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Paint.net 5.2 alpha now runs on Linux

https://forums.paint.net/topic/134562-paintnet-52-alpha-build-9739/
30•judah•57m ago

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nashashmi•41m ago
Paint.net used to be an open source collaboration project by Rick Brewster, a Microsoft Employee and the students at the University of Washington. Today it is a private closed source project accepting donations, and still headed by Rick Brewster.
yodon•37m ago
This is via Wine, so presumably it should also run on Macs now.

Paint.net is the only thing I miss from my days on Windows machines, so super excited about this!

fletchowns•30m ago
I also miss paint.net on Mac. Pinta gets pretty close though: https://www.pinta-project.com/
judah•32m ago
The full thread[0] about how it runs on Wine is quite interesting:

> Direct2D has always been the biggest hurdle for Paint.NET on WINE, and it's clear that it will never be completed enough for Paint.NET's use. And I can't just "disable" the use of Direct2D. So, instead, Paint.NET now has an internal, from-scratch, clean-room reverse-engineered rewrite of Direct2D that it uses on WINE (triggered by using /wine). It lives in PaintDotNet.Windows.Direct2D1.Managed.dll. This was written by our good friend Claude, without whom this would NOT have been possible and would NEVER have happened.

> Most of this code is, as they say, "vibe coded." By that I mean that it has not been thoroughly reviewed, it's more "trust me bro" style. I cannot possibly review 180,000 lines of code, it's just way way way too much. For reference, the rest of Paint.NET is about 700,000 lines of code and I've been working on it for over 20 years. I did thoroughly review any code that had to be changed or added elsewhere in the Paint.NET code base (refactoring and integration points, etc.). Over time I do hope that more of this code will be vetted by real humans and also by more advanced AI models.

[0]: https://forums.paint.net/topic/134563-%F0%9F%8D%B7-extremely...

0x1d7•22m ago
How can one claim clean room if developed by a model? “Don’t use stolen code, yo”?
rspeele•9m ago
I'm not the Paint.NET developer (just a happy user of that software), but to me the moral logic would go something like this:

If Anthropic can absorb proprietary or GPL code into their models, which they rent usage of for tens of billions of dollars in revenue, and successfully claim that this violates no licenses, then I can also consider the output of those models "clean" for purposes of my software I give away for free.

joshuaissac•30m ago
I see they finally got the domain name paint.net. They used to be at getpaint.net, and the paint company that owned paint.net had a link saying something like 'if you are looking for the graphics software, go to getpaint.net'.
tech234a•20m ago
Apparently the author got a surprising amount of backlash on Bluesky: https://bsky.app/profile/rickbrew.bsky.social/post/3muiv4phe...
embedding-shape•15m ago
> Alright everyone, message received. I was not expecting this response, I honestly had no idea before I made the post

The source got deleted, what is the backlash even about? People don't like .net software running on Linux?

> Like I said, the code is experimental. A proof of concept showing that PDN-on-WINE is possible. It's not finished. I can literally just delete it. It won't be part of the next build.

This almost sounds like sarcasm and a reference to the whole "The Bun-rewritten-in-Rust branch is just a prototype and probably means nothing" Tweet that initially made the frontpage when it. But I think it's in earnest, just very similar to how I remember that Tweet I suppose.

rietta•20m ago
Hugged to death? website is not working for me from the xfinity network.
JamesCoyne•19m ago
Unlikely to see wide distribution on Linux given the license
haunter•16m ago
Here is the source code of the last open source (MIT) release from 2008

Wonder if it can be built for modern Linux

https://web.archive.org/web/20080000000000*/http://www.dotpd...

embedding-shape•14m ago
> Wonder if it can be built for modern Linux

I think the question nowadays would be "What's the least amount of tokens I could use for making this build on modern Linux?", with any amount of tokens, there isn't much you couldn't do with enough time.

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