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AI;DR (AI; Didn't Read)

https://www.rickmanelius.com/p/aidr-ai-didnt-read
148•mooreds•42m ago

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arm32•28m ago
This is HW;DR: human-written, did read
sermah•25m ago
TA;DU: Too ambiguous, didn’t understand
hinkley•24m ago
did understand?
em-bee•23m ago
yeah, how about HW;WR? human written, worth reading.
spudlyo•18m ago
This is LE;DU: low-effort, didn't upvote.
pavon•27m ago
AI—DR
hidelooktropic•26m ago
I get this reference
r_lee•22m ago
that's load-bearing
bratr•13m ago
here's a honest take
cobolexpert•13m ago
You closed the gap
mock-possum•8m ago
That’s the shape of it
sega_sai•26m ago
If some text is AI written as a response to a much shorter prompt, then the prompt and/or sources used to make the text should be published instead (or at the very least together with the text).
add-sub-mul-div•23m ago
I think of a prompt more like a tweet. The medium does matter. If someone was only willing or able to put an abbreviated amount of thought and effort into something, it's not worth a disproportionate amount my time or attention.
JoshTriplett•21m ago
Exactly. And I think the information theory matters here: it's worth putting in information proportional to the human-supplied input, not proportional to the AI-expanded output.
perching_aix•14m ago
[delayed]
Terr_•25m ago
> TL;DR (too long; didn’t read) was the solution for social media.

> AI;DR (AI; didn’t read) is the solution for AI slop.

Maybe I'm the odd-one-out here and didn't plumb the worse-depths of social media, but I feel I need to defend good old TLDR as a slightly different, less-hostile animal.

It's rare for someone to invoke it as a moral condemnation of the poster. The spectrum is more like:

1. Wow, no, I'm not going to read all those pages, in this context you are disrespecting everyone's time.

2. I read it, but it's lengthy, I'd summarize it as X. (Hostile, sarcastic)

3. I read it but there was too much, please be shorter.

4. I read it, but it's lengthy, I'd summarize it as X. (Helpful, sincere)

pixelesque•25m ago
Too sloppy, didn't read.
Gecko4072•23m ago
I thought this was: I summarized with AI; didn't read.
adroitboss•20m ago
I thought the exact same. There is also a growing problem with people using AI to summarize everything instead of reading the actual text. I thought this addressed that issue by having a section for the AI to help summarize or something similar.
eddieroger•21m ago
>However, I have a new policy.

>If you’re not bothered enough to review and edit it...

>...then I’m not going to bother reading it.

Just playing Devil's Advocate here, but we've had copywriters and editors for generations now. Not reading something because AI did the post-writing work feels kinda weak. Skip stuff started from AI, fine, but this is just because it's AI, not because the author didn't do the task. And I do get the point is that if an AI did /most/ of the work, ok to that, too, but not post-write processing alone.

het25•13m ago
that is load bearing information, and i won't tiptoe around it.
jere•13m ago
And how could you possibly distinguish those scenarios without wasting all your time?
nancyminusone•13m ago
>But if you’re my colleague and we’re in a Slack discussion and you post a wall of Claude output

did you formerly hire copywriters for this task?

AnimalMuppet•8m ago
The problem with copywriters is that they wrote "copy" - which turns out to be writing that I don't want to read. And the problem with AI is that much of what it trained on is copy, so it trained to write stuff that I don't want to read.

So in the end, I don't care if a human wrote it or an AI, I don't want to read it either way.

What's wrong with copyrighters? They write like corporations, not like humans (see the Cluetrain Manifesto for more on this). They sound like nobody - literally inhuman. I don't want to read that. I want to hear a human voice. If I can't hear that in your writing, I don't need to read it.

jannyfer•18m ago
https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=all&page=2&prefix=false&qu...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46991394

Fantosism•14m ago
Thank you. Felt like I was stuck in a time loop.
Cider9986•14m ago
The first mention 10 months ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45725169
CyberMacGyver•18m ago
Don’t be a meat proxy [0] is another one I like

[0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49151933

matheusmoreira•17m ago
Yet another rant about AI, didn't read.
ademup•17m ago
I'll probably be downvoted to the bottom of the ocean, but I feel this needs to be said:

- Why does it matter who or what wrote a thing? And how would you know if the /content/ is worthwhile, unless you read it...

- The ability to "detect AI" is imperfect at best. 90% AI written? 5%? How would you know, unless you read it....

- If you didn't read it, then why brag about it with an "AI;DR"?

- If you are wrong, and you announce it to the world, how would it feel to someone who spent a lot of time and energy writing?

VeninVidiaVicii•15m ago
Maybe you haven’t seen enough coworkers send you pages and pages of slop.
jastanton•12m ago
Because my time is valuable and if the person who sent me something didn't care enough to write it, then I don't care enough to read it.

Bragging about it is weird, but I will use it like I use 'RTFM'.

And detectability - My AI-DAR (radar), is fairly fined tuned but not perfect, so if I make a mistake, oh well, the point is I'm protecting my time.

ModernMech•9m ago
So how much time do you deem a minimum amount for someone to spend on some unit of work before you're willing to read it? And what technologies are allowed -- are word processors allowed or does it have to be done with a writing instrument like a pencil? What about spell check? Do you care if they had done their research with a Wikipedia or do you prefer card catalog for the really important work?
its-summertime•11m ago
krona•17m ago
A similar metaphor (I think I came up with but can't remember) is the slop sandwich. You can deliver slop to me but only when wrapped in a thick layer of human intervention (which usually also means removing 50% of the slop)
whstl•15m ago
There is a light at the end of the tunnel for all the minds burned out by AI slop.

I already saw someone getting fired for only producing AI text as part of their entire output, after being unable to explain what they “wrote” in multiple situations.

And recently my company enacted a mandate that text made for humans should not be AI generated.

Sooner or later every company will start realizing that this is just people too lazy to actually work and coasting on a paycheck, at the expense of every other worker.

rfff2•14m ago
Yup sooner or later the new heuristic will be quality of comms measured by how short a thing is rather than how long.

Much how like essay's have a word limit - and people think you should max it out.

We will go in the opposite direction - which I'll be glad about!

montroser•14m ago
I am pro AI, and also deeply share this sentiment.

I think sometimes people have a big long thread with Claude where they feel enthusiastic about the back and forth being very productive -- and then they genuinely want to share the summary of the conversation with their colleagues so that they can feel it too. It's not just typing a short prompt and copy/pasting the response.

But, Claude, especially Opus is so unnecessarily flowery, and smug -- and it's so identifiably characteristic.

It somehow rubs salt in the wound: "I didn't take the time to write this out in my own words, so now you get to listen to this petulant asshole mansplain it to you".

If it would get to the point, and with some humility, it would be a much different proposition.

gortok•13m ago
The part that astonishes me is that in the year of our common era two thousand twenty-six that it's not universally offensive and reviling to post an AI-generated response to another person.

If I'm reading something on the internet, I'm either reading it to learn, or I'm reading it to be persuaded. If I wanted the LLM to teach me (thank you, no), I would ask an LLM. I'm reading your website/newsletter/email because I want to hear from you.. If you can't be bothered to put your time into writing it and teaching me what you think, why should I be bothered to read it?

fluidcruft•8m ago
It's like when you type a search in Google and get a wall of SEO spam.

I do feel like there is some middle ground where AI helps, but there's this one guy who keeps emailing everyone with walls of dumbass text and does not integrate or understand the feedback he gets when we are telling him what he needs to do. He just runs it though the LLM and replies and then forgets half of it in the next email engagement which functions as /clear on his end apparently. Like... dude I have ChatGPT and Claude, too. Actually read your goddamn emails.

m463•6m ago
AI;WR
supermatt•13m ago
I submit pretty much the opposite of this, but it didn't gain any traction: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49332291
meindnoch•11m ago
Yeah, I wonder why! /s
supermatt•10m ago
Because some people are just ignorant and downvote anything they disagree with :)
classictraffic•11m ago
This blog post also feels AI written (I can tell it’s human written, just sloppy)
a2ff6eeb0•11m ago
Eventually, AI will be a far better writer than a human is, and then nobody will want to read the human generated subpar writing.
slybot•11m ago
3 years ago; https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35638229
thm•11m ago
Eternal September already?
cortesoft•10m ago
I really like the point I read somewhere the other day; instead of sending me the AI output, just send me the prompt you used to generate it. That is the only part that contains only the information you are trying to convey. The rest is just guesses flowery language added, and it confuses the actual message being sent.
paulpauper•8m ago
Many people use many prompts and revisions or prompts or combinations or human and AI writing. Its not a simple as just making a single prompt and copying the output as the blog post.
hankbond•10m ago
If you don't write the README, ME won't READ it.
dbspin•10m ago
"Look, I get it. It’s Q3 2026, and we should expect that everyone is utilizing AI at SOME point in their process (sourcing ideas, creating outlines, refining prose, etc.)."

Hell no. Sourcing ideas? From AI? Are you kidding? Essentially guaranteeing they won't be original? Refining prose? Making it much more likely it'll be generic as hell. Call me old fashioned, but while I can certainly understand asking LLMs concrete questions - how do I fix this, where can I unsubscribe from that - using AI to help communicate seems bass-ackwards. LLMs have no idea what you're talking about - they're free associating probabilistic sentences! What on earth value could that have in communicating. They self contradict, hallucinate, speak most frequently in a weird smug corporatese. How is this an attractive use case of the technology?

neilv•8m ago
> Look, I get it. It’s Q3 2026, and we should expect that everyone is utilizing AI at SOME point in their process (sourcing ideas, creating outlines, refining prose, etc.).

Sounds like this isn't everyone, but rather, it's people who have nothing to say, and -- even after they've "sourced ideas" -- they don't know how to reason about it, nor how to communicate it.

This isn't everyone. This is people engaged in generating noise, for the sake of noise.

LPisGood•8m ago
My coworkers continue to dump hundreds of lines of AI documentation in every PR and every other line of code has between one and ten lines of AI generated comments, talking about the real unlock and how things are byte for byte identical on the load bearing path or how the acceptance ladder is misleading.

Features are coming out and metrics are improving, but we’re basically in a post readability code base, with the occasional performative comment about a variable name.

I don’t really know how to address this situation or if it needs addressed. I certainly don’t read the long-winded AI comments or the AI documentation, but perhaps it’s useful for the AI on its next pass.

jr3592•7m ago
The irony here is that his very own post reads (to me) as AI slop. Take this line:

> I’ve been thinking about it ever since. Why? Because there is growing grumbling among everyone about AI writing. And it’s not just others; it’s me!

Classic AI "its not just, its..."

ramdump•6m ago
The fear I have is that I accuse of AI without being 100% certain. I've not found a good way around this except to talk to the person.
techpression•6m ago
This hurts particularly much when it comes to software changelogs/release notes, most recently for me was the solidjs 2 beta, reading the announcement post was painful, even the headers are LLM:isms.
brunoborges•6m ago
If a coworker sends me an AI generated report to help on my task, I am more likely to ask them to just send me the prompt and model they used. Let me own the session and steer it however I want.
Imagine a future where 99% of text is written by 1 unpassionate person. Reading the same patterns, the same tropes, the same flow across paragraphs, over and over, would be unpleasant. It already is unpleasant.
layman51•8m ago
In one case, I could tell because the tone of the piece sounded exactly like the kind of stuff I would read after prompting an LLM and I had never heard of the author before, but I knew that they were like an intern or a new college grad and for some reason their piece was trying to persuade employees in a certain field about how they had to use AI itself. It just rubbed me the wrong way because if they did use AI, then they didn't even bother to rewrite the repetitive instances of "it's not X; it's y", and also "This isn't X".

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