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Ask HN: If embeddings are so powerful, why are they mostly used for retrieval?

1•Pranav_Ghoghari•43m ago
Vector embeddings natively are capable of much more than just retrieval. Even when OpenAI released their initial embedding models, it mentioned that their embeddings are natively capable of Search, Clustering, Recommendations, Anomaly Detection, Diversity Measurement, and Classification.

But everything is concentrated around Vector DBs and RAG, and is progressing towards GraphRAG and Knowledge Graphs. Why are the other representations being underused? Like, why didn’t they catch up?

Everyone is complaining that RAG is dead, Vector DBs are done, they are expensive, and the ROI is not worth it. I know most of this is noise. Embeddings are meaningful and a part of many production pipelines. But why don’t these people try to get more value out of their existing stored embeddings?

I don’t know if it’s just me being delusional, but I feel there is a lot of hidden potential that is untapped. Why is retrieval so dominant? I mean, yeah, search has throughout history been a really important operation across any data. But the purpose of embeddings itself was to capture semantic relations beyond just search. Is it because search is the easiest to productize and build features around? And other use cases are not so frequent?

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minimaxir•29m ago
Embeddings are very very much used for the use cases mentioned, they're just not sexy to blog about.
Pranav_Ghoghari•7m ago
Trueee,,,the use cases normally are very engineering oriented and not useful for every end user.

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