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GCC steering committee announces AI policy

https://lwn.net/Articles/1086041/
63•arto•45m ago

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unprovable•31m ago
The comments are worth it... the full spectrum of personalities and the hottest of takes. 10/10, would recommend to a bored friend.
fractorial•18m ago
> Do anti-LLM types expect to be vindicated in an orgy of copyright lawsuits that resets the industry back to 2022? What do people pushing expect to accomplish?

You weren’t kidding, huh.

randusername•2m ago
The GCC stance seems reasonable to me, where do we think the rage is coming from in comments like this?

Off the cuff, I would be surprised if the GNU project embraced AI, so I'm confused that people think so strongly otherwise.

olalonde•2m ago
He's correct though. You would need 3 extremely low probability events to all occur simultaneously for the concerns to manifest.

1) Courts reverse their previous decisions and declare LLM generated code as belonging to LLM labs.

2) LLM labs decide to assert their copyright and sue open source projects.

3) They are able to prove that the code was generated by an LLM and not just any LLM, their LLM.

beepbooptheory•17m ago
Currently the top one has a nice kind of supervillain flair to it:

> Denying it is denying human nature, Mr. Bond, and the gods tend to punish the hubris of denying nature.

snowram•3m ago
Lwn.net is the last place I would have expected prophets to lecture us on gods plan for large language models.
datakan•2m ago
AI psychosis seems to be on all sides of the debate. We've truly lost our moderate speech and the ability to discuss.
broodbucket•22m ago
This is a pretty good middle ground, I think. You can't prevent LLM usage and there's significant downsides to doing so universally, so restricting contributions to things that a human needs to demonstrably understand circumvents a lot of problems.
olalonde•10m ago
You can use an LLM and demonstrably understand the code it produces.
vkaku•21m ago
15 lines of code is a great middle ground. Those changes involve a lot of tests though
tommytman•19m ago
caveat about test cases is a good add
ALLTaken•18m ago
For until the end of the article I was thinking GCC as in Gulf Cooperation Council. No idea why, but I was surprised this being about the gcc compiler and AI rules.
HPsquared•16m ago
The GCC is an OSS project, after all.
oarsinsync•14m ago
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wxw•13m ago
The policy source is worth reading: https://forge.sourceware.org/redi/gcc-wwwdocs/commit/4d0793a...

> We welcome all contributors to the community even if they have not yet followed our policies; we should guide such contributors on how to do so.

Kudos to the GNU project for their attitude.

jdw64•11m ago
>Why is anyone not surprised that some folks are not enthusiastically building their own gallows?

Their way of putting it is funny. I like this person's opinion, but I disagree with it. It's just their own framework, but I think it could also serve as a foundation for building other things.

Speaking of PRs, honestly, I've done the same thing before—it was just a one-line fix, but I asked the LLM to add 30 lines of tests just to look more professional

witx•8m ago
That comment section is filled with HN types
UnfitFootprint•7m ago
It’s definitely interesting watching the OSS and commercial world swing in seemingly opposite directions on this. It would be nice to see some companies sharing more balanced successful practices they’ve implemented with AI
javier_e06•6m ago
The 3 big ones, Linux, GCC and Git require a human to vouch/explain the work in question.

Once the 3 big ones start using LLM to review/accept the work for speed reliability sake, who knows what is going to happen.

ilaksh•6m ago
For people who feel it's too restrictive, I wonder if a good alternative is to work on improving clang instead?
prologic•1m ago
Do we have any idea what "legally significant" or "legally insignificant" means here?

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