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GitHub Has an Availability Problem. Is It Time to Look Elsewhere?

https://dhruv2038.bearblog.dev/github-has-an-availability-problem-is-it-time-to-look-elsewhere/
45•dhruv3006•41m ago

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isoprophlex•17m ago
What is GH's remaining long-term moat right now, anyway? Microsoft bundling? Name recognition? That it's still the goto place for open source? Existing corpo contracts?

- githubs' ci/cd has been pretty crap for me personally (ok there's worse out there but it's definitely not a joyful thing)

- The user interface I hate more and more each year.

- The availability, well... there's still two nines in there lol

- the CLI is not bad, i don't hate that

IshKebab•13m ago
* Free private repos

* Free CI, especially Mac & Windows.

Find my a competitor that offers that. Until then I think their uptime is going to have to get a lot worse before the majority care.

petcat•13m ago
> What is GH's remaining long-term moat right now

180,000,000 monthly active users

the__alchemist•13m ago
Community; network effects.

Also, observe that the competitors all copied it's UI. And on a case-by-case basis, they have drawbacks of their own.

veqq•9m ago
> still two nines

Unfortunately, as a codeberg user, codeberg doesn't have 2 9s...

ehfeng•1m ago
i wonder if it's just an unappealing business to compete with. it's like walmart: no one likes walmart, but it's unappealing to compete with them in small-town america.

plus, it's a huge headache to run and not very profitable. github mostly makes money on ci/cd, but a github alternative wouldn't benefit from that: anyone migrating would inherently evaluate other ci/cd vendors. plus, github eats a ton of network egress, which is very expensive. the only people who could eat the cost are the other clouds: gcp, aws, cloudflare, etc. but it feels dubiously beneficial for them.

nerdypepper•16m ago
we need to break free from monocultures: https://blog.tangled.org/federation/
everyday7732•14m ago
Would a diaspora from GitHub be that bad? I don't see particularly big benefits from having every project being hosted in one place. Monopolies with network effects tend to enshittify.
ghewgill•13m ago
Yes, let's look beyond centralized services for source control (also known as "developer social media"). For example, Forgejo is working on federation (https://codeberg.org/forgejo-contrib/federation/src/branch/m...) which makes the choice of where to host your code less relevant, because anybody on the federated network will be able to interact with any other repository no matter where it is hosted.

The success and growth of Mastodon proves that this model works, particularly for people who identify as being developers.

__xor_eax_eax•11m ago
Is Mastodon successful?
sathish316•7m ago
Git is meant to be a dvcs (distributed version control system) and I remember doing this in the early days of Git to point to any remote when the central repository or provider was down.

Is it possible to create mirrors of every repo with no Microsoft dependency or until someone else acquires GitHub from Microsoft and makes it more reliable (maybe Elon Musk like he did with Twitter)? This can solve for commit/push/pull when GitHub is down, but not for Pull requests and reviews.

felipeheredia•11m ago
I really want to move my personal code away from GitHub, but I really don't know an alternative that will be as good as GitHub to serve as a Portfolio and a good service. Maybe Codeberg or GitLab, I really don't know
minraws•11m ago
For community projects it's hard to manage user accounts and stuff.
imnes•10m ago
If the problem really stems from capacity issues and the unexpected growth rate, maybe the way forward is further limiting / throttling capacity to free tier users, and increased costs for paid users to allow more expansion (in compute / personnel). Get rid of some of the baked in Co-Pilot integrations that might be compounding the extra workloads.
pcan77•10m ago
Nah, it's great for coffee breaks IMO. Not everything needs to be perfect. Honestly every dev I know rejoices when GH goes down because it gives them a much needed and deserved break lol.
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