I think it was a fairly good take, including w.r.t. lobbying, if you are into it. I liked especially one of the takeaways:
"As such, we need to ask not only what research can do for policy but also what policy can do for research: What kind of research do we need and what kind of evidence do we want to develop?"
jruohonen•1h ago
"As such, we need to ask not only what research can do for policy but also what policy can do for research: What kind of research do we need and what kind of evidence do we want to develop?"