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OpenAI and Anthropic unite against open-weight AI risks to their bottom line

https://www.axios.com/2026/07/22/openai-anthropic-open-models-trump-china
80•yogthos•49m ago

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Havoc•41m ago
This feels like the US is going to take a page from Europes book and regulate itself into uncompetitiveness
close04•37m ago
Except without any of the benefits of regulation to its citizens.
testfrequency•32m ago
Exactly.

Europe regulates to protect humanity.

USA regulates to protect monopolies and political power

embedding-shape•14m ago
The point of regulation in Europe is usually to protect people. Regulation in the US seems to be done with the purpose of protection companies. I'm not 100% sure, but this feels non-ideal for most people.
Sharlin•10m ago
To take the point further, the US still protects people. It's just that the people tend to exclusively inhabit the top 0.1% or 0.01% quantiles.
baxtr•1m ago
You mean like Chat Control 2.0 by which ordinary people are targeted and politicians are exempt from?
watwut•2m ago
The winning monopolies and CEOs seem to be intent into turning into some kind of techno fascists feudalism with the most corrupt government on earth, uncontrollable start the war machine and increasingly less and generally destroying democracy.

So, I am not sure it is such a win. These guys seem to be winning.

wolttam•24m ago
No way this can go wrong for the U.S. economy! Do everything you can to protect the existing incumbents, pay no mind to the wider consequences.

Winning strategy.

embedding-shape•15m ago
Clearly worked for Oracle and Intel, who are still making their executives rich. What do you mean "average person", who gives a fuck about those?
telep-io•13m ago
Doesn't help how the us gov is saying Kimi 3 stole IP of Fable even though it's not possible to distill Fable in 1 month.
echelon•12m ago
That's wild. It was only 15 days. It would have been impossible to gather enough data AND clean it up AND train AND do post training in just 15 days.
AJRF•23m ago
Who is in charge of AI strategy for the US? They are doing a terrible job!
derwiki•17m ago
Cynically: someone who is just fully deferring to Claude or ChatGPT

More cynically: someone directly in the pocket of OpenAI

yogthos•15m ago
and probably holding stocks in these companies
iugtmkbdfil834•23m ago
You know what? That is fine based merely on recent openai/hugginface incident ( after all, they needed open weights model to actually troubleshoot it, because 'safe' one did not let em ).

Let it all burn:D

edit:

And lets hope we learn a lesson.

rogerrogerr•17m ago
They also could have used their brains.
iugtmkbdfil834•7m ago
I laughed, because it absolutely is an option and I dont see it happen.
sschueller•11m ago
> And lets hope we learn a lesson.

That is the last thing that will happen. We don't seem to ever learn a lesson.

echelon•9m ago
I would rather we not lose the AI race so idiotically.

Winning the AI race means letting OpenAI and Anthropic face market forces.

Edit: Clearly other companies are doing well. ElevenLabs, Runway, FAL, RunPod, CoreWeave, Lambda, BaseTen, Lovable. These are real companies that didn't raise absurd amounts of capital. They've grown revenues at a solid clip, provide real value, and didn't go off the deep end with fundraising.

rkozik1989•6m ago
How are we winning? Nobody has actually created a business model that works yet. Just because you can hemorrhage hundreds of billions of dollars to build the most performant model doesn't necessarily mean you're going to make your money back.
northernsausage•20m ago
The other 95.8% of the world has entered the chat.
sschueller•4m ago
The US will try to force Europe to implement such restrictions as well.
echelon•14m ago
Fuck these two companies.

Fuck Sam and Dario.

These fucking assholes want to selfishly sink our country and our competitiveness because their valuations are tied to a thin little moat, and they moronically raised way too much capital. They think regulation can save them, when in actuality it will doom all of us.

Go to hell, OpenAI and Anthropic.

Call your senators right now.

sschueller•2m ago
The problem isn't only them, it's all the greedy investors and enablers around them thinking they can hold the potato just long enough to enrich themselves before the whole things explodes. The "enablers" are the real problem and this is why Elon is still not behind bars.
throwa356262•13m ago
"Why it matters: ...

The big picture: ...

Zoom in:...

Zoom out:..."

I wonder if they used an American or Chinese LLM to write this article?

ForHackernews•9m ago
Nah, that's Axios house style for their readership of extremely busy/important illiterates.
throwa356262•2m ago
You are right, all their recent articles are written this way :(

Still, if feels very LLM-y with their short sentences, definitive statements and a love for lists when none is needed.

On the other hand, maybe Axios was such dominant component in the training dataset that now every LLM speaks like this...

lantry•6m ago
I think axios has always used this style
andy99•1m ago
Yeah this makes it unreadable for me, immediately distracted by how stupid it is and lose interest in the article. As someone else noted, it’s people who think they are writing for an “executive” audience that have never been within 100 feet of an executive.
randomname4325•9m ago
Ironic that US companies are monopolistically pushing FUD for regulation and China is pushing open source to the world. How the tables have turned. The reality is the AI trade and "bubble" is masking an otherwise flat, inflated economy. History tells us that the US position doesn't end well.
mosura•8m ago
The fact these two cos are bleating about this while having built their empires on IP theft is just insane.

They act like people don’t see it and then wonder why there might be any resentment towards AI companies.

I am pro AI but there has long been a cultural problem with mercenary attitudes in the big data/ML and now AI world of which this is just the latest most extreme manifestation.

seydor•7m ago
This is so boring, it's like the tarriffs on chinese EVs.
abroszka33•4m ago
There is nothing these big tech companies hate more than competition. It took Google, Apple and M$ long long time to establish their monopolies. OpenAI and Anthropic are trying to speed run it.
stego-tech•2m ago
And to think I got warned in another post that I need to be nicer/more professional in discussing this topic.

Yeah. Nah.

Bringing out the same drum I’ve been banging for years now, these companies have never actually cared about ensuring safe AI, regulation, or ensuring it benefits all humanity. It has always, always, been about control and their profit margins. Their actions have never reflected any sort of positive, shared human benefit since OpenAI released ChatGPT, and they’ll never actually provide said shared benefit when it comes down to benefitting everyone versus benefitting themselves.

The technology is built off wholesale theft of protected works without compensation; at least China gives most of those models back, for free, in the form of open-weights.

It’s the Princess Bride meme but for AI: “you’re trying to take what I’ve rightfully stolen!” I’m tired of having to put on some sort of mask of decency and professionalism to discuss a topic whose counterparty gets to wallow in toxic waste without recourse, and these sorts of stories only reinforce that despite being a glib jerk about it, I’m still on the high road, here.

More folks should join us in open mockery of hypocritical whinging from technological robber barons.

jerrythegerbil•2m ago
This AI generated article about closed-weights model providers collaborating for additional scrutiny of open weights models, where the article itself has the tell-tale structure of being written by Claude Opus, which is aware it is a closed-weight model.

Thank goodness no one is taking any of this seriously, because it could never be anything more than a machine generated hatchet job.

A faster and better educated understanding of the subject matter could be achieved by standing in front of a wood chipper and dropping a brick in it to see what happens. “Yes, there were results! But why? Why to literally every variable involved?”

mlok•2m ago
OpenAI vs. Open AIs

I knew this would happen someday.

hmokiguess•1m ago
That's what you get living on borrowed time. The entire thing started off with the wrong foot, using copyrighted and licensed work without attribution followed by a nonsensical illusion of "fair play" because you wanted to win. This is just one way where the moat will fall, the next wave will be when consumer and local inference catches up.
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