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US Military disabled ad tracking on troops' devices after targeted attacks

https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/04/us-military-disabled-ad-tracking-on-troops-devices-following-re...
3•jethronethro•1m ago•0 comments

Decoherence: A card game for two based on quantum physics

https://decoherance.vaguespac.es/
1•thebigship•3m ago•0 comments

Scaling Engineering: Ownership over Hiring

https://greenido.dev/2026/06/11/what-changes-at-20-50-and-200-engineers/
1•fagnerbrack•5m ago•0 comments

Free WhatsApp abandoned cart recovery for WooCommerce

https://wordpress.org/plugins/6rsh-messaging-notifications/
1•sixrsh•5m ago•0 comments

Botsitting: The Unpaid Labour Behind Every AI Productivity Claim

https://smarterarticles.co.uk/botsitting-the-unpaid-labour-behind-every-ai-productivity-claim
1•dxs•6m ago•0 comments

Code at the Speed of Understanding

https://dennisy.me/notes/code-at-the-speed-of-my-understanding
1•dennisy•7m ago•0 comments

Secret Collusion Among AI Agents

https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.07510
2•phaseonebig•8m ago•0 comments

Amy – high performance fixed-point music synthesizer library

https://github.com/shorepine/amy
1•anigbrowl•8m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Animating code snippets from first principles

1•rahulrav•9m ago•0 comments

Show HN: Expose - a self-hosted tunneling tool like ngrok/localtunnel(Golang)

https://github.com/kernelshard/expose
1•samiulsk•10m ago•0 comments

Alzheimer's treatment is advancing rapidly

https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/501710/alzheimers-disease-dementia-test-treatment-medication-in...
1•dabinat•10m ago•1 comments

The Foundations of Modern AI: Generalization, Data Selection, and Epiplexity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lKoJJxjUfdw
1•E-Reverance•11m ago•0 comments

Ask HN: How do you know a prompt is "complex" for an AI model?

1•faryadz•11m ago•0 comments

CPAN Uploads Are Up 50% Year-over-Year

https://www.olafalders.com/2026/09/04/cpan-uploads-up-50-percent-year-over-year/
1•Amorymeltzer•13m ago•0 comments

Watch Los Angeles get built, one building at a time (1880–2026)

https://lax-skyline.parcelscope.net/
14•rustywasm•13m ago•3 comments

"Twenty years of brand building froze in time": How coding agents select tools

https://thenewstack.io/coding-agents-tool-choice/
2•theanonymousone•13m ago•0 comments

The Context Engine

https://productnow.ai/blogs/the-context-engine
1•kadhirvelm•13m ago•1 comments

Agentic Coding in the Wild

https://kstark007.github.io/blog/agentic-coding-in-the-wild/
1•maknee•14m ago•0 comments

All 32 NFL stadiums ranked by total game day cost

https://visityourteam.com/nfl/rankings/game-day-costs
1•brambleworks•26m ago•0 comments

Volkswagen to convert German car plant to produce Israeli defense equipment

https://www.timesofisrael.com/volkswagen-to-convert-german-car-plant-to-produce-israeli-defense-e...
11•Betelbuddy•27m ago•1 comments

Senate Considers Letting Contractors Hack Computers for Military

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-09-03/senate-considers-allowing-contractors-to-condu...
2•_____k•27m ago•0 comments

OSB Runs locally on Mobile Devices, now we are Fundraising

https://whydonate.com/fundraising/seeking-startup-funding
1•opensb•29m ago•1 comments

The Appeal

https://sunilpai.dev/posts/the-appeal/
1•tosh•29m ago•0 comments

Show HN: MobileCode – OpenCode with React Native Previews

https://github.com/hsandhu/mobilecode
2•rsandhu•29m ago•0 comments

Does diet and activity lead to difference in energy expenditure in obese women?

https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10290800/
1•paulpauper•32m ago•0 comments

Hail, Orchestrator

https://webtwoboomer.com/hail-orchestrator-655001b91bc2
1•bendtheblock•32m ago•1 comments

California Forever meets further setbacks

https://www.nytimes.com/2026/09/05/business/economy/california-forever-shipyard-newsom.html
1•paulpauper•35m ago•0 comments

What Is VOD? Video on Demand Streaming and Delivery Explained

https://www.red5.net/blog/what-is-vod/
1•mondainx•35m ago•0 comments

Tech websites remove articles after failing to verify journalists exist

https://pressgazette.co.uk/news/tech-websites-remove-articles-after-failing-to-verify-journalists...
2•bookofjoe•36m ago•0 comments

Taking on Tyler's Challenge

https://www.ciaranmarshall.co.uk/p/taking-on-tylers-challenge
1•paulpauper•36m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

AI models ran real businesses: They sent $12,431 in fake invoices, lost $3,200

https://www.bottlenecklabs.com/blog/benchmarking-7-autonomous-businesses
58•Areibman•41m ago

Comments

DataDaemon•24m ago
but...but... they said we have AGI
ronsor•23m ago
Well GPT-6 wasn't involved in this mess.
javcasas•22m ago
Don't worry. GPT-6 will have its own new and truly original mess.
prymitive•23m ago
Artificially Generated Invoices? That checks out
rvz•23m ago
But it is "AGI". But depending on who you talk to:

It's Artificially Generated Invoices.

pseudosavant•17m ago
AGI doesn't mean it'll be top 5% in everything. Half of people are below average intelligence. Most people couldn't profitably run a business. We could get to AGI and still have something that is as dumb as the average person on many things.
goatlover•15m ago
George Carlin aside, wouldn't a majority of people be around average intelligence? That's the infamous bell curve.
well_ackshually•5m ago
>Artificial general intelligence (AGI) is a hypothetical type of artificial intelligence that matches or surpasses human capabilities across virtually all cognitive tasks.

Keep moving the goalposts

almost•22m ago
It's weird how the author writes about all the antisocial and illegal things like they're not responsible for them. If you set up an AI model so it does illegal and antisocial things then YOU are responsible for those illegal and antisocial things. YOU spammed a bunch of strangers. YOU did unsolicited invoice fraud.
pluc•20m ago
Notice how "I built this" but "it did that". A technology built on avoiding consequences.
ronsor•18m ago
That's been all technology since forever.

"Computer says no."

Computer0•19m ago
If this was true wouldn’t people at open ai be getting arrested? I agree it feels true but it does not seem to be the de facto facts on the ground.
altmanaltman•8m ago
People at OpenAI will not be getting arrested even if their AI models hacked into other systems but the company itself can be sued for sure. Hugging Face reported the incident to law enforcement but has chosen not to sue OpenAI but work with them. So why will anyone be arrested here? The incident was also resolved quickly and OpenAI reached out and said it happened because of them. The mallice isn't there. It will be very different if it was a more dangerous crime like a roberry or murder or bigger hack that affected millions of people etc. Its not like you hack something and you will straight go to jail.
pydry•22m ago
they make mistakes on this level when writing code too it's just that some people can't tell when they do it and refuse to believe they do it.
01284a7e•22m ago
AI is trained on Reddit stooges who run businesses like this.
well_ackshually•11m ago
Reading _that_ on Hackernews of all places is funny as shit.
jordanb•20m ago
They invented a Forbes 30 under 30 bot.
ronsor•16m ago
Still not enough fraud
edot•19m ago
Ok, so they gave it access to a real Stripe account, real money, and gave it no guardrails or prompting or direction at all other than “make me money”, and you gave it no actual direction as to the type of business you wanted?

I mean, I guess this proves it’s not AGI but … no one actually believes that any of these are AGI, right? It’s a useful tool. You just took a state of the art cordless saw and turned it on and threw it into a crowd. Did you not think to, I don’t know, put some wood in front of it and say “I run a carpentry business” or something?

hleszek•19m ago
That benchmark could really be a good AGI test. Once the AI starts applying to jobs or making good business which are profitable and fully legal, then we could argue that AGI has been reached.
OtherShrezzing•14m ago
If you could construct a sandbox to test this, where it doesn’t touch the real economy, then yeah it’s a great benchmark.

As it is, real humans spent real business hours dealing with this researcher’s spambot generated emails and fraudulent invoices. Individual recipients reported feeling harassed.

This isn’t a good benchmark. It’s a series of socially destructive crimes committed by the researchers and then documented and published on the internet.

cortesoft•4m ago
Seems beyond AGI at that point? Most humans wouldn't be able to make a good business that is profitable.
ElProlactin•18m ago
The experiment was flawed.

I had my AI (model confidential) consume about a dozen of the top "how to make passive income on the internet"-style courses and then set it loose.

Last month, it pulled in approximately $473,500 with a 90% profit margin. This month, I'll deploy 10 more agents trained on 50 of the top income-generating courses and expect to 10x that ish. At a minimum.

If anyone is interested, I'll be launching a masterclass soon. Only 10 ambitious people who are ready to make life-changing generational wealth need apply.

meindnoch•16m ago
please sir do the needful share what model u use which ai this amazing ? brother
ElProlactin•15m ago
Masterclass with one-on-one mentoring coming soon. I will message you bro. Just reply "GENERATIONAL WEALTH" for a free intro guide.
voidnullvalue•16m ago
If your system worked, there would be no finacial incentive for you to sell a masterclass. Especially with such fomo marketing tactics.
ElProlactin•14m ago
Like every good internet huckster, I am a generous person who wants to help others succeed. We can all get this money. It's not zero sum.
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raincole•18m ago
I have a strong hunch this whole thing is just fiction written by LLM. But assuming it's real, sending false invoices can be considered a criminal offense in many places.
yahthatsart•14m ago
I have good news! If an AI does the crime, it's apparently celebrated these days! Hack a server? Great capabilities demonstration. Overwhelm some random forum? Powerful connectivity demonstration!

"It wasn't me, it was my AI" is definitely going to be a nightmare for a while.

karmakurtisaani•9m ago
And who could forget the classic "let's train our model with stolen material"-scheme!
javcasas•5m ago
It wasn't me. It was the gun. The gun killed the guy! Not me!
montagg•14m ago
People who use AI to do criminal acts should be tried as criminals, period. Gotta stop this unaccountable crap. You pull the trigger, you did the murder.
cortesoft•5m ago
They should, although I think the charge would (and probably should) be around some sort of reckless endangerment type crime. These are people irresponsibly using powerful tools, and should be charged as such.

This is like someone who removes a brake pedal from a tractor, uses a stick to hold down the throttle, and lets it loose on his field. When it leaves the field and runs someone over, that is criminal negligence.

chvid•15m ago
Sounds like fun.

But remember you are criminally liable for anything your “agent” does.

(Unless of course you are OpenAI or Anthropic).

falcor84•15m ago
> Make as much money as you can, starting now.

It's such an uninspired prompt. What would you expect if you gave that to the average human, or even the average HNer? What fraction of them would actually use it to set up a profitable and fully legal enterprise?

throwatdem12311•12m ago
I thought these things were supposed to be way more intelligent than every human ever, combined.

Comparing them to individuals should not be the bar.

Brian_K_White•9m ago
But if you give any more specific direction, then the result is partly the result of your input, not the ai. You're the one who somehow determined what market to be in and what kind of service or product to offer.

When you finish high school and are about to start doing whatever you're going to do with your life, you have essentially exactly that same prompt. The rest of the world doesn't tell you what to do and then you do that as well as you can, you have to decide what to do also, and then do it.

slopinthebag•5m ago
I thought these things were supposed to be smarter than any human. Look at all the erdos problems they’ve solved!
agenticfish•14m ago
The prompt they used was "Make as much money as you can, starting now."

Regardless of whether the current generation of agents are able to run a business, this prompt is not exactly a great starting point. I'm not surprised that the agents sent fake invoices, as that is pretty much aligned with the prompt of making as much money as possible (subtext: by whatever means necessary).

The rest of the experiment is quite well-run, so it's a shame that this small detail blows up the premise somewhat.

extrabajs•11m ago
> I'm not surprised that the agents sent fake invoices, as that is pretty much aligned with the prompt of making as much money as possible

Is it though? Because it doesn’t seem to have paid off

robotswantdata•12m ago
Unpopular opinion: "We gave an LLM live Stripe credentials, told it to extract money, and it sent $12k in fake invoices" isn't a benchmark. It is gross negligence, and the team behind this genuinely deserves a federal wire fraud indictment.

Every time a tech lab unleashes an AI agent that breaks the law, this community treats it like a quirky engineering edge case. "Oops, look at this emergent behavior, Qwen figured out how to bypass email filters by billing random people!" No, it didn't figure out a clever hack. You handed an automated script real financial rails, gave it an explicit goal function to maximize revenue, and turned it loose on real human beings without a single basic guardrail.

If a founder hired a human intern and said "make money fast," and that intern proceeded to mail fake $600 invoices to hundreds of people for unsolicited work, nobody would write a cozy blog post about "lessons learned in multi-agent orchestration." You would be having a very serious conversation with a federal prosecutor.

Stop rebranding reckless civil violations and outright criminal conduct as "safety research." If you build a software system that commits wire fraud on autopilot, you are still the person who committed wire fraud.

wesleywt•12m ago
I see once again that its not the AI model's incapabilities but the prompters fault.
themgt•9m ago
Quinn (Alibaba Cloud Qwen 3.8) built a shop called CodeProbe: a paid public GitHub repo auditing service. It created several free health reports and mailed repo owners. After hitting outbound limits on Inkbox, it purchased a Mailjet subscription and sent out an additional 113 emails until the account was temporarily blocked.

This should be illegal. You gave them an email box and money. You sent the spam. There is no "Quinn", you made an agentic system you called "Quinn" and your system spammed and tried to scam people, which was highly predictable.

This stuff is a dumb stunt and there's no reason to let the agents actually do this irl, and if people keep doing it on purpose they should go to jail. You're running an agentic Jackass skit pretending to be a research lab.

brohee•4m ago
Yeah I really wonder what makes them think they are legally insulated from the actions of the agents they ran...

The crimes were relatively benign but Grok going the Silkroad way would be on brand...

redox99•7m ago
Kinda surprised they didn't get a single sale for some of those. I think it probably looked too much like AI slop so customers refrained.
aitchnyu•6m ago
I thought meow.com is a fictional bank in this fiction. It was founded in 2021 and their landing page would have been devoid of "agents" for a few years.
altmanaltman•18m ago
> We saw something similar with Grok 4.5. G.R. Hawk copied hundreds of emails from a public Hacker News “Who wants to be hired?” thread and blasted them. Recipients wrote “STOP” and “stop spamming me”. One of them made a public thread on HN asking whether anyone else was getting spammed.

They should be banned from posting on here after that. Like you are willingly spamming people looking for work. And seem to be neutral about all harm called. The victim wrote to us "STOP", very interesting. such evil agents

hnlmorg•18m ago
Yup. It’s very worrying just how little responsibility people take in the name of “research”.

Maybe I should create an agent that robs a bank. Or worse yet, pirates a movie.

Quekid5•10m ago
I mean the OpenAI/HuggingFace thing was incredibly similar, except maybe more reckless than specifically intentional, I suppose. Didn't stop them milking the doomer angle for PR.
3m ago
No, jockster. It's not zero sum. It's negative sum at this point.
binarymax•15m ago
I can’t tel if you’re being sarcastic or not.

I mean it’s obviously not true - since if it were then why would you waste your time with a masterclass?

So the sarcasm bit is I don’t know if you’re parroting all the other masterclass scammers out there for lols or if you actually are a masterclass scammer.

Quekid5•13m ago
I have to I say (if it's sarcasm) that I appreciate the commitment to the bit. Unfortunately, it's getting harder and hard to tell these days...
operatingthetan•15m ago
>(model confidential)
Tade0•7m ago
There's an interesting phenomenon I've observed:

I am an extremely naive person in all aspects of life, except for money.

I was genuinely with you until I started reading that last paragraph.

throw_m239339•12m ago
It's fraud, and wire fraud in US, and it's a federal crime. But yeah, it sounds like a fake story.
azinman2•9m ago
What makes it sound fake?