Same thing happening with "datacenters will destory the world because of their water use" BS
They are supposed to verify that before they place the trade and generally do follow the rules. Because if they don’t, they will be not allowed to allow any short sales for that security.
So guessing they are shorting for this event
Goldman Sachs, Morgan Stanley, BoA, ect are the ones who set the IPO lockup terms based on their risk and exposure post IPO.
Indexes, exchanges, underwriters, ect are all private institutions who mostly can and do set their own rules.
https://www.bloomberg.com/opinion/newsletters/2026-07-16/sho...
Right now, SpaceX has provided 639 million shares to trade. People want more.
In a month, there will be 1,583 million shares to trade.
But right now, there are actually 820 million shares to trade: the 639 million provided by SpaceX, plus another 181 million provided by short sellers.This was just a bag drop on retail and trying to force it into retirement funds proves it.
SpaceX stock erases all its gains and slides below IPO price in intraday trading
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48933344
SpaceX bond worth 10% less than issue price – heading for junk bond status
He has a malignant narcissist’s distorted grasp of time: any future he promises is always nearer than is plausible, but the past is never finalised.
> So there's as many people betting the stock will go up.
The first sentence is a useful reminder, but second has a error: A single person can have multiple bets, and not all bets are the same volume.
For example, Alice has a budget of $10 and believes the coin-flip will land Heads. Alice makes a $5 wager with Bob and a $3 wager with Carol and a $2 wager with Dan. The equilibrium is in money, rather than opinion-havers.
As index funds they were forced to buy. Forced. They are not taking any view. No view.
himata4113•1h ago
hattmall•1h ago
kirubakaran•1h ago
What a weird way for them to say "we don't know"! It's like saying this house has 0 to 100 bathrooms.
hattmall•45m ago
PaulDavisThe1st•35m ago
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AviationAtom•59m ago
rconti•35m ago
> "I think it could be half over the course of the year," Noble said, adding that he believes a fair value for the shares is around $30, implying a decline of roughly 78% from current levels.
AviationAtom•31m ago
mattas•2m ago
Where it gets fun is that: (1) we have people selling $100 bills for more than $100 and, (2) we have people gladly buying $100 bills for more than $100.
downrightmike•1h ago
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ryandvm•49m ago
mikeryan•1h ago
Particularly once it gets past the lockup period. If I had to guess I say a lot of folks are thinking a lot of people will sell post lock up and they’re timing their shorts around that date.
anthonj•1h ago
dofm•27m ago
Basically an IPO is a bad bet for a five year position. But SPCX is especially bad.
mrweasel•48m ago
However it's not going up and later this month the first lockup period ends and people who got stock options are allowed to sell some of their stocks. These people don't care if the price is $134 or $135, because they go in much much lower, down to $30, from what I can tell. So starting this month there's going to be new shares available to buy, and the sellers are less critical of the price your offering.