https://dev.meta.ai/docs/getting-started/pricing-rate-limits
If they have a really good model, it makes sense to subsidise it, to gain users, before they align prices with competitors.
- Chinese models
- Grok
- Meta
- OpenAI
- Anthropic
I think this is a win. I'm building like crazy to take advantage of all these subsidized tokens while I can.
On the one hand, because it is easy to build products, more and more people will build. And more and more products and features will be built. However, a lot of people who are non-technical will also try to build, but they get stuck, and then they will need engineers. The sheer volume of product built by both experienced technical companies and non-technical novice startups and founders and wannabe founders is going to be massive. That is the bull case for having more software engineers needed in the near future.
On the other hand, in a year or so, people will build all these products, and most of them won't be able to market them, sell them and make money. Eventually, there won't really be a need for that many software engineers.
I think overall the bull case is probably going to win net net.
And those people won't need to be software engineers.
> but they get stuck, and then they will need engineers
You've implicitly assumed here that the AI systems will always be worse than the average engineer. That is IMO myopic. I'm not sure that it's even true now let alone in the nebulous future.
Let's see how it does on the Creative Writing bench ;)
What kind of use case would be best for that shape?
I for one am really glad to get competitive models that will push the major labs to bring prices down. While Chinese open source labs are also great, unfortunately when it comes to US/Western political pressure it won't often have as much of a bearing on labs bringing prices down, especially for enterprises.
Also if these numbers are true, this is truly breaking ground finally for Meta.
what advantage does this give them? is it really that hard to add github or google login options there?
I’m “seeing” more devs stepping into the SendCutSend stage where they’re cleaning up/fixing/productizing vibe coded projects so maybe there will be some new demand in that space?
I think for a lot of type of software we have now reached peak employment.
Someone payed a few k just for a normal website.
- DeepSeek
- GLM (Z.ai)
- Minimax
- Kimi (Moonshot)
- Hy3 (Tencent)
- Qwen (Alibaba)
(Each one of these with weights available to download and run locally)
No wonder we still can’t get climate change under control
I do not know if competition is good, we will see in a few years.
Looking forward having a physical job for a change :D
Bug diagnostics is about being okay at coding but better at tooling.
Given a good diagnostic report, it can be handed to opus for the fix.
Opus is okay at writing reports, but it still regularly gets table widths wrong in typst documents, leaving the last column full of text but only a handful of characters wide.
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