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Apple is no longer thinking different

9•othmanosx•49m ago
I've never bought an Android device in my life; I switched from Nokia to Apple directly, and I've been buying Apple stuff ever since.

That said, I feel like Apple is no longer innovating; all the stuff I saw in the event and on youtube, these technologies are many years old. They're just changing the colors to make sure people don't mix them, same for the Duo, even the name is stolen.

With all the AI stuff going on, I'd expect innovation to take a leap, peopl using AI to advance a lot quicker, yet I see a tech giant promoting stuff that we saw many years ago. I know that can be said about a ton of other Android features, but Apple tends to perfect every feature they introduce (unlike Google who kills whole projects every other day).

I gotta say though, the execution, the animations, the attention to detail, the user experience, that's still top-notch on Apple, but for a tech giant, I would expect more.

I miss Steve Jobs' "One more thing..."

Comments

mrhottakes•28m ago
Apple isn't really an innovator, at least in the sense of delivering "new" things. Their success is in assessing a market and refining products for consumer adoption.

Mac wasn't the first personal computer but it was well-suited for the mass market, not just "computer people". iPod wasn't the first mp3 player but the first that was easy for regular folks to use. iPhone wasn't the first smartphone, but the first one that people actually wanted.

There's a pattern here.

othmanosx•16m ago
I think you're right, though you're talking about an old era, where the iPhone was truly revolutionary, but how do you think the Duo is different from the other folds now?

the first iPhone was years ahead of its time, but the first Apple foldable is arguably the exact same (if not inferior) to the competition, with the exception of the good user experience we're used to from Apple

mrhottakes•10m ago
Based on the marketing materials, the Duo is different from other folds because: - Runs iOS with lots(?) of attention to UI - Won't break from a piece of dust - IP68 rated - Will actually receive software updates unlike many Android devices

et cetera et cetera

> the first iPhone was years ahead of its time

Not really, not if you were paying attention to the market at the time. It was the first smartphone to put everything in a cohesive package instead of being a weird little computer that could make phone calls, but technologically it was comparable to features that already existed when it released. The real innovation was in UI and product design.

myplantlookup•27m ago
What do you mean by your statement, "no longer thinking different?"
gjvc•21m ago
watch apple launches from 1997 onwards
othmanosx•18m ago
No longer putting in the effort to make themselves distinct from the competition, or make anything different for that matter
mrhottakes•7m ago
How can you make a computer or smartphone that's distinct from the competition? These are commodity appliances built to a price point with some graphic design slapped on top to pretty it up.
joshstrange•17m ago
> these technologies are many years old

That's been Apple's MO for almost forever. Very rarely do they chase the newest tech, instead they wait for it to mature. They didn't invent the smartphone or the touchscreen, they did revolutionize it. It's still to be seen how their Duo holds up and until we can play with it we don't really know. Yes there are Android folding phones, yes there are even passport-style ones, but I've seen plenty of "slop" folding phones from Android manufacturers. We will see how the Duo holds up in real use.

> same for the Duo, even the name is stolen.

Stolen from who? Surface Duo? Did they steal it from their own Powerbook Duo?

> I miss Steve Jobs' "One more thing..."

They literally did a "One more thing" in the event yesterday (and said that line). Yes, it had all leaked already but that's just the reality. There is no hardware product from Apple that doesn't leak nowadays. They are able to surprise with software sometimes and naming but everything else will leak.

I don't disagree that they should be better on the AI front and they are still cleaning up from their massive fuck-up in 2024 but I haven't seen any of their competitors do anything compelling w.r.t. AI either so I'm not quite ready to get out the pitchforks.

haitchfivee•13m ago
Upstarts who dare to think differently may be able to get a shot, since Apple are no longer confidently occupying that space. The shape of a successful upstart would probably have to unbundle Apple, turning their strength into a liability.
allthetime•10m ago
When did they? They just make better versions of what already exists
thepryz•10m ago
Seems a better question is who do you believe is actually innovating today?

Apple has rarely been about providing bleeding edge technology to early adopters. They've always been more concerned with evaluating technology, often building things behind closed doors to explore and iterate, and then only releasing something once they felt it was ready and able to address a defined purpose or need. It's not first to market, but often first to get it right.

Their AI strategy is actually pretty smart when you consider how they're focusing on small, local models with a clear security model. Others are spending billions to make incremental progress on models while Apple can sit back, build integrations that allow users to leverage the best models, and then once a certain level of maturity is reached, Apple can either license models or train their own using the lessons learned by everyone else.

alexfromapex•8m ago
I was not impressed with how wide the iPhone Duo is when folded closed. The whole idea is supposed to be something like a cell phone that expands to something like an iPad. They basically copied the Samsung Galaxy or similar phones with no real innovation.
mrhottakes•6m ago
The Samsung foldables are an entirely different size and aspect ratio; how is the Duo a copy of something entirely different?

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