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Opus 5.0 drives incoherence into the stratosphere

https://github.com/anthropics/claude-code/issues/77136
50•Bluestein•39m ago

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latentsea•11m ago
I did a grep for load-bearing in our codebase and it now appears hundreds of times. I'm actively starting to hate Opus because of this shite. It's just infuriating to read now.
Bluestein•3m ago
"You are absolutely right to push back!" ...

I am really really really trying to wrap my head around this. I am of course first discarding the obvious: "more tokens used is simply more tokens burned ..."

... read somewhere that it is partially a result of Claude now wanting to be ready for longer, more complex, mutli-step work. And this verbiage is the result.-

Whatever it is, they've got people begging for 4.6 back (wrt tone).-

ArtRichards•6m ago
Basically every decision or summary I now ask "Help me understand better, please explain in plain-language with examples."

Works with 5.6 sol also, when you're deep in the weeds. I rationalize this as the models attempting to compress as much into the fewest tokens, though the choice of words often doesn't make sense to me, going back to read the original after, its often there. It definitely feels like a different sort of 'Machine Language' though xD

bartrab•4m ago
Same. I've also found asking for explanations in "layman's terms" has been helpful.
prymitive•4m ago
Sounds like engagement KPIs are through the roof since 4.8
jgbuddy•5m ago
Just instruct it not to do these things
jonstaab•5m ago
This is so funny to read. I ended up creating a /cleanup-prose skill I run after every command
cobolcomesback•5m ago
I’m a bit flabbergasted that an Anthropic engineer did reply to this issue, however their reply which they used Claude to write, and even includes some classic ‘Claude-isms’, claims they didn’t see any of the patterns being complained about.

Read the room Anthropic. Maybe don’t use AI to reply to a thread complaining about how AI output is hard to read.

hnarayanan•4m ago
This drives me insane! To combat it, I maintain a list of banned words and phrases. Claude mostly follows this (but sometimes ignores it).

blast radius, land, landed, lands, spine, earned its keep, grammar, spike, cutover, bake, seams, honest, honestly, honesty, long pole, long poles, register, grain, dissolve, floor, ladder, dear, seal, sealed, in anger, resent, amazing, incredible, perfect, sprint, epic, story points, stand-up, retro, grooming, robust, comprehensive, rigorous, surgical, elegant, systematic, dive, deep-dive, delve, unpack, leverage, streamline, surface, it's worth noting, to be clear, importantly, that said, the moment, in one breath, the thing itself, here's the thing, not just X but Y, not X it's Y, em-dashes

onraglanroad•4m ago
Sounds like it's been infected with the MBAs.

I've seen it in many companies. I don't think there's a vaccine yet.

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