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Taylor Farms Has Rewritten Its Cyclospora Statement Four Times in Sixteen Days

https://www.marlerblog.com/case-news/taylor-farms-has-rewritten-its-cyclospora-statement-four-times-in-sixteen-days-it-still-has-not-said-what-changed-at-that-plant-after-2013-or-why-two-thousand-negative-tests-should-mean-an/
100•speckx•58m ago

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senthil_rajasek•38m ago
I have not been following this very closely but it seems like the source of this cyclospora contamination has been very challenging to identify.

Especially because it takes weeks before the infected start showing symptoms.

Isn't it reasonable to update the official statement as new information emerges?

"When the facts change, I change my mind. What do you do, sir?” -John Maynard Keynes.

TylerE•36m ago
What changed is that right after the CEO visited the White House, a retraction was issued. This White House does not have a history of being factual, but does have a history of doing "favors" for big donors, which Taylor Farms is.
senthil_rajasek•34m ago
Thanks.
dabraham1248•12m ago
Mostly to be a pedantic devil's advocate here, I'm going to argue with something you're not saying. I've heard a _lot_ of people argue that the visit is _proof_ of corruption. You're just pointing out the possibility and I'm hoping to head off a bad path.

Anyway, if a company is being declared the source of a multi-state outbreak, that company _should_ be talking to the WH. And it's possible that some of those discussions would present evidence that _should_ result in a retraction.

For example, during heartbleed my grand-boss was in on calls with the WH (I don't work on openssl, at the time I worked on a product that _used_ openssl a couple of layers down). AIUI, official guidance changed because of those calls.

If we want to find proof of corruption, this is a place to start looking, not a place to stop.

foxyv•6m ago
Unfortunately, the mark of corruption spreads to everything it touches. Once you are seen taking bribes for pardons, engaging in crypto scams, and manipulating the stock market to make billions you no longer are given the benefit of the doubt. There is zero evidence for corruption in this case, other than all of the blatant corruption elsewhere. Worse, the person involved is responsible for investigating the corruption.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2026/05/07/democra...

https://www.binance.com/en/square/post/21073697321938

https://fortune.com/2026/05/23/trump-stock-portfolio-trading...

Wistar•27m ago
I have gone down that quote’s rabbit hole before and it looks a lot more apocryphal than Maynard.

https://quoteinvestigator.com/2011/07/22/keynes-change-mind/

falcor84•19m ago
> Especially because it takes weeks before the infected start showing symptoms.

I just wanted to say that your phrasing here is a fabulously ominous one for the first episode of an HBO show.

senthil_rajasek•5m ago
Ha! Seems like I am living in one these days.
peder•17m ago
And TBF, I don't think they've established why the issue is so prevalent in Michigan specifically, since Taylor Farms apparently doesn't have any unique connection to Michigan.
iwontberude•13m ago
Deficit spending the biggest ponzi ever invented. Thanks Keynes
gazebo2•8m ago
Took me a sec to realize you weren't quoting the guy from Tool lol
Danox•7m ago
Explosive diarrhea doesn’t take long to show up, and it may be hard to identify which company or who’s responsible when you fired all of the people from the department that it’s supposed to police those type of things.
pc86•38m ago
Marketing blogspam by an ambulance chasing attorney who stands to make a lot of money from this if public perception moves a certain way.
curuinor•16m ago
How much of a sin is it for the ambulance-chaser to chase ambulances if the ambulances are there and legitimate? This is what the tort law is for. He's not the one who sprayed feces-water on the lettuce...
sharps_xp•35m ago
I went to restaurant last night and asked where the chicken was sourced from and their response was "it's not the usual place we get chicken, but it's US Farm Raised Hatched", but I misinterpreted the her answer as a distributor name but then I realized even if I had a name, I probably couldn't figure out past that whether or not these chickens were pasture raised. If food labels are law, why doesn't this apply to where restaurants source their ingredients?
estearum•34m ago
Are food labels required to identify where they're sourced from? I don't think so?
bushbaba•25m ago
It’s not but they should list country of origin for the ingredients
pc86•24m ago
"Should" or "are required to?"
tyre•18m ago
Depends on the thing. Olive oil, for example, is required to list its country/countries of origin
ajmurmann•31m ago
I wonder how high the ongoing implementation cost of that would be and how that would affect choice between small, specialized and large, integrated suppliers. Sysco can probably hand me a single sheet I can use without any extra work.
cube00•32m ago
It's next level for a family owned company act like they have stock holders to please by cutting corners rather then doing the right thing.
striking•21m ago
95% of farms are "family owned". Large scale family owned farms make up about 4% of all farms but 48% of agricultural output. https://www.nass.usda.gov/Publications/Highlights/2025/Censu...

There's a tendency to want to be nice to farmers who own "family owned farms" because it evokes imagery steeped in quaint classical Americana. It is mostly from misinformation that this impression arises. Don't feel bad for a family owned farm that isn't going well. They get special bankruptcy rules, they can sell off their very valuable land as a backstop, and most of all they are probably not as small and quaint and cute as you think they are.

Aurornis•15m ago
> family owned company act like they have stock holders

A family owned company does have shareholders. The shareholders are the people who own the company.

There’s nothing all that special about a family owned business in this regard, even though they want you to believe it’s completely different. Family owned is a loose term anyway. Large companies are large companies.

t1234s•25m ago
I was always under the impression that disease and pesticide don't usually just "wash off" at home.
herf•22m ago
GPTZero "AI" score for this post: 100%
drivebyhooting•22m ago
> A company’s public statement in the middle of an outbreak is not marketing. It is evidence — what the company said it knew, and when, published to the world at a moment when nobody had the benefit of hindsight.

Stopped reading immediately. If we’re just going to delegate writing to Claude, I won’t bother reading this. And maybe I’ll just delegate my decisions to Claude directly.

Barbing•16m ago
Kept reading and yep there’s more, so it wasn’t just the intro.

Not quoting it though since someone said they’re ambulance chasers, they’ll have to hire out a smellchecker.

peder•15m ago
This is an obvious next step tho? When I want news, I'll just ask Claude. Everything funnels to these providers?
josefritzishere•18m ago
Related: https://www.wired.com/story/diarrhea-outbreak-taylor-farms-m...
Simulacra•12m ago
The lawyers rewrote it four times
jmole•15m ago
I think if you watch video of a massive meatpacking plant, you'll pretty quickly realize how hard it would be to track. At the commodity scale, basically no one in the supply chain other than the rancher seems to care where the meat comes from. And the brands (Tyson, Smithfield, etc.) only want consumers to care about the logo on the box.

Literally the canonical example of capitalism-as-meat-grinder.

Danox•4m ago
Tyson and Smithfield are the worst two brands in the USA that you can get any meat from.
dyauspitr•23m ago
Seems like more bureaucracy that would make it even harder for new restaurants to get set up and the paperwork they would have to maintain in order to provide that information.
vkou•22m ago
Such are the wages of destroying trust in the supply chain.

When you elect visibly corrupt people who promised to destroy that trust upstream, you double the burden for everyone downstream from them.

Play stupid games, win stupid prizes.

maxsilver•18m ago
This, but unironically

https://youtu.be/G__PVLB8Nm4

Miner49er•15m ago
Restaurants don't even have to track and disclose what allergens their food contains.

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