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France's tax authority had data stolen on 680k taxpayers

https://korben.info/en/france-tax-authority-data-breach-680000-taxpayers.html
38•rzk•58m ago

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formvoltron•47m ago
Now do EES face and thumb scans.
peri-cl•44m ago
> "The attack is not recent, however. It dates back to late June - the 26th, to be precise, according to the hacker - and the administration had detected and stopped it at the time, without ever saying a word publicly."

I thought GDPR mandated disclosure of data breaches involving PII. Is France's tax authority somehow exempt?

edit to add: Article 33 particularly,

https://gdpr.eu/article-33-notification-of-a-personal-data-b...

sam_lowry_•41m ago
Rules for thee not for me.
hvb2•8m ago
In the article I read about this it appears that they only found out now. They apparently launched an investigation and discovered the breach after being contacted by the hacker
rvz•36m ago
Now you are realizing that some "rules" don't apply to others.
petcat•28m ago
Well it certainly lends credence to the opinion that GDPR and similar regulations are mostly designed for EU revenue generation by extracting fines from American tech companies. The actual privacy protections are secondary.
starvar2•44m ago
Who takes the fall for mistakes like this?
stronglikedan•43m ago
The system, so no one in particular, so it will never get better until individuals can be held accountable.
nekusar•31m ago
Policy makers make the policy that must be followed. Of course the engineers would take the brunt of blame, even though the engineering groups never make policy.
popeyeparrot•29m ago
Its easy to say someone being personally responsible would fix the problem.. Really this just encourages further nefarious organizational behavior. I.e. hiring people into big titles who can't even understand their liability and railroading them into what an informal management actually wants as far as risk/cost trade offs which are then even higher toward risk as there is a scapegoat.
falcor84•42m ago
It was really hard for me to parse that headline. I'd instead suggest:

Hacker claims exfiltrating data on 680,000 French taxpayers.

sam_lowry_•42m ago
Please-please, put it online for us to enjoy!

This will be bigger than the Panama Papers!

_ache_•11m ago
It is already. You can buy it online. There is not a lot of place where hackers sells that kind of stuffs.

1k lines are already shared, seems legit. :/ Most of them is just <30k€ people. Only a handful of millionaires (8 >10M if I remember correctly), 0 billionaires. 2/3 people, 1/3 pro, there is no information about tax on professionals.

Seems to be an API endpoint about people who ask questions to the DGFiP.

xabd•41m ago
680k taxpayers is a pretty significant number. I wonder what kind of data was actually exposed and whether the affected people are being notified individually.
retinaros•8m ago
there was another leak recently and full data leaked. people having crypto got victim of home invasion , beatings, kidnapings, so much that france accounted for 70% of all crypto crimes the past years. and It wasnt for millions. people even with a few 10k$ in crypto got assaulted at their home.
orwin•36m ago
I worked as a temp for france tax collection before my degree (circa 2012-2013l.

People were registered in 3 different database, each of them independent, each of them on a different software (one aspnet/vbnet you connected through a browser, one very, very old, clearly IBM software, and the third one was probably as old as IBM, if not older, but looked like a minitel portage on windows). All the relevant data were dispersed on those three (a fourth one existed but only authorised people could use it because you had bank account numbers on it). Also, only the Vbnet software allowed copy paste, which means that to find someone, you had to file the tax number+surname 3 time, without making any mistake.

I wonder which one was broken into. No bank details, so it probably was one I had access to as a temp. Maybe they upgraded their software though, because if I remember correctly only they all worked on the local network (not sure about the aspnet one).

retinaros•12m ago
france is living through its own programmed obsolescence and it is 100% due to boomer generation locking in the vote to favor themselves instead of france future. can you believe that during covid governement pushed to raise retirements pensions by the inflation but forced to lock wages not to do that. they did that ONLY because boomers have the majority vote in this country. they also did the covid lockin for boomers, sacrifying all the youth generation to unemployement and debt.

right now if you want to be working for the gov as an IT sec engineer you will earn less than an average civil servant working 35hours a week that just requires 0-2 year of post grade studies and you will be on a temp contract. there is literaly no decent engineer that will accept such a job. now scale that to many fields in france and see why this once great country is doomed

We should only allow vote for people that contribute to society or at least give them a stronger x2 x3 vote factor.

Same for retirement funds in france younger generations pay for the older ones but it appears that boomers did not make enough children for growth/equilibrium and are now earning more pensions than their children will. the logical thing to do is to decrease pensions for every boomer that has less than 2 children.

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