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The bottleneck might be the air in the room

https://blog.mikebowler.ca/2026/07/03/co2-and-decision-making/
71•gslin•1h ago

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kennywinker•53m ago
> You gather your most expensive people into a room to make your most important decisions.

A terrible way to make decisions.

sixtyj•37m ago
What should be a better way?
217•40m ago
i love seeing things i saw on twitter two years ago at the front page of hn man like what are we doing
keiferski•39m ago
Yet another reason to have meetings while walking outside: air quality and a natural limit on time, and the mental benefits that come from movement.
sapiogram•28m ago
Requires an area around your office that isn't ugly or overrun with cars.
gostsamo•21m ago
requires that everyone is comfortable walking and has no physical impairments.

Not to talk about the weather either.

gpt5•36m ago
I really wish a Apple or another major OEM would integrate CO2 monitor into watches or smartphones. Suddenly, everybody would be aware of the CO2 level in the room, get alerts, etc. and the problem will just solve itself.

There are so many rooms, classrooms, movie theaters and other places with poor ventilation where you just feel dizzy, or fall asleep, not knowing it was just due to lower oxygen levels in your blood. Raising awareness is the only real solution.

scoot•16m ago
Apple watches already have a blood-oxygen sensor so it's covered, albeit indirectly.
throwaway81523•35m ago
Don't forget too, if the CO2 is 1000 ppm, then half of the air in each breath you inhale was recently exhaled by someone else. Yes, airborne viruses are still spreading. I still wear an N95 mask whenever I'm in an indoor space with other people outside of home.

IKEA now has a remarkably cheap ($35) air quality monitor that measures CO2 as well as PM:

https://www.ikea.com/us/en/p/alpstuga-air-quality-sensor-sma...

I don't have one yet but plan to pick one up soon. A CO2 sensor alone from Adafruit is $50+, though that one is more precise. I bought it a while ago and it's still sitting in my todo bin.

bebe9494i4•16m ago
I do not give a damm about masks, but yet another reason to prefer work from home.

Flu and other air transmited diseases should be treated as a workplace injury, with proper compensation!

a1371•33m ago
The building science community has not buy and large came to the agreement that the CO2 itself is the cause of the cognitive decline. It could be the Canary in the coal mine telling us there is an accumulation of compounds causing the decline.

Why that matters? You need good ventilation regardless, but instead of just thinking of CO2, try to minimize compounds in your air by selecting things for the room that smell less and off-gas less.

jwpapi•28m ago
Buying one of these gadgets killed my brain fog
Tossrock•27m ago
Submarines operate in the 1000s of PPM CO2 range and the sailors aboard generally do not experience any ill effects. This was tested and no deficits were found even at 15,000 PPM: https://asma.kglmeridian.com/view/journals/amhp/89/6/article...
brookst•20m ago
Though that study included a 45 minute acclimation period. Appropriate for submarines, but I wonder what the results would be in the first 1 / 5 / 10 minutes.
Robin_Message•11m ago
If that study was of submariners, is it possible long-term high-level exposure causes the body to adapt?

I am suspicious of 0.1% having a significant effect though, given oxygen is around 20% and we naturally exhale a couple of percent CO2.

culturestate•8m ago
One key difference is that submariners are rigorously trained to operate effectively in less-than-optimal environmental conditions, whereas Bob from accounting probably is not.
deanc•24m ago
I’m not saying this isn’t a legitimate concern but this really seems to have exploded amongst the tech community as the next obsession.

I see this pop up on X every few weeks. Is the concern about this really based on actual science? Is there empirical data proving people are less productive or are damaging themselves as a result of heightened CO2 levels? And I don’t mean observational epidemiology studies.

kashishgrover•4m ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Nh_vxpycEA
sixtyj•21m ago
A lot of CO2 is bad for thinking.

CO2 is just a tip as office or home is toxic environment anyway. Plastic (e.g. carpets), formaldehyde in furniture, air fresheners… add home office and cooking at home (-> small carcinogenic particles)…

If you start reading How not to die by Michael Greger, you find out that dust, soda and sitting - not CO2 - are real killers…

It's similar to how people think sharks and airplanes are the biggest killers - when in reality it is coconuts, mosquitoes, and motorcycles.

_def•15m ago
How do you avoid/reduce exposure to dust? Genuine question
throw-the-towel•10m ago
Use an air purifier, wear a respirator outside if you live in a polluted place.
Dove•9m ago
Air filters, decluttering, regular deep cleaning, replacing dust-friendly surfaces and furniture (such as carpet, drapes, and upholstered sofas) with things like wood, vinyl, or leather. HVAC maintenance, cleaning, and filters. Washable allergen covers for things like pillows and mattresses.
hobofan•6m ago
HEPA-filter air purifier and a robot vacuum that is scheduled to run while your are not in the apartment (to reduce baseline dust) are probably the most simple/cost-effective measures.
bebe9494i4
_def•17m ago
> Then, somewhere in the second hour, the room quietly gets worse at making them.

Maybe it's not just the air but also the multi-hour meetings that drive people to a sense of "oh god let this finally end now", which leads do decisions that fall short.

Scroll_Swe•14m ago
I am able to open the windows at home and at work but have to be reminded to air out, but I always feel much clearer when I do.

Also, take walks. I am lucky to be able to walk to and from work and it helps immensely.

oasisbob•13m ago
There needs to be a meter for the amount of AI writing in blogposts. Same physics, same climb, same afternoon fog.
stavros•4m ago
Yeah, it's really tiring reading Claude's output all day, every day. Nowadays I yearn for a different style.
kashishgrover•9m ago
Oh this is absolutely so relevant and I wonder if there are any high quality studies that have analyzed driving performance against CO2 buildup in cars. Cars often ship with circulate air feature in the aircon, and people use it aggressively, nonchalantly at least where I live, having no idea about the dangers of possible hypoxia and sleepiness that might be inducing in them while driving. It is absolutely critical in my opinion for cars to have CO2 monitors. We put so many sensors in cars these days that this seems to be a really cheap and fairly high value of life addition that could possibly prevent accidents on roads. I keep a portable CO2 sensor in my car at all times, because sometimes circulation is not something I can avoid when stuck in traffic or when passing by a drain.
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14m ago
My previous employer had dogs shit on carpets, without proper desinfection! Just smearing excrements into carpet, waiting for it to dry out, so it can go airborne!

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