://xcancel.com/mfts0/status/2070080422482977095
tom_•27m ago
And maybe reword the submission title while they're there, though the current one is well chosen for maximizing engagement I'm sure.
olluk•54m ago
Close your source if you don't want it to be read by LLM
goldenarm•52m ago
That's not how licenses work, Papermark is AGPL
olluk•26m ago
I agree. It's a sarcasm of the new reality. What is copying vs writing from scratch? The line is blurred now, non-existent. You can ask an LLM to re-write any open source to a degree where there is no definite way to say that it's a derivative.
ActionHank•49m ago
"If Disney wants to retain their rights to Mickey they really shouldn't be showing any images of him to the world."
qwertytyyuu•53m ago
Stealing it for your use case would take more effort vibe coding. The term is fine as is
wolttam•52m ago
Folks... read the actual tweet. They literally didn't vibe code it - they copy-pasted another project.
john_strinlai•43m ago
wait just a second, that's not how to use HN. youre supposed to read the title -> get upset and write a comment -> argue.
dools•42m ago
Vibe stole it?
josephg•37m ago
Probably just stole it by the looks of those screenshots.
Sanzig•37m ago
Yeah, the title that the OP chose is so sufficiently misleading that I think this one will need to be get changed by the mods. Seitz isn't opining on the ethics of vibe coding in his tweet, he's pointing out that Corgi literally just stole Papermark's AGPL codebase and passed it off as vibe coding.
jknoepfler•35m ago
It's nearly word-for-word the content of the tweet. Right at the top. It isn't misleading unless you literally don't even bother to open the linked content.

Just ban users who comment without reading, I think that would go further to keep the quality of discussion high.

The number of bots/trolls responding to the title without reading the content and missing the point entirely is astounding, honestly, and I don't think any of those posts are contributing to high quality discussion. We could do without those users.

"but but but I can't/won't open twitter links" - then don't flap your yak-hole. Ignoring for a moment that the content has been reproduced in full in this thread, and another user has provided an alternative xcancel link.

carlosjobim•52m ago
Logic of people in the FOSS swamp:

1. I'm going to give away all my work for free to the whole world.

2. HELP! HELP! POLICE! People are stealing my work!

Start charging a fair price for your work, or just give away the binaries and not the source if you want to do it for free.

Step out of the FOSS swamp, step in to human dignity.

elric•47m ago
What a load of crock.

FOSS licenses were obviously written in the spirit of sharing with humans. Some later licenses made the license less amenable for sharing with corporations because some authors didn't feel like they were being treated fairly. Some authors today have similar feelings about their code being used by Gen AI. It is perfectly fine for authors to want to place restrictions on how they want others to use their work.

> Step out of the FOSS swamp, step in to human dignity.

What is that even supposed to mean?

jazz9k•36m ago
Developers gave their code out for free, but want to discriminate against people they don't like from using it in ways they dislike.

The 'spirit of free software' is bullshit. It's software authoritarianism disguised as a noble cause.

ludamad•28m ago
Even so, what's wrong with this? They told you up front that they're going to discriminate. Students can use the code freely, businesses may struggle. People don't need to be fair.
xbar•13m ago
Don't use it.
bix6•48m ago
Ah another YC popcorn fest
feverzsj•44m ago
LLM generated code could have very similar pattern to existing code with stricter license it trained on. So, it's better to keep them to yourself instead of bothering the public.
Aurornis•40m ago
Since the Tweet is small enough and a lot of people aren’t reading it (Twitter links don’t work well for those without an account some times) I’ll quote it here

> Hey Nico,

> It looks like you didn't vibe code your data room but stole it from Papermark's open source and enterprise-licensed code.

> We demand you take this copyright and license infringing product down immediately.

> It's not moving fast and breaking things, it's fraud.

> It makes the rest of your business questionable and the YC community look terrible.

aboardRat4•40m ago
It is not possible to steal something which doesn't obey conservation laws. Don't try to scam physics, is always wins.
blourvim•30m ago
License in question: https://github.com/papermark/papermark?tab=License-1-ov-file It is AGPL, basically means:

You have to share the source code even when the user interacts over the network with the software.

The project which uses that code, must also be AGPL,

There are ways to separate it and go around it, for example, using an AGPL auth server shouldn't affect the code where your business logic lives

I am sure they could have found a way to design their product to be compliant, especially following past drama.

This is assuming the code is indeed copied, since we don't know that for sure, it does look very similar but I am not sure how that is enforced

Chris2048•4m ago
What's with this response in the Twitter thread??:

"This ain't what a C&D looks like. Implies you don't actually have a leg to stand on. Upload a copy of your official legal demand (from a lawyer) or I'll forever see your company as one who attempts to bully the competition in public"

-- https://xcancel.com/jacobhartmannx/status/207012600834729596...

Is this just trolling?!

brookst•27m ago
You wouldn’t steal a car!
gryfft•54m ago
Many open source licenses levy restrictions upon the acceptable use of the software. Those restrictions may include attribution requirements, up to and including a requirement to include the license when redistributing the code; they may forbid using derivative works for commercial purposes; they may require the downstream project to utilize the same license. Open source is not the same thing as "anybody can do anything they want forever."
lenerdenator•53m ago
> Unless you don't copy the license terms
gryfft•51m ago
You edited your comment while I was replying, and merely copying the license does not cover many other possible restrictions.
lenerdenator•47m ago
I didn't edit anything.

I did choose the wrong word, though. Comply, not copy.

DiabloD3•34m ago
So, by definition, you did edit it to change the typo.
john_strinlai•28m ago
>So, by definition, you did edit it to change the typo.

their comment still says "copy". the comment you are replying to clarifies that they meant to type "comply", not copy.

since the wrong word is still there, 'by definition' they have not edited it.

gryfft•16m ago
Well, if it's my memory at fault then I apologize. My memory of the comment I replied to didn't include the initial qualifying phrase with either word choice.
tzs•31m ago
> they may forbid using derivative works for commercial purposes

The most widely used definitions of “open source” do not allow such a prohibition.

stanac•4m ago
Yup, if we take OSI as defacto authority on open source definition

> 6. No Discrimination Against Fields of Endeavor

> The license must not restrict anyone from making use of the program in a specific field of endeavor. For example, it may not restrict the program from being used in a business, or from being used for genetic research.

https://opensource.org/osd

exo762•54m ago
Copyleft is still a thing. Right to attribution is still a thing. Please, read about it and you will discover that there is a lot of nuance to the open-source code.
samtheprogram•21m ago
It's really hard to not assume this is intentional ragebait.

A cursory look reveals they aren't complying. So, as you say, they are stealing. What's the point of this comment?

Sanzig•28m ago
Ideally yes, but we know people don't RTFA - there's a reason that initialism dates back to early Slashdot.

The paraphrase is doing a lot of heavy lifting to convert it to ragebait. Had the OP gone with something like "you didn't vibe code it, you plagiarized Papermark's open source project" (may need some editing to fit under the character limit) it would have at least been more true to the original tweet.

jknoepfler•17m ago
I know I RTFA, and I know I'm not interested in discussing things with people who don't. Maybe others feel differently, because more people is better or something. Information pollution is a serious, persistent, growing problem and I'm just not inclined to be tolerant about it anymore. Mistakes are one thing, deliberate stupidity is another.

If you come to book club without reading the book, and you derail the conversation into something completely irrelevant, you're not getting invited back.

brookst•28m ago
It’s an intentionally misleading title, using “you” to imply that the reader is guilty of theft.

An honest title would be “Corgi didn’t vibe code it, they stole Papermark’s AGPL code”.

Sure, people should read links, but when a writer posts ragebait for engagement, there’s plenty of blame to go around.

mmunj•23m ago
You’re giving me too much credit if you think i was being sensationalist and trying to make it more clickworthy, i couldnt succeed in that if i tried

I was mostly fighting the title character limit

panny•36m ago
Same thing https://githubcopilotlitigation.com/
pydry•23m ago
I remember a few cases when asking an LLM to do something in the early days yielded not only the code but an author and a COPYRIGHT license.

Naturally LLM technology has moved on since then. I don't remember any recent word for word reproductions of a copyright license.

There are a lot of people lauding the technology though because it occasionally one-shots a wildly impressive example of something which...already exists.

JackFr•32m ago
> FOSS licenses were obviously written in the spirit of sharing with humans.

That may be true, but I don't think it's obvious. What don't I know about the history of OSS?

brookst•24m ago
I’m old and I don’t recall FOSS being about truly free, truly open, just not for some categories of use.

In fact I seem to recall FOSS advocates denouncing licenses that put limits on who could use the software or for what purpose. This “it was always only for humans” take is new to me.

MPSimmons•15m ago
>written in the spirit of sharing with humans.

Not humans who are using AI tools?

josephg•38m ago
FOSS doesn't mean you give up all rights to your work. In this case, the software is AGPL licensed, which imposes huge list of requirements on copies - including attribution and sharing back changes.

FOSS != public domain.

unsungNovelty•22m ago
Yo! Open Source Software works within copyright law. Your software should comply with the OSS licence you are forking/redistributing from. If you don't comply, OSS freedoms are void and it defaults back to being copyrighted material for you. Comply with licences. And enjoy the freedoms. Otherwise, you are copying from a copyrighted material. Which is illegal. Comply or write it from scratch.

Or... Be nice and ask. People tell u what to do. Don't be rude here.

I remember this Video editor software which didn't comply properly with OSS licence of FFMPEG(?). And people told author what to do. It's always cheap to be kind. Or win dumb prizes.

tvbusy•13m ago
This person is so dangerous that if I offer them to stay in my shaded yard in the middle of the excruciating sun, they will demand that I let them take my house as well.