If I understand correctly, one has to hint that the online court of public opinion is turning against them and then they'll style them as imessages in a blog post.
If the HF hack were perpetrated by a human, they would certainly be charged. WHY has no one been charged???
Also people would just stop disclosing bad things. You already see this in the airline industry where pilots don't report mental illness because of the retributive nature of the punishment.
I still think we should take the opportunity to discuss this case in particular.
Phillip K. Dick meets Idiocracy.
Sure some new hacks will take place, including on poorly guarded infrastructure and yes it will have some very unfortunate consequences... but also infrastructure is precisely designed to be resilient. There is quite a bit of failsafe, redundancy, etc built in which is precisely why those projects are typically slow and expensive, unlike a random website for a restaurant.
TL;DR: nope, some isolated incidents will happen but without chain reactions.
The Iowa-led coalition is joined by the attorneys general of Alabama, Alaska, Florida, Idaho, Indiana, Kansas, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, Oklahoma, Pennsylvania, South Carolina, Texas, and Utah.
The letter’s last paragraph reads:
OpenAI has an obligation to act responsibly and to follow State and
federal laws that protect Americans’ safety and security. When OpenAI takes
actions that imperil the welfare of our citizens, State Attorneys General will
step in to protect them. We intend to take all steps necessary to protect our
States and all Americans from the unprecedented risks posed by OpenAI’s
irresponsible products and conduct.Again, what's ONE (1) real world example of "SSN/PII" being illegally exposed that wasn't investigated or prosecuted.
Anyone outraged about these AI incidents is not thinking rationally if they were not much more outraged about everyday companies leaking millions of people's PII, SSNs, which has done actual lasting damage and has been used by actually malicious actors.
People are just directing their anger at AI companies through this pretext. We all know open source models will democratize this ability anyways, so strap in for the ride.
And companies always try to pretend someone out there is worse and garner fake sympathy. OpenAI blew up the memory market and made tech inaccessible. The downstream effects of that are immeasurably massive and will have real consequences. It could even result in medical devices becoming too expensive for people. I don't care about my SSN being leaked. You can find it just by knowing where I'm born and every job I've applied to knows it already. But inability to afford technology affects everyone around me. The SSN red herring thing is not an organic argument.
And? Welcome to the big boy world. This isn't playground rules where you can complain "But Bobby was doing bad things too why isn't he in trouble?"
But you know this already. You're just pretending not to. Why?
I doubt huggingface wants charges filed.
The victim sometimes file a civil lawsuit against the criminal, that is their choice. That is not a criminal matter though and different rules apply.
The attack was only a couple weeks ago. Looks like the lawyers responsible are gathering evidence and preparing to file charges, but they need to figure out exactly what crimes were committed by who before they can do so, thus more investigation is needed.
Not quite.
Agents in the principal/agent sense have to be human.
However, every court to have ever considered it have held the human/company driving the agent responsible under vicarious liability/negligence/etc principles.
The only real defense that folks have tried is to claim the agent acted "autonomously", which no court has bought so far.
Let's assume the case none of them do, since it sounds like you are asking about "what would happen in the case this isn't specifically answered by a statute".
In that case, the short answer is:
Criminal liability - you could only really charge crimes that don't require specific intent. Reckless driving is an example. You coudl charge the company since they are the operator and the car is simply an instrumentality.
Civil liability - the company pretty clearly because civil liability often does not require the same kind of intent crimes do.
Kinda weird that this is everyone's attitude while the copyright lawyers are saying the opposite. Total liability without any actual ownership.
Even though agents are not agents in the principal/agent legal sense (because agents have to be human), for the purposes of criminality, it does not matter.
Agents do not act autonomously (and every court to ever consider it has agreed), and therefore they would simply be considered an instrumentality of the crime.
So that part does not need a new law.
The real blocker is often that a lot of the crimes you could charge here require specific intent. Because the agent is just an instrumentality, it does not have separate intent (and can't be part of a conspiracy), so it's the intent of hte person using the agent that would matter. Without whatever intent the crime requires, they haven't committed a crime.
There are not a lot of non-intent crimes in this area, and this is on purpose. Otherwise you could get charged with a crime for say, running nmap and having it accidentally shutdown something important or killed a person or whatever because someone hooked it up to a TCP port.
I'm not a lawyer, but I don't believe this. There is definitely negligence, these companies have often talked about the danger of AI. They have often written about how their AI is breaking out of sandboxes or trying to manipulate the person tuning it. They should have had stronger guards and monitoring in place.
datakan•43m ago
Title should be edited. Its Iowa leading a coalition of many other states, not just Iowa on its own.