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I Think the Military Commissary's Freezers Were Hacked

https://signalandsilence.substack.com/p/i-think-someone-hacked-the-commissary
37•jcurbo•54m ago

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1284725•42m ago
Gilfoyle was here. Everything that has been mocked in the Silicon Valley Show has either already happened or will happen.
ggm•42m ago
Single source systems provider and integrator and a doom date?

Could be a hack or a design flaw. I await the root cause analysis.

fzeroracer•41m ago
There's a far simpler explanation than some outside actor (either state sponsored or otherwise) deciding that the best thing they can do is to muck around with freezers.

We know there's been a severe rot of operational capabilities in the military thanks for Hegseths purges and general stupidity. It's entirely possible and quite likely that over the course of his various drunken binges he decided to get rid of people who were in charge of operational control for stuff like freezers across military bases.

Kichererbsen•38m ago
General Stupidity should probably be demoted for this.
odyssey7•28m ago
This is exactly the sort of thing that a saboteur would want its targets to think.

“If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them.” —Sun Tzu, The Art of War

fzeroracer•25m ago
That's the exact sort of thing the military would want us to think, because 'we were hacked by another nation' sounds a lot better than 'we fired the people responsible for food logistics'. You're not going to be able to divine the real reason this way.
odyssey7•24m ago
There would be far better excuses here than saying “we’re incompetent.”
kjs3•20m ago
To be fair, if you want to mess with your adversaries troop morale, screwing up dinner is pretty effective.
voidUpdate•7m ago
I would agree, but the freezers going into high heat defrost mode seems like an intentional action from someone, whether that be incompetence or malice on the side of DeCA, or malice from a third party. If they got rid of the people commanding the freezers what to do, I feel like they'd just stay on whatever mode they were already on, rather than suddenly command all the freezers to defrost
boesboes•41m ago
Welcome to the internet of shitty unsupported and insecure crap! Are we really this dumb as a society?
voidUpdate•32m ago
Yes
tialaramex•16m ago
And at some point in hindsight it will be obvious what fractions of problems were

A. This technology is inherently crap, that's our fault

B. A bored teenager broke it. Bored teenagers are a thing, it literally doesn't matter which country they are in, stop building things bored teenagers will blow up, this is also inherently our fault

C. Foreign Adversaries

It suits both mass media audience figures and a narrative of wily enemies rather than incompetence to pin everything on C and it seems eminently possible that a country with as many enemies as the US would attract this sometimes, but the reality is that both A and B are much more likely despite being embarrassing.

wlesieutre•24m ago
As the saying goes, the S in IoT stands for security

Not exactly strong evidence presented here, but it wouldn't be a surprise either

nom•17m ago
it's not AI generated so it must be true
DarmokTanagra•11m ago
homeonthemtn•36m ago
Very interesting article, very neurotically written. Definitely got grating by the end.
CarVac•30m ago
The bold text use make me think it was largely LLM-written. Maybe even LLM-researched.
codingdave•33m ago
The author doesn't really claim it was a hack, just that it is a possibility. But they are charging down the path of the potential hack before asking the more obvious question: How many refrigerators exist in the military at all? And of those, how many are having problems?

Because a half dozen a day sounds plausible as standard maintenance issues, as the author acknowledges. If it were a hack, I'd expect something like 50% of them to have problems. But not knowing how many there are, I don't know how significant these incidents really are.

odyssey7•31m ago
Obvious sabotage would be addressed promptly. Subtle sabotage could persist as a minor torment indefinitely.
ckdarby•15m ago
The article has a post that says this happened across 14 bases at the same time.
ErroneousBosh•11m ago
Then I would suspect that this is either down to the common control system, or there has been a batch failure of the controllers in the freezers that were presumably ordered and supplied at the same time.

I've seen batch failures in radio equipment where I could predict 100% accurately which devices would fail based on the range of serial numbers.

jvanderbot•6m ago
So what's the denominator? Every base has some kid of refrigerator, and there must be 100s-1000s of bases.
AppAttestationz•14m ago
I'm waiting for the OpenAI report that their agents defrosted everything.
tyingq•6m ago
This would be a bigger deal for the commissary locations outside the US, though I see none are on the list. Many of the very junior enlisted make very little money (~2400USD/month), and the low pricing at the commissary helps quite a lot. In the US, you would typically have some affordable off-base options. Overseas, it depends. Many of the locations are remote, or in places where the local groceries are significantly more expensive.
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