frontpage.
newsnewestaskshowjobs

Open Source @Github

fp.

Open in hackernews

GLP-1 drugs linked to bigger jump in women’s employment than a college degree

https://finance.yahoo.com/healthcare/articles/harvard-study-links-glp-1-123000637.html
65•metadat•1h ago

Comments

nemomarx•42m ago
Lookism is pretty serious, folks. Or whatever you want to call it since that one sounds silly.

Maybe a makeover should be suggested more often in job search advice? Work on your hair and diet for a few months before you jump ship and you could have better luck.

theplumber•32m ago
I thought this has always been pretty obvious. It’s just human nature that makes people “judge” by appearances. As long as there is a face to face interview I don’t think someone could claim is not discriminating on appearance. It happens “naturally” and could go both ways but more often the “good looking” and “charming” is rewarded. It’s part of the “life’s not fair”.
mrguyorama•12m ago
Nah, gobs of people will insist to your face, despite direct evidence, that "I can look past it" when interviewing, or "I don't see color"

The world is made of HR departments and executive suites chock full of people who insist they are somehow special and immune to all the things we know about how fallible humans are at making decisions.

It's like how nearly everyone believes themselves to be an "Above average" driver, including the morons who get into an accident every single year because they text and drive constantly.

gavinray•31m ago
My mid-50's mother was on quite a long unemployment streak, and I suggested she use realtime ML models to replace her webcam face with a de-aged and improved one.

Ageism and being attractive are both real things, like it or not... =/

Izkata•19m ago
The halo effect: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halo_effect

I was gonna say "this is decades old", it's over a century old.

itishappy•18m ago
I like "pretty privilege."

In my experience, improving appearance is already one of the top suggestions for job applicants. We're attuned the other way too, showing up to work in a nice outfit tends to be met with "got an interview today?"

jaggederest•13m ago
Relevant sequence from 30 Rock - Jon Hamm lives in "The Bubble"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UAQoXOLlvT0

cbsks•10m ago
Might be different for programmers… my experience is that—broadly speaking—programming ability is inversely proportional to how well dressed you are. I wonder if that is still true, or if I’m just old.
thesumofall•6m ago
There might be a set of people for whom that might be true. There are a lot of people for whom that is not true and, fair or not, they will have an easier time to make things happen in the world
tgv•8m ago
If everybody improves their looks, the net effect will be zero. It's also not clear what parts of "looks" actually have an effect. It's also not clear what effect GLP-1 has on other elements that might make someone more employable.

The study itself is certainly not conclusive. The control group were women who wanted to take GLP-1, but didn't. That can indicate all kinds of status/class differences. The study also seems to have been a fishing expedition, and is based on self-reports, so it's tentative at best. I wouldn't recommend taking GLP-1 for a job interview based on this article.

mettamage•4m ago
> Lookism

Pretty privilege

glimshe•41m ago
I wonder how GLP-1 treatment would affect men's employment. I think in the case of women, if there's an effect for appearance increasing employment opportunities, it's not surprising that losing weight would help too.
kixiQu•38m ago
I am trying to re-find it but there was a study I'd read that was saying that in general if you don't break it down, there's a massive amount of weight stigma impact on women's employment but not men's. However, if you do break it down, you see that that impact doesn't exist for blue collar men, and does exist (if in a mediated form) for college-educated white collar men. If anyone can help turn this up (or something contradicting it) it seems useful.
diego_sandoval•35m ago
I think there are studies that analyze height vs. career achievement.
pessimizer•12m ago
Also baldness.
codedokode•30m ago
Indeed, men on average look worse than women.
kixiQu•40m ago
I think there's a lot of just-world fallacy going around re: how I keep running across the following pattern online now that GLP-1RA drugs exist.

Commenter A (esp. often a woman, though of any age): I lost a lot of weight and people treat me radically better. I did not change my behavior in a way that explains this; it seems like stigma / prejudice.

Commenter B: I have never met you but it is probably the case that stigma is not relevant and in fact you did somehow become more confident or otherwise start behaving differently in ways that mean your prior and current experiences of the world were somehow deserved.

Which is kind of wild!

nemomarx•39m ago
I'm sure being treated nicer by everyone might also increase my confidence tbh. I think the opposite order is more interesting for that though - people who become overweight and notice their coworkers and friends changing how they look at them and so on.
twic•14m ago
Mild counterpoint: a friend of mine, a professional woman, started on GLP-1 drugs some time ago. She has lost weight, but she also says she's had significant cognitive improvements, more focus, better sleep, etc. It would be great to have research which explicitly teases out these various effects.
throw-the-towel•6m ago
OTOH, these other effects could have been directly caused by weight loss. Being overweight isn't exactly healthy!
Balooga•6m ago
This research already exists though. Obesity and being overweight increases the risk of sleep apnea, strokes, heart disease, diabetes, mental health problems, etc. etc
srean•36m ago
Oh! I thought this would be about migraine.
codedokode•31m ago
If looks are important for employment how then men find a job? Men are mostly unattractive even compared to not a perfect woman. In terms of looks and style, average man loses to an average woman. Or employers require only women to be attractive?
bigyabai•29m ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keynesian_beauty_contest
luqtas•29m ago
yes! i still wondering why feminism had to be created /s
derektank•23m ago
Men tend to work in less public facing/social career fields. Your appearance doesn’t matter much if you’re a linesman or a welder; it matters more if you’re doing sales or supporting clients. Probably not the entire story, I think people do have different expectations for men and women, but certainly part of it.
kbelder•12m ago
Just go to a fast food place. There's a strong tendency to have guys in the back cooking, girls in the front at the register.
monknomo•5m ago
you know a pretty fair majority of men are working in white collar office work, which is directly comparable in terms of public facing and social careers?

real loosely, something like 1/3, 40% are in these blue collar fields, and even in those fields there are enough sales and similar roles that prefer better appearances.

nirbendavid•27m ago
Causation or correlation?
stevefan1999•17m ago
So uh, this is just trying to promote fat shaming and lookism using science as a judgement tool. How cool is that? /s
pessimizer•12m ago
Your reading comprehension is off.
rayiner•13m ago
The article has a bunch of speculation that’s not in the paper: https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w35387/w353...

One key point:

> Nor do I find evidence of upward job mobility among incumbent workers. Already-employed women do not increase hours, income per household member, or job-to-job moves. If anything, employer changes decline, possibly due to a desire to retain access to health insurance that covers these drugs. These null effects help distinguish a new-match channel from a general productivity or well-being channel

This complicates the idea that it’s just people treating lighter people better. It could well be that a lot of people who take GLP-1s are obese enough where it affects their ability to go out in the world and do stuff, and losing the weight enables people to work.

ape4•12m ago
But if everyone takes GLP-1 ... its a level playing field again
johnsmith1840•11m ago
Shocking news. Humans like attractive people.
alephnerd•5m ago
How much of this is confounding due to access and economic segmentation?

Someone who is able to getting and sustaining a prescription for GLP-1 is likely in a higher income bracket than one who does not.

quadrifoliate•4m ago
This has been the case for a long time, even with attributes that you cannot control, such as your height [1].

Given typical social prejudices, I would not be surprised if the height effect was greater for men and the weight effect was greater for women. GLP-1 drugs seem to provide a (relatively) painless way to control the weight effect; the corresponding treatment for control of height[2] is much more painful, risky, and expensive.

-------------------

[1] https://www.apa.org/monitor/julaug04/standing

[2] https://www.nytimes.com/2026/02/17/us/height-surgery-limb-le...

dgellow•22m ago
Maybe to you, I personally find both the average man and woman attractive. Women spend more time taking care of their bodies though, given societal pressures
greenavocado•19m ago
It's attractiveness all the way down
EPWN3D•19m ago
I'd be surprised if there wasn't a similar dynamic for men. While men probably have a wider range of "acceptable" physical flaws as compared to women, that doesn't mean there isn't a range. A morbidly obese man is probably going to have a tougher time finding a job than a similarly skilled fit and trim man.

Part of this is probably unconscious, but another part is probably explicit assumptions about the person's self-discipline, e.g. the fit guy must get up at 6am every morning and go for a run, and the obese guy probably sleeps in, eats trash, etc.

stevefan1999•11m ago
> Part of this is probably unconscious, but another part is probably explicit assumptions about the person's self-discipline, e.g. the fit guy must get up at 6am every morning and go for a run, and the obese guy probably sleeps in, eats trash, etc.

More like stereotypes.

For some reason I took both GLP-1 and Ritalin everyday, having moderate exercises despite throwups, only see myself gaining weight rather than losing. I have no idea why both drugs that claims to lose weight only to do the exact opposite, and perhaps I'm the kind of people who can only get fat and not losing it despite some joint efforts.

Perhaps it is not enough and I have to go full aerobatic and ketone mode. Money money money.

neutronicus•15m ago
Go to the barber, to to the tailor, go the gym...

All these things help.

colingoodman•13m ago
> If looks are important for employment how then men find a job?

This feels very fallacious. Attractiveness can be important but not the only factor that matters.

Height is a way that men are judged as attractive. Likewise, tall men tend to do better than short men on income and promotions.

Izkata•12m ago
Men get the same effect through things that are traditionally masculine. Off the top of my head, things like height, ruggedness, and for clothes you want straight lines (such as with suits, which a well-fitting one has a lot of and a badly fitting one curves around the body and breaks the straight lines).
throw-the-towel•10m ago
Well you kinda said it yourself? If men are generally unattractive then a man should be less likely to lose out to a better-looking man, simply because there's fewer of these to go around.
itishappy•9m ago
I don't think anyone can objectively judge the attractiveness of both genders on one scale.
compiler-guy•8m ago
People look for different things for "beauty" in men and women.

Taller people--an area where men have a very distinct advantage--make more money and have an easier go of things.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1570677X2...

"Based on the meta-analysis, we found evidence that the height premium varied by context: the height premium was smaller in the U.S. and Australia, and larger in Latin America and Asia. Within geographies, there appeared to be a larger height premium for men than for women."

petesergeant•8m ago
> Men are mostly unattractive

Could it be that _you_ are simply be not as attracted to men as you are to women?

The Download: AI agents for science, and the "censorship-industrial complex"

https://www.technologyreview.com/2026/08/10/1141526/the-download-ai-agents-science-censorship-ind...
1•joozio•3m ago•0 comments

What Does the Humbling of Leopold Aschenbrenner Mean for the A.I. Bubble?

https://www.newyorker.com/news/the-financial-page/what-does-the-humbling-of-leopold-aschenbrenner...
2•mitchbob•7m ago•1 comments

Open4D, a community-driven open-source ecosystem for 4D spatial data

https://github.com/open4dfoundation/Open4D
1•open4d•8m ago•1 comments

OpenBao Features – Recursive Lists (Scan) & Filtering

https://openbao.org/blog/features-recursive-list/
1•cipherboy•9m ago•0 comments

Waymo Is Growing Faster Than Ever. So Are Its Glitches

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/10/technology/waymo-expansion-edge-cases.html
2•harmmonica•9m ago•0 comments

LLM Performance and Following Requirements

https://492ab3fb.danpalmer-me.pages.dev/2026-08-09-llms-and-requirements/
2•speckx•10m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Draw any shape and hear what it sounds like as a drum

https://baselashraf81.github.io/eigendrum/
1•BaselAshraf81•10m ago•0 comments

Centaur 2.0

https://twitter.com/gakonst/status/2086846192701640817
2•anr0•11m ago•1 comments

I built a free web coding curriculum for beginners and teachers

https://aicodingeducator.com/
3•Julesman•14m ago•1 comments

Claude Code self-improved through conversation, not the memories it saved

https://shojin.dev/blog/claude-code-improved-through-conversation-not-memories/
2•anndvision•14m ago•1 comments

With Flying Pen, When Mortals Sleep

https://brianschrader.com/archive/with-flying-pen-when-mortals-sleep/
1•sonicrocketman•14m ago•1 comments

LexisNexis pulls three services offline after suspicious server activity

https://www.theregister.com/off-prem/2026/08/10/lexisnexis-blames-outage-on-unusual-server-activi...
3•joebuckwilliams•14m ago•0 comments

I reverse engineered Meta's Muse Code binary and found hidden agent workflows

https://runtimewire.com/article/exclusive-meta-s-muse-code-binary-reveals-hidden-agent-workflows-...
2•ryanmerket•16m ago•0 comments

Agentic coding needs human sign-off tied to physical reality

https://patrickaudley.com/posts/human-signoff-for-agentic-code.html
1•antoineMoPa•17m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Run outbound and lead gen from Claude Cowork, no sales tools

https://github.com/skyzer/skills
1•skyzer•20m ago•0 comments

Falsehoods programmers believe about addresses (2013)

https://www.mjt.me.uk/posts/falsehoods-programmers-believe-about-addresses/
1•throw0101a•22m ago•0 comments

ChainDrop supply chain compromise: Anatomy of a self-propagating worm

https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/security/blog/2026/08/04/chaindrop-supply-chain-compromise-anatom...
2•mooreds•22m ago•0 comments

John Crowley Has Died

https://www.programmablemutter.com/p/john-crowley-has-died
3•paulpauper•24m ago•1 comments

Poll shows support for proportional representation in the US

https://www.npr.org/2026/08/10/nx-s1-5920312/proportional-representation-poll
1•marojejian•24m ago•1 comments

Just how big is the hidden leverage of AI hyperscalers?

https://www.ft.com/content/a0a07cce-6d19-4b1e-a73b-9855a06ba7b3
4•petethomas•24m ago•0 comments

Stop Fleeing the Base: Security Needs to Learn to Code

https://oreillyradar.substack.com/p/the-base-is-under-attack
1•tmo9d•25m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Jsonseek – Token-efficient JSON/JSONL navigation for LLM agents

https://github.com/lo2589/JSONSEEK
1•yoliliya•25m ago•0 comments

Bill Goichberg, Who Reshaped Competitive Chess in the U.S., Dies at 83

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/08/08/us/bill-goichberg-dead.html
2•paulpauper•26m ago•1 comments

The Resident Project

https://snowballons.com/writing/the-resident-project/
1•jonniebullie•27m ago•0 comments

Kyutai MuScriptor: Automatic Multi-Instrument Transcription

https://kyutai.org/blog/2026-07-10-muscriptor/
1•Sebastian_09•27m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Is your AI hallucinating? The big labs won't tell you but we will

https://www.telluvian.ai/blog/is-your-ai-hallucinating
3•galois123•27m ago•1 comments

Neo

https://hughhowey.com/introducing-neo/
3•hentrep•27m ago•0 comments

Mcmaster.ai

https://www.mcmaster.com/
3•gregsadetsky•28m ago•1 comments

Launch HN: Stoa Markets (YC S26) – A Marketplace for GPUs and AI Servers

https://www.stoaexchange.com
6•erenberke•28m ago•0 comments

The Day the AI Act Grew Teeth: GPAI Enforcement Goes Live

https://simonroses.com/2026/08/the-day-the-ai-act-grew-teeth-gpai-enforcement-goes-live/
2•speckx•29m ago•0 comments