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‘Asia's cleanest village’ bans tourists on Sundays

https://www.bbc.com/travel/article/20260625-why-asias-cleanest-village-bans-tourists-on-sundays
54•gmays•2h ago

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nelox•1h ago
Ah the age old story of something being loved to death.
rayiner•1h ago
> In a country known for its lack of sanitation, this is no small feat. But in Mawlynnong, children are taught to tidy up from a young age, with many taking to the streets each morning before school to sweep the town of dead leaves and empty rubbish bins. Villagers see to the disposal of biodegradables and take pride in public landscaping.

Culture is real.

hn_throwaway_99•42m ago
This is kind of fascinating to me because the few times I visited India I was completely gobsmacked by the insane levels of trash and pollution such that I never wanted to return. Like Gurugram reminded me of some type of ecological disaster dystopia out of Blade Runner. So I was particularly glad to see this story was about an Indian village and not one of the usual "amazingly clean Asian city" suspects, e.g. Singapore or somewhere in Japan.
geodel•17m ago
Yes, on one hand its fascinating, on other its about impossible before end of universe that it would be possible to apply India wide. Right on with Gurugram observation. The latest government way to fix all issue is to change name of the place to something from "glorious Indian past".

In terms of actually responding to eco-disaster I don't think people are there yet to see error and mend their ways. I do not expect this to change at least for next couple of decades.

doublerabbit•1h ago
> Do not spit" signs

> Some tourists have complained about the ban, saying it should have been implemented on a weekday instead

These should not be a thing. What is it that makes folk feel so entitled?

"Lack of litter bins"; isn't an excuse. I've seen folk stand next to a litter bin, light up and then throw the cigarettes end to the ground.

You're literally standing next to a litter bin!

It should be common sense not to spit nor to litter. Spitting is the worse and I see it all the time here in the UK.

fhdkweig•1h ago
It really bothers me when they spit on days where it is below freezing. It becomes a slip hazard on sidewalks.
tekla•56m ago
Its so mindboggling. Littering wssnt even an option in my head as a child. Always carry your trash until you can properly dispose.

What the hell is wrong with people?

sysworld•45m ago
Same here. I find it hard to understand people who litter.
foxglacier•48m ago
How do you reconcile you complaint about complaining about the tourist ban with the Universal Declaration of Human Rights which says people have the right to freedom of movement within the borders of each state?
doublerabbit•
kristopolous•55m ago
Cleaner than Japan? That's something...
fhdkweig•27m ago
cleaner than Singapore or Thailand would really be something.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chewing_gum_sales_ban_in_Singa...

jazzpush2•49m ago
Reading the title generates imagery of a city in Japan being overrun by foreigners.

The actual content is about a self-proclaimed 'Asia's cleanest village' in India, banning Sunday visits from other domestic Indians.

Probably wouldn't be a popular story if this was revealed in the title.

scythe•32m ago
On the contrary, my first thought upon reading the title was "I hope it's not just Japan again". No disrespect to Japan, but articles about Japanese tidiness are a dime a dozen.
tom_•13m ago
The article is on the BBC site, so Asia means India/Pakistan/Bangladesh/etc.

Japan is Japan.

angry_octet•38m ago
It should be clear that this is about the stress that visiting Indians bring. And their trash.

But it also highlights how you need to restrict access to move up the value chain. Hordes of bus tourists who eat elsewhere or bring take away contribute little economically, you can sell some trinkets. People with a hotel booking are also likely to eat locally.

Venice faces a similar situation with cruise ships and Airbnbs raising the price of housing. They should be capping cruise ship numbers, and a weekend break would be good too.

nsvd2•6m ago
Surely a tax would be a better incentive mechanism than a hard cap.
skeledrew•36m ago
> But in Mawlynnong, children are taught to tidy up from a young age

This needs to be a thing everywhere. Education works to resolve most - if not all - social issues.

zuzululu•31m ago
I hate it when they keep bundling India into "Asia"

There's also a weird movement to call Indians as "Asians" outside the UK

It's very unpleasant like there's no way this village would compete with any of Japan's and that murks the line between "Asia" which should include Israel and Australia as well so it doesn't make sense why they keep pushing this narrative with India

Sleaker•22m ago
Huh? South-asia is more than just india. Just like all of the other cardinal directions that refer to different geographical regions within asia. Why can't it be a part of Asia?
bhelkey•18m ago
What continent is India in? What continent is Australia in?
laughing_man•17m ago
India is literally part of Asia. How else would you describe it?
AlotOfReading•6m ago
I prefer Asia maximalist perspective: France is West Asia.
socceroos•26m ago
I am in no way surprised to see that the village is Christian.

Christ is, after all, a transforming force on the heart and mind.

HDBaseT•19m ago
By no means correlated.
autoexec•9m ago
Wikipedia says that Budapest is home to one of the most populous Christian communities in Central Europe and it's considered to be one the most dirty places on Earth. Rome is often called Europe's dirtiest cities. Also Christian. Either Christ failed there, or religion has nothing to do with it.
atourgates•23m ago
More accurately, "bans day trippers on Sundays."

> Visitors who book guesthouse rooms in Mawlynnong through Saturday and Sunday are exempt from the Sunday ban.

45m ago
Nothing is stopping you from travelling within the borders. A village is nothing more than a province within the state.

If the law ruled: "you may not traverse through the state on Sundays"; then one could argue that is a breach of human rights.

However the last time I checked detours exist thas enabling you to pass around the village which may be closed on Sundays.

If you're a tourist and a village says no, why can't you obey that, why does that upset you?

weikju•28m ago
Does that Declaration give you an inalienable right to do anything you please? I doubt it. As the old saying goes, your freedom stops where someone else’s freedom starts.

Or in Seinfeld speak, “we live in a society!!!”

Have to consider others not just oneself. That’s the price of freedom and being responsible about it.

The alternative is a nanny state or anarchy.

mc32•42m ago
What in hell? I haven’t seen or heard people spit on sidewalks other than some homeless people in ages.

In parts of Asia where people chew betel nut, of course that’s a different story -they put the old west custom of spitting tobacco chew to shame.

rayiner•41m ago
Its rooted in culture and how people are socialized to relate to public spaces and the people around them. Here’s Lee Kuan Yew talking about the same problem he faced in Singapore at first: https://medium.com/@barronqasem/the-moral-behind-lee-kuan-ye... (“The difficult part was getting the people to change their habits so that they behaved more like first world citizens, not like third world citizens spitting and littering all over the place.”).

I only really have experience with Americans and Bangladeshis, but in my experience Americans are Nazis about littering and recycling. I was talking with a law school professor once after class and dropped a diet coke bottle into the trash in front of her. Without missing a beat she reached into the trash bin to take it out and threw it into the recycling bin.

triceratops•15m ago
> in my experience Americans are Nazis about littering and recycling

I don't know about that. I've seen many a poorly sorted recycle bin in my life. Americans are definitely in the upper quartile, maybe even the upper decile, of the world as a whole. Among the developed world the country may be just about average.

I believe glass recycling is segregated by color in some countries in Europe. And they take that really seriously.

boc•4m ago
American recycling in a lot of major cities is single-stream - aka you put all recycling together and a central plant sorts it for you. More efficient, more accurate, and it encourages more people to recycle since it's extremely easy.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-stream_recycling

arijun•14m ago
> stand next to a litter bin, light up and then throw the cigarettes end to the ground.

If the litter bin doesn’t have an ashtray (like most in the US), maybe they were worried about starting a trash fire?

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