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Reef: Paste bash into fish. It just works

https://github.com/ZStud/reef
1•thunderbong•1m ago•0 comments

Can you rate my AI slop that I build for fun?:D

https://swipeitup.vercel.app/
1•RoastSlop•2m ago•0 comments

Update Your Secure Boot Cert Before It Expires

https://nochan.net/b/Internet-Crap/20260621-Update-Secure-Boot-Cert-Before-It-Expires/
1•Bender•3m ago•1 comments

Shard your locks: benchmarking 6 Golang cache designs

https://strebkov.dev/posts/shard-your-locks/
1•fanf2•3m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Adrafinil – keep a lid-closed Mac awake only while agents work

https://github.com/kageroumado/adrafinil
2•kageroumado•10m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Tickerstar – Instant SEC and company earnings summaries

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1•TickerStar•11m ago•0 comments

A Perfect Meritocracy Will Have Little Social Mobility

https://outlookzen.com/2026/06/27/a-perfect-meritocracy-will-have-little-social-mobility/
2•whack•13m ago•0 comments

What If a Man Practised Shooting a Million Times? Shot 90172, Football Progress [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CI9oUUnUzw0
2•mmarian•15m ago•0 comments

Check out the new US passport

https://mishtalk.com/economics/does-president-trump-have-any-idea-what-passports-are-for/
2•megamike•15m ago•0 comments

Mojo programming language will become open-source soon

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2•birdculture•17m ago•0 comments

Empero: A 9B that checks its own work

https://empero.org
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Show HN: Answer questions and see which countries share your personal values

https://jaylol.com/values-survey/
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V16 Engine, a mechanical simulation with sixteen synchronized pistons

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New York Housing Market suffers fatal news after Mamdani freezes rents [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5vBkoEvZN6s
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Art Is for Seeing Evil (2022)

https://thepointmag.com/examined-life/art-is-for-seeing-evil/
2•jger15•23m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Remote control for dev environment, not just agents

https://shellular.dev/
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Claude Ecosystem

https://claude.com/ecosystem
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GPT-5.6 Preview System Card

https://deploymentsafety.openai.com/gpt-5-6-preview
2•e2e4•28m ago•0 comments

A German AI publisher rewrites Hacker News posts and strips the sources

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2•chelm•29m ago•0 comments

GitHub DeepSeek-AI/DeepSpec

https://github.com/deepseek-ai/DeepSpec
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A Farmer Arrested for Going 5 Seconds over His Time Limit at Data Center Meeting

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10•spenvo•29m ago•4 comments

Recursive self improvement for human skills

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DIY your own open-source Robot Vacuum

https://twitter.com/dfrobotcn/status/2070852143964139763
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Voting with Feet

https://maxmautner.com/2026/06/25/voting-with-feet.html
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Videogenr.com

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1•kilincarslan•36m ago•2 comments

Open handoff: Thought Tree, a markup/spec idea for modular LLM workflows

https://github.com/RobertBateman/thoughttree-framework
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Quora and mass AI poisoning: An organized crime AI spam ring

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3•AndrewDucker•42m ago•1 comments

US Government allows Anthropic limited release of Mythos/Fable models

https://www.cnn.com/2026/06/26/tech/anthropic-mythos-release
1•alonp99•48m ago•0 comments

United Auto Workers Vote to Divest from Israel in Historic Victory – Truthout

https://truthout.org/articles/united-auto-workers-vote-to-divest-from-israel-in-historic-victory/
5•abdelhousni•54m ago•1 comments

Show HN: DiagramIDE – Diagrams as Source Files

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1•xlii•58m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Ships keep moving through Hormuz despite strike

https://www.lloydslist.com/LL1157680/Ships-keep-moving-through-Hormuz-despite-strike-and-suspension-of-IMO-exit-strategy
49•everybodyknows•1h ago

Comments

rayiner•57m ago
Nobody is talking about how big of a failure this has been on the part of the U.S. Navy. Controlling and securing shipping routes has been a fundamental function of a navy since Roman times. The U.S. Navy was unable to achieve that objective in this war. Ill-advised American wars often end up as losses because we fail to achieve our political objectives. But this may be one of the few times we have been unable to achieve a purely military objective.
ajmurmann•48m ago
It's pretty much impossible for a navy to secure a narrow strait like this. You need to control the land as well.

Sorry, it's a video but it does a fabulous job explaining this: https://youtu.be/khtWPycU-PA

It was never gonna work, but not because of the navy being weak.

pohl•48m ago
Part of that traditional naval success has come from having presidents not stepping on their own dicks.
spiderfarmer•41m ago
The US will never recover from the reputation damage they sustained by voting in a mindbogglingly stupid buffoon. Twice.
derwiki•29m ago
Memories are short. Neither Andrew Jackson nor Nixon improved the reputation of the US.
hammock•24m ago
In fact, their positive legacies are improving with time
scheme271•22m ago
Andrew Jackson was around 150+ years ago. Nixon was fairly competent diplomatically even if he was horrible domestically. Trump is a whole different breed that seems to switch his actions based on whim and who he spoke with last.
mixmastamyk•5m ago
I remember having to listen to a lot of shit about Dubya during my backpacking trips overseas not too long ago.
bulbar•21m ago
It's not only about reputation. Trump has been so obvious in his doing that the western world has started to define a new world order without the US in its center.
ngai_aku
mdp2021•47m ago
> unable to achieve

How much of it would you attribute to bad planning? (The full plan of which the Navy will be part.)

dragontamer•44m ago
Ehhhhh, not quite.

No matter how much military we put into the strait, Iran was just going to blow up UAE and Qatari refineries.

And despite all the madman theory of our current President, there's just too many bribes in those countries who have the attention of the President. So Total War is unacceptable to USA leaders.

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That being said: I'm still amused that the ship we needed in this fight was the long cancelled Littoral Combat Ship

nradov•30m ago
Cancelling the LCS construction program was the right move. There are still a number of hulls in commission and they have some utility as minesweepers, but can really only operate when the air threat has been neutralized. They have only limited defenses against drones and cruise missiles, and none at all against ballistic missiles. They're simply no longer survivable.
dragontamer•22m ago
I don't think Iran has homing ballistic missiles. Only maybe China has those. As such, the best defense vs ballistic threats is simply moving around, if they can't home then who cares?

I mean, buildings and hardened targets do care. But ships can just move and the missile will miss.

But yes, defenses vs Drones and Cruise missiles is more than sufficient vs Iran. And navigating narrow waters with higher degrees of mobility is better than our other ships.

2OEH8eoCRo0•43m ago
US leadership wasn't willing to pay the cost of opening the strait. I dont blame the navy.
echelon•40m ago
Drone warfare is new.

Now you can use a drone that costs a few thousand dollars to take out a hundred million dollar ship.

It's a pricing issue. Whereas before, you had to use expensive guided missiles or your own naval or air force assets, now you can send a bunch of cheap drones.

Everything we know about war is going to change.

fragmede•38m ago
> Everything we know about war ~~is going to~~ has changed.

FTFY

dragontamer•37m ago
Not new. These drones were in production in Iran since 2016 after the capture of the downed Reaper Drone in 2011.

What is new is Irans willingness to use them. Which skyrocketed after a few missiles assassinated their supreme leader.

ozim•21m ago
The part where you are wrong is not that reaper or other highly sophisticated drones were available in 2011.

In 2026 we have swarms of cheap drones that are fire and forget and they are cheap for mass production.

That’s totally different game.

bulbar•4m ago
So you are saying the US just showed to the world that it is not prepared for modern warfare?
einpoklum•32m ago
yogthos•36m ago
I expect this will be a far more consequential loss than Vietnam for the US in the long run. This has been a spectacular defeat and likely means the US will be forced to exit from the region because everybody can see now that American bases cannot be defended and they put countries hosting them at risk. This is a major geopolitical upheaval.
andriy_koval•36m ago
> Controlling and securing shipping routes has been a fundamental function of a navy

this function is outdated since u-boat appearance, and now cruise missiles and drones. More important modern function of navy is projecting power.

baq•26m ago
Submarines can be hunted (and are) and drones and cruise missiles can be shot down. These things are what navies are supposed to do nowadays. US Navy in particular has not read the memo for about 20 years.
andriy_koval•9m ago
the question how efficiently they can be hunted, if ROI is that high.
baq•5m ago
my best guess is any information on the topic is... classified
energy123•33m ago
Because it's not true. CENTCOM can reopen the strait whenever they want, but doing it is slow and expensive, so there is insufficient political will to do it. It's still a strategic defeat, but for different reasons than what you are saying.

Recommend studying the public comments of General MacKenzie who was the previous CENTCOM commander, comments from Admiral Cooper before he was appointed to current CENTCOM commander, or previous Joint Chiefs of Staff.

They've all given public interviews about Hormuz during the current war or before it over the last decade saying the same thing about what's required and whether it can be done.

petilon•24m ago
> doing it is slow and expensive, so there is insufficient political will to do it

So the US Navy is unable to achieve the objective in a reasonable timeframe and cost. That's the same as failure.

scotchmi_st•23m ago
Well sure, but everything short of committing the whole country to total war will always come down to “we could do it, it’s just too politically expensive”. Even in authoritarian countries, there is a limit to what you can get away with.

That “we could do it, we just don’t want to” argument will face its acid test later in the year when the midterms are closer, but certainly if I were in charge of Iran I’d be feeling pretty good about the current situation.

kadoban•22m ago
I assume you're talking about "slow and expensive" like sending tens of thousand of troops to occupy at _least_ the ~entire shore around the narrow part of the Strait, indefinitely?

Yeah, shocking there's no political will for that.

msabalau•33m ago
This is fundamentally a failure of political leadership. You don't try to achieve a goal when you don't have the military means to achieve at a cost you are willing to bear.

There are endless numbers of military objectives that the US military that could have been sent on where they would have had no chance to succeed. That they generally weren't is a function other administrations, however bad, not being so embarrassingly incompetent as this.

hammock•26m ago
You’re making an orthogonal point. His point was that regardless of political decision making, the US Navy has demonstrated an incapacity of controlling the Strait of Hormuz, which is bad
logicchains•13m ago
>at a cost you are willing to bear.

It's pure greed. The IRGC relies heavily on oil money for funding the massive militia (hundreds of thousands of Basij) that allows it to stay in power; if that income collapsed then it would eventually lose control. Trump however not only refused to bomb Iran's oil infrastructure but even stopped the IDF from doing so, just because he thinks he'll somehow be able to take that oil for himself and his cronies in future like he did in Venezuela.

CerebralCerb•32m ago
If the US wants to abdicate their position as a global hegemon of every waterway and trade route this seems like a good way to do it. The US is much less dependent on the Strait of Hormuz than its competitors.

Ten years down the line it may be the case that India will sail up and enforce toll-free waterways instead. That will never happen as long as the US puts up the resources for it. The American taxpayer will be better off if the burden of global free trade is borne more equitably.

bulbar•15m ago
It's not like the US did massive world wide power projection (capabilities) out of altruism. It's a necessity to project their political and economic demands.

If the US citizen think being a super power is to expensive, that's fine for the world. No empire lasts forever. The US can become an important regional power, having its destiny more influenced by the upcoming super powers that fill the vacuum.

vkou•32m ago
> But this may be one of the few times we have been unable to achieve a purely military objective.

The military objective can be achieved, it would just require the 'No New Wars' party to implode from having 272 seats to having ~150 seats after the midterms.

bulbar•9m ago
It's ironic that Vance and Co were bragging about "no more stupid rules of engagement" but then they effectively do the very same thing by not allowing boots on the ground for political reason.
drnick1•29m ago
> But this may be one of the few times we have been unable to achieve a purely military objective.

The U.S. has been secretly moving ships for months. And Iran no longer has any significant naval force, it's all been wiped out. What is difficult to completely stop, short of glassing the entire country, is harassment by drones or other forms of "asymmetric warfare."

dotancohen•24m ago
Then why is "glass the entire country" not an option? If the Iranians understand that continued attacks will result in a glassed Iran, would that not convince them to stop?

Why is attacking one's enemies suddenly controversial?

kadoban•19m ago
Yeah, why _is_ killing a ~hundred million people to satisfy the ego of a buffoon controversial?

HN sometimes poses really difficult questions.

scheme271•18m ago
I'm pretty sure that the reputational harms of using nuclear weapons on a country of 70M is going to be pretty severe. Surely you understand how starting a war with a country without sufficient cause and then using nuclear weapons on them might result in significant and very long lasting consequences?
RajT88•17m ago
I feel like they made a movie with Matthew Broderick explaining why this policy was bad...
justinator
stymaar•28m ago
> But this may be one of the few times we have been unable to achieve a purely military objective.

It has long been clear for any analyst that securing the straight without boots on the ground would be materially impossible. Air power isn't enough to stop the very modest force of the Houthis from closing the Bab-el-mandeb straight, it was clear from the beginning that it wouldn't work better against a much more capable Iran.

Trump launched a war without any plan, and absolutely no willingness to launch an full-scale invasion of Iran (rightly so, because it would have been unlikely to work well with regards to the polical goals), so it's not exactly surprising that it didn't work.

Starting a war is always a bad idea, even when you have bipartisan support for it at home, but starting a war you don't want to fight is absolutely dumb.

mannanj•27m ago
If the goal was to extract more tax dollars and drop them into the laps of rich socialites and their bourgeoise friends, then it succeeded.
40four•13m ago
Controlling the straight was never one of their objectives. Decapitating the regime and degrading their military capabilities was the primary objective.

As others have said, the US can “reopen” the straight at any time they want. It’s not an issue of capabilities. But it’s very resource intensive and very expensive.

The logistics of escorting ships in and out of the straight isn’t trivial. I forget the name of the operation, but they did implement it for a few days before shutting it down. Politically, I imagine it’s pretty hard to justify the cost /benefit

On the Iranian side it takes a very small amount of resources and logistics. All they have to do is project power, whether they have it or not, and the shipping & insurance industries have to respect it.

Drones are really cheap, and that’s about all it takes for Iran to leverage their influence over the straight. Which is kind of crazy when you think about it. But it’s about the only bargaining chip they have left and they aren’t going let go of it easily.

the_snooze•12m ago
>Decapitating the regime and degrading their military capabilities was the primary objective.

Those are tactical objectives, not strategic aims. The US is very good at winning tactically, but losing strategically. This is yet another example.

SilverElfin•55m ago
I think this is really because ship crews are abused and have no choice. The companies don’t have executives on ships. It’s some maritime crew, often from India, that’s told to just take the risk with their own lives. And if they want to keep their jobs they have to comply.
Swizec•49m ago
> And if they want to keep their jobs they have to comply.

Worse still, many mariners are effectively prisoners and can become trapped if corporate decides to cut them loose without also providing passage off the vessel

Stranded sailor allowed to leave abandoned ship after four years https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-56842506

Stuck at sea for years, a sailor’s plight highlights a surge in shipowner abandonment https://apnews.com/article/abandoned-seafarers-labor-unpaid-...

phildenhoff•31m ago
What would have happened, in that first story, if he had left the ship and swam to a passing boat? Or swam to shore? He was apparently able to leave as later in his imprisonment, the boat drift closer to shore and he swam from there. Why not just leave?
nradov•23m ago
Abandoned crew members often remain on the ship in the hope of eventually getting paid their overdue wages after the legal issues are sorted out. If they leave the vessel then that weakens their negotiating position.
zug_zug•52m ago
Interesting https://hormuzstraitmonitor.com/ says we're at 8% of normal traffic. Curious as to the discrepancy.
e9•40m ago
Probably because they turn off transponders while crossing that area.

"Traffic is generally picking up in the strait, with several laden tankers seen exiting into the Gulf of Oman over the weekend, though some of them turned off their transponders. The latest was a Greek-flagged tanker carrying Iraqi crude to Singapore."

https://financialpost.com/pmn/business-pmn/iranian-crude-oil...

Bender•38m ago
"Maintained by an individual developer." They state,

Maritime Intelligence — AI-powered analysis of current strait conditions, insurance markets, and diplomatic developments using real-time web data.

Energy Market Feeds — Live Brent crude oil pricing from financial data providers.

AIS Vessel Tracking — Automatic Identification System data for real-time vessel positions.

TradingView — Interactive historical oil price charts with full technical analysis capabilities.

News Aggregation — Curated news from major international outlets covering the Hormuz crisis.

though they do not say what the actual data sources are.

throwrioawfo•27m ago
Not sure I would put much faith in the stats of this clearly vibecoded slopsite
wartywhoa23•47m ago
Captain Blood surely couldn't imagine that corsairs of the future will use rocket-propelled, remotely controlled cannonballs that can fly from a location beyond the horizon.
einpoklum•37m ago
So, Trump claimed the closure and the attack "was a “foolish violation” of the ceasefire". However - that is not the case. The first and foremost item of the Iran-US MOU is the following:

1 — The United States of America and the Islamic Republic of Iran and their allies in the current war are signing this MOU to declare the immediate and permanent termination of military operations on all fronts, including in Lebanon, and undertake from now on not to initiate any war or any military operation against each other, and to refrain from the threat or use of force against each other, and ensuring the territorial integrity and sovereignty of Lebanon.

But Israel has continued to attack intensively in Lebanon, killing dozens (if not over 100 since the MOU was signed, not sure), and continues to have a sizeable invasion force in Lebanese territory. Lebanon was explicitly and specifically mentioned to stress its significance - it is the country suffering the most right now, with hundreds of thousands of internally displaced due to threats from the Israeli forces against the civilian population of the south.

With that being the case since day 1, the MOU cannot be said to have even gone into effect. Certainly, the closure of the straights should be seen in this light, rather than a violation.

timmg•32m ago
As I understand it, this has nothing to do with Lebanon.

It has to do with ships moving through the Oman side of the strait. Iran is unhappy with that, because the want to control all the movement through it.

dgellow•29m ago
At this point you can take any Trump claim as a lie until proven otherwise, it’s by far the best heuristic
nradov•26m ago
Iran never had the right to close the strait or attack neutral merchant ships exercising their right of innocent passage in the first place, regardless of anything that Israel or Lebanon does. The MOU doesn't change that.
JumpinJack_Cash•28m ago
It's about time to have a serious talk with the Saudis and redirect all that money that is being stupidly spent on all those vanity projects such as NEOM and The Line towards pipelines running through the Desert , end point the port of Yunbu & Jeddah and make the Strait of Hormuz irrelevant .

This is the quintessential American project, the U.S. has invented and developed the oil industry in Saudi. Saudi Aramco was originally Standard Oil Saudi Arabia.

I don't know why this hasn't happened during the last 40 years where Iran has always been an enemy, Saudi Arabia has always been an ally and the U.S. has always had enormous amount of access to the Kingdom for the purpose of building oil infrastructure.

logicchains•16m ago
Doesn't matter how many pipelines Saudi has when Iran could just bomb them and the refineries again. The best strategy would be for Saudi and the UAE to invest in mass drone production; drones are becoming like WMDs, and MAD will similarly apply. The IRGC is more dependent on oil revenue than Saudi and UAE, and relies on that money for funding the massive militia that allows them to stay in power, so they've got more to lose in an extended war of oil infrastructure destruction.
JumpinJack_Cash•7m ago
Ok let's say buried pipelines under the sand , it's the ideal insulant against the relatively low power of suicide drones.

Have you seen the amount of sand they displaced for the foundations of "the Line" project?

Let's say dig a hole in the desert build the pipeline and then cover it with 15ft of sand that you previously excavated , can't be that hard for a country that is boasting about building a 1mi tall skyscraper and a 100mi long 1000ft tall Line , or a floating NEOM city

The exception is that this project would actually have positive ROI .

I agree that the point of arrival of the pipelines would present a vulnerabily but look at the map , Jeddah is about 1000mi from Iran coast.

That buys you a lot of time and a lot of opportunities to intercept the drones

> > extended war of oil infrastructure destruction.

My point was that ingenuity could be used to avoid oil infrastructure destruction , which is not desirable anyways.

Your point is to get there via drone MAD. I don't think Saudi and Iran can be trusted with MAD

throwrioawfo•28m ago
It kinda makes sense, given the sheer magnitude of money on the line.
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5m ago
The same Nixon whom JD Vance praised yesterday and called a victim of a deep state witch hunt?
hamburglar•34m ago
Specifically, not overestimating their own abilities and thus biting off more than they can chew. “Stepping on their own dicks” is a superset that includes all sorts of buffoonery like constantly making empty threats and backing off, but the basic assumption that the US Military is flawless and omnipotent and we can act accordingly seems to be our most fundamental error.
Drone warfare may be new, but small-boat operations; Surface-to-Sea missiles; aquatic mines; and long-distance cannons - those are not new. And those are probably enough to effectively close down the straights. To do so, Iran does not need to defeat and sink the US Navy force; it needs to occasionally hit some ships running the blockade. We saw this with the Bab Al-Mandab blockade, beginning in 2024; Yemen's military is not nearly as powerful as Iran's, and still, ships started avoiding the Bab Al-Mandab, because a, what, 20%? chance of being hit and taken over or sunk, with some of the crew possibly taken prisoner, is not something one does if one can avoid it, for the price of a longer journey.
energy123•20m ago
You assumed wrong. Maybe listen to the interviews before responding with aggressive sarcasm.
kadoban•17m ago
It was an honest question.
energy123•9m ago
I would point you to Gen MacKenzie's interviews as the reference on that question, I would just be regurgitating his views.

He says that a sustained coastal invasion is not necessary. Raids would be necessary to destroy any buried weapons, but these troops wouldn't need to stay there.

Other than this you need more of what they were already doing, "shaping operations" as he calls it, which is ISR drones overhead and lots of bombing/strafing runs.

Eventually, because they don't have a remaining industrial base and cannot effectively replenish their stocks (excepting more simple one way attack drones), they will lack the ability to project enough power beyond their borders to keep the strait closed.

Operation Praying Mantis is a somewhat dated case study, but still required reading.

The reason it's so expensive should be more intuitively obvious - interceptors are expensive and are needed to pace China, and a few more months of closure is significant inflation before the midterms.

andriy_koval•5m ago
> Raids would be necessary to destroy any buried weapons, but these troops wouldn't need to stay there.

Shaheds can be launched from trucks from inside densely populated cities. Good luck with those raids.

> Eventually, because they don't have an industrial base and cannot effectively replenish their stocks

Modern drones are cheap and easy to assemble, Iran's allies (Russia, China) can easily smuggle them inside country.

cloche•19m ago
This sounds a lot like what some lazy people will say "I could be a doctor/astronaut/millionaire/movie star. I just don't want to"
fakedang•7m ago
The Vatican City could develop nuclear weapons whenever they want, but doing it is slow and expensive, so there is insufficient political will to do it.
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16m ago
If you will remember from a few months ago, many of our actions was apparrently to cause a revolution from within. That didn't happen.

We can't just change our strategy to "nvrmd: kill 'em all" and think we'll have any allies after this. Iran would once again not just attack us, but practically every country near it, causing even more causalities and infrastructure damage.

And this doesn't get into the problem that this would eventually require a land invasion, which would be impossible. We couldn't even get an actual war ship close to Iran.

There is a "Sunk Cost Fallacy" that someone in our Administration should listen to. Times up with this complete disaster.

ajsnigrutin•14m ago
Because all the american assets in countries around iran will be "glassed" too, like american bases are already. And then special forces deep in US will start "glassing" US infrastructure, power, water, logistics, etc. (It's not terrorism if you're in war, it's just special units behind enemy lines). Looking at eg. texas, it doesn't take a lot to bring the whole power grid down, especially if properly planned. If you bomb water supply facilities in eg. new york, how many people will you have to evacuate? How hard would it be for those special forces to start forest fires in california? Or poison food supply for the army? Or just bomb a random school in retaliation for the one you guys bombed in iran?

> Why is attacking one's enemies suddenly controversial?

Flying half the planet away to attack someone who in no way endangers you is controversial... it took a few years of vietnam war for americans to figure it out and a few decades to forget it all again and now you're repeating it against a stronger adversary. It's no wonder most of the world hates americans.

edit: looking at his comment history, commenter above me seems to be from israel, not US, but same applies to them too, with the exception of having to ask trump (and the brits and others) for help when iran fights back.

cloche•14m ago
It's attacking civilians that's controversial.
thecrash•8m ago
Attacking civilians has always been "controversial". As a civilian myself, I would be pretty worried if this changed.
creato•45m ago
I would think that the shipping executives are less willing to take the risk to run the strait than the crews are. Being stuck for months with very little freedom, uncertain future, uncertain supplies, missiles and drones flying overhead, it sounds like hell.
justinator•43m ago
Not to say you're wrong, but I got a different impression from this report:

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/05/29/podcasts/the-daily/iran-s...

From this report, I'm getting the feeling that they're running out of time to just float around and it's now or never.

tyfon•39m ago
This big question now is how many of them will travel back in there and potentially being stuck for months, or just swap ship if their current ship is headed there.
alkonaut•31m ago
But who insures the ship and its cargo? And what's the premium? No one cared about sailors before either. But if the ship sinks then you cash out from Lloyds. But if the risk premium increases by a lot, then that adds to the cost of the cargo.

And eventually it's just not worth transiting the strait no matter how "open" it's claimed to be, if there are still unacceptable risks.

nradov•20m ago
All of the major maritime insurers will issue war risk policies at a small premium over the usual rates. This isn't anything new. Back during the Iran-Iraq war both sides were hitting tankers occasionally but insurers wrote policies and the oil continued to flow.
tedd4u•18m ago
Try this WTO site instead. It breaks out oil, natural gas, fertilizer, and agricultural products with 7-day average and prior-year 7-day average.

https://datalab.wto.org/Strait-of-Hormuz-Trade-Tracker

thisislife2•17m ago
The terms of the recent US-Lebanon-Israel agreement guarantees a future civil war in Lebanon that will further destabilise it for the benefit of Israel. Apparently, Israel has to vacate the Lebanese territories it recently captured and occupies only when the Lebanese army manages to fully "disarm" and "demilitarise" Hezbollah (with some support from the Israel military).