As of JDK 27, Oracle engineers will thus stop maintaining the macOS/x64 port

https://openjdk.org/jeps/541

58•pmg1991•59m ago

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lekevicius•54m ago

Totally makes sense, macOS Golden Gate will no longer run x64 apps.

Lammy•52m ago

Making e-waste is cool because Apple say so, and they are very rich so anything they do is obviously a good idea.

datakan•50m ago

What e-waste would you be referring to?

outworlder•48m ago

Probably due to the fact that older machines won't get updates

joshl32532•43m ago

It's still functional and will get security updates, no? No reason to throw it away?

fsiefken•46m ago

There is still Linux and/or OpenJDK to run on intel or powerpc macs

flohofwoe•20m ago

FWIW old Macs (I have a 2014 MBP still lying around) still boot up and work, they just don't get the latest OS updates anymore.

DJBunnies•20m ago

Lighten up, friend. Oracle dropping Java support does not an e-waste make.

jherskovic•38m ago

This keeps getting posted and is not true. Rosetta is still present and working. It throws a deprecation warning notice but otherwise runs fine.

It's macOS 28 that will no longer run x86_64 apps, although games are exempt. Rosetta is basically going game only at that point. They haven't announced how long it will keep working in this capacity.

Teever•18m ago

Have they announced how they’re going to make it game only? A whitelist based on a hash of the executable? That seems cumbersome.

klausa•14m ago

The basic answer is ability to run x86_64 will still be there, but the system frameworks (apart from like OpenGL shims etc.) will no longer be shipped with x86_64 slices.

spullara•52m ago

seems very reasonable to me

mark_l_watson•45m ago

That sounds reasonable, Intel Macs aren't much used anymore.

kalleboo•39m ago

I'm curious if there are any decently representative use share stats out there for Mac Intel vs ARM. I tried finding some a while ago and found nothing really conclusive (mostly for niches like developer tools or games - what's the long tail look like?).

brcmthrowaway•36m ago

Browser communites would have this, no?

kalleboo•28m ago

All the Mac browsers report as Intel even on Apple Silicon to reduce fingerprinting/avoid being detected as PowerPC

flohofwoe•24m ago

Browsers stopped reporting "real" user agents a long time ago as fingerprinting protection.

inigyou•17m ago

Firefox reports correctly.

flohofwoe•12m ago

shevy-java•38m ago

Wasn't Java once a "write once, run everywhere"? Not that this affects me personally (I use Linux primarily; and have a Win10 machine for testing on my left hand side here), but it seems strange that Oracle supports fewer operating systems rather than more. Perhaps Oracle aims for a windows11-only Java version ... where everyone must verify his or her age.

pjmlp•34m ago

It is open source, anyone is free to send patches, given that OpenJDK is like Linux distros.

avalys•25m ago

Apple no longer supports this platform. There is no reason to target it for new releases. Java is not abandoning MacOS.

iSnow•21m ago

It's only Java on macOS for x64 that gets dropped. Java on Apple's M-type CPUs will still be alive and kicking.

bananamogul•16m ago

"a Win10 machine for testing on my left hand side here..."

Well, the Latin word for "left" is "sinister", so that tracks.

amiga386•36m ago

If this is as stated, then Oracle will still offer macOS/x64 ports of Java 11 LTS, Java 17 LTS, Java 21 LTS and Java 25 LTS.

Java 25 LTS was released last year. All these LTS versions are still receiving updates. You'll only be in trouble if you need some new feature of Java that will only begin to exist in JDK 27 or later, but want to run on macOS/x64.

splix•32m ago

I guess I'm the only one who is still on x64. I don't like I'm pushed to migrate only because the software wants that, otherwise the hardware works with no problem.

teaearlgraycold•30m ago

Can you run Linux?

splix•20m ago

Why? I can upgrade, that's not a problem. I'm just saying macOS works fine so far, almost all of the software works too. But I see increasing amount of announcements like this one suggesting that I'll have to replace hardware to get the latest versions. So I guess I will do that only to be able to use that software, not to get better performance.

ktm5j•19m ago

Well Apple isn't making amd64 systems anymore, so software support will naturally start to waver.

splix•14m ago

What I wanted to say that I don't like exactly that. The hardware is fine, but software is not.

afavour•12m ago

> I'll have to replace hardware to get the latest versions

Or switch software. Windows will run via Boot Camp and depending on your hardware Linux might work too.

bananamogul•17m ago

Ten minutes later, I'm still trying to figure out the role of "thus" in this headline.

ajkjk•15m ago

I like it. Bring back thus as a normal word. Also thusly.

ZiiS•7m ago

The phrases is taken from the email. Apple stopped ... thus Oracle ...

radicality•6m ago

I think it’s clear from the “Motivation” section, as it’s actually preceded by another sentence there.

> Apple has transitioned its hardware products to the AArch64 processor architecture and is phasing out support for x64. Oracle engineers will thus stop maintaining the macOS/x64 port as of JDK 27.

qphe95•14m ago

People said AI was going to replace all programmers, yet AI can't even maintain a x64 macOS port of Java.

vips7L•12m ago

LLM code isn't allowed in OpenJdk.

twosdai•10m ago

Isn't this the paid version of the JDK?

EDIT: I should actually click the link, not just read the title. Rip.

vips7L•9m ago

The paid version of the JDK is OpenJdk.

qphe95•9m ago

Thats an arbitrary decision that can easily be reversed.

ZiiS•5m ago

Practically that means code that is identifiable as LLM, if the code is indistinguishable it is indistinguishable.

Quitschquat•10m ago

Guess it's time to upgrade from my 2014 MBP

syncsynchalt•4m ago

You did well to skip the 2015-2020 era (butterfly keyboards, touchbar).

With that said anything M1 or newer is going to be a delightful upgrade for you. An enormous jump in performance, battery life, and thermal performance.

mikhael28•8m ago

If you have Apple Intel hardware, I strongly strongly strongly recommend you migrate to Linux. It works amazingly on MacOS, except I guess the sound drivers aren't perfect. Too many security holes in old, unpatched software.

guessmyname•3m ago

Makes no sense

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