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iOS 27, iPadOS 27, and macOS 27

https://www.apple.com/newsroom/2026/09/major-updates-for-apples-software-platforms-are-now-available/
93•throw0101d•35m ago

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jjice•24m ago
Updated a bit ago to give Siri AI a go for some basic stuff I've been wanting it to do with personal context. It had some false positives in there, but it's notably better now, pretty fast, and handled context well. It allows you to see where it got the context from, which is great considering that doesn't sound like a very Apple thing to do.
delillos•23m ago
Are they still using Gemini? Curious to see how fast all these AI features will feel.
jjice•17m ago
I believe it's a Gemini derived model that they are running on isolated hardware. So it's not the same servers as Gemini and thus will have potentially different performance.
ezfe•7m ago
They've never used Gemini, and they are not using Gemini here. Gemini and Siri AI are both based on Google technology though.
moralestapia•22m ago
I'll stay w/ Sequoia as long as I can.
gekoxyz•18m ago
I am currently on Sonoma and I was considering to upgrade to get the things that I missed in these years. I think and hope that macOS 27 will be faster wrt Sonoma...
dagi3d•13m ago
I definitely wanted to skip Tahoe by any means and was reluctant about this new version. I recently installed it because the wm I was using (omniwm) wasn't compatible with Tahoe anymore so I had to choose. I have to say it has been completely usable to me after reducing the liquid glass thing as much as the system allows.
throw0101d•22m ago
At the bottom of the press release they have links to individual OS pages:

* iOS 27: https://www.apple.com/os/ios/

* iPadOS 27: https://www.apple.com/os/ipados/

* macOS: https://www.apple.com/os/macos/

* watchOS: https://www.apple.com/os/watchos/

* visionOS: https://www.apple.com/os/visionos/

* tvOS 27: no link.

* Overview: https://www.apple.com/os/?version=no-hero

xlayn•21m ago
Can we please have a 1 release focus on fixing bugs? not more ai but fixing bugs, 1 release where you can disable AI... 1 release to make it faster again, 1 release to polish... not to push the next "game changing UI design..."

the "upgrade to 18.4" took my iphone to 26.whatever and siri got even worst... siri set an alarm for 10:40 (creates one at 12:08)... NO, delete that one, 10 40 (does nothing)... hey siri... (ajum), delete the previous alarm... (done!) now set an alarm at 10:40 (alarm at 4pm....)... eventually you get tired... you go to the alarms app.. and then there is the previous "deleted" alarm and the other one...

gekoxyz•21m ago
Usually I wait until december to install the new iOS on my phone, since most of the time I don't care about the upgrades. This time I installed iOS 27 beta on my phone since the public beta was out, and I had 0 new bugs compared to iOS 26, but it hasn't been the big relief that I hoped for.

Now I am worried about what the new versions of iOS will bring us, I hope that the "we removed the crap" wasn't just a thing of this year, and that iOS will go back to high software standards. Phone prices are really high for me now, and I would like for my poor little iphone 13 to survive another couple of years.

Cockbrand•18m ago
So what's your experience in terms of speed and battery life with iOS 27 on the iPhone 13 so far? I have a 13 mini, and I still haven't gotten over the (perceived) shorter battery life with iOS 26.
lenerdenator•21m ago
I take it this is the one that tosses out Rosetta 2 on macOS?
bayindirh•17m ago
Nope, that's macOS 28.

> Rosetta is available for any Mac with Apple silicon using macOS 27 or earlier. Starting with macOS 28, the next major macOS release, Rosetta functionality will be available only for certain older, unmaintained games that rely on Intel-based frameworks.

Sauce: https://support.apple.com/en-us/102527

andykellr•16m ago
The warning dialog I received the other day while running macOS 27 Beta said that it will be removed in macOS 28.
awestroke•21m ago
New Siri is not available in the EU. And no plans to change that.

I'll probably switch to Android once my phone and watch batteries degrade enough to annoy me

kstrauser•6m ago
There's approximately zero chance Google would go along with the changes that Apple would have had to make to support EU's DMA.
minimaxir•21m ago
Safari does in fact feel snappier.
dgellow•19m ago
Reminder to wait a couple of months before upgrading macOS! Every single time issues are found after a new macOS version, give it a little bit of time before jumping right away on your work machine :)
gekoxyz•17m ago
Don't worry I am still on Sonoma :)
dewey•6m ago
In theory that makes sense, in practice I've never had any issues with updating on day one and it's often necessary if you want to develop for iOS / macOS anyway unless you have a dedicated developer machine.
mjhagen•2m ago
I’ve been running it for a couple months, I’d say we’re pretty much out of danger.
drbscl•18m ago
I wish they allowed iCloud subscribers with older hardware to use cloud-only Siri AI.

I imagine they wouldn't shift as much hardware that way though.

Someone1234•17m ago
I've been using it for several months since the developer beta came out; overall I'm extremely positive on it. One of their better releases that seemingly focused more on quality and refinements than new-features.

Siri is definitely worth using now, even if it remains still a work-in-progress/needs continued refinement. It can surprise you in good ways, but it isn't consistently good yet.

The keyboard remains unfixed, as is tradition. The same issues they've "fixed" like three or four releases now, seemingly are identically broken, and I'm lost faith they CAN fix it.

The iOS Keyboard and Search on Windows, are like the perpetually broken things that both companies have "fixed" every year for the last ten+ years and yet... It is almost farcical as this point.

swinglock•15m ago
How is the keyboard broken? Maybe I'm so used to whatever it is that I'm blind to it.
mathisfun123•7m ago
try using swipe-type on an android and you'll see. the funny thing is it's been this way since the iphone 1 because iphone 1 didn't have swipe-type while very early android did (via "swype").
__patchbit__•7m ago
macOS has the prior keycombo for 'home' and 'end' occupied for other uses.

   command + up/down arrow
I don't know how to read to the bottom of a webpage and jump immediately to the top of page.
devindotcom•6m ago
I personally use the swiping keyboard on ios and it seems to detect the wrong word with an almost malicious frequency. It also randomly Capitalizes things.
theplumber•16m ago
Can the new AI browse the web?
LUmBULtERA•15m ago
Anyone else accidentally upgrade to 26.7 first?
prymitive•14m ago
Is it just me or is clicking “iOS 27” on iPhone showing upgrade screen for 26.7?
bronco21016•13m ago
Having exact same experience as of 2:11p EDT.
gregrobson•13m ago
Same here. Will upgrade and hopefully 27 will show up!
prymitive•12m ago
If it does then do much for focus on quality in this release…
jjtheblunt•9m ago
same. and at the bottom it says "Also Available : iOS 27" with a button which leads right back to iOS 26.7.
owlkeenii•8m ago
Same here. It’s over 5 GB, therefore is not 26.7. Upgrading, let’s see.
jsphweid•13m ago
Nice. Can't wait for all my binaries to suddenly stop building.
hintymad•13m ago
Finally Apple has a screen time that allows different configurations for different time segments. What took them so long? /j
spankalee•11m ago
So if you don't want to use Apple's AI, this brings... faster app launching on iOS? I guess I'll use the Liquid Glass controls, but otherwise this is a dud.
wastedpotencial•11m ago
Not updating from Sequoia until the Liquid Glass era is over.
suprfnk•6m ago
It's really not that bad.
bigyabai•4m ago
...relative to what, Windows 11?
datadrivenangel•4m ago
but it's bad enough to be worth not upgrading.
maaand•10m ago
Did they remove the rounded corners mess?
stevenhubertron•5m ago
Not entirely but its ALOT better then it was.
yieldcrv•10m ago
I’m adding representation to an issue that I hope is fixed:

for the last couple months I’ve been able to record videos and watch those videos but am unable to share them, whether on instagram, whatsapp, airdrop or imessage. some limited luck saving the same video to the file system and sharing from there

searching this issue is notoriously difficult, and there is one partially related thread on Apple support forums talking about spacial h264 and spacial h265 video codecs further complicated by being wrappers, with something suggesting the latter is the issue, the final post having a bewildered user asking for clarification that the iphone can create videos that even it cant use

I looked in my camera settings and there are soooo many switches and file formats now, that its impossible to know which edge case has been run into, and there’s no reset button to put the settings back to their most compatible

I hope this OS refresh fixed that

ezfe•6m ago
> unable to share them

What does "unable" mean?

yieldcrv•3m ago
on instagram, tapping the thumbnail has no user feedback and is never selected

on whatsapp, tapping the same video thumbnail results in a "preparing media" modal that never ends, until pressing cancel

on airdrop, a similar preparing model appears that never makes any progress and only has a cancel button

on imessage, tapping the same video thumbnail results in a circular progress bar overlay, as if it was downloading it from icloud, except it never finishes

unable

Tepix•9m ago
Was just looking over the Safari 27 release notes¹, which is part of macOS 27, and noticed this:

Web Driver

New Features

- Allow your agent to connect to a Safari browser for development and debugging via the Safari MCP server. (176038457)

Related (From July 1st)

Introducing the Safari MCP server for web developers

https://webkit.org/blog/18136/introducing-the-safari-mcp-ser...

So that's interesting. On the other hand, looks like WebXR support for Safari will never come.

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¹ https://developer.apple.com/documentation/safari-release-not...

ksec•9m ago
People who are still on Chrome as main browser should seriously try Safari 27. Compatibility greatly improved, super speedy.

Although for some reason the AI organise tab option is not showing up on me.

dewey•3m ago
I wish they would improve the extension support in Safari. I'm on Safari full time but I always dread the moment I have to install an extension. If the extension even exists (Firefox / Chrome is easy, so developers always do that and they don't have to pay Apple a fee) download some app, then click some button to open Safari settings, then enable the extension there, then give it permissions in the Safari menu bar. Horrible UX.
ecshafer•9m ago
Can this AI integration now mean that Siri can finally just read the wikipedia page of a topic when I am driving? Or can I finally have Siri add a stop at Mcdonalds on google maps during a road trip?
ezfe•8m ago
Adding a stop at McDonalds on Google Maps won't necessarily work unless Google provides the hooks to accomplish that.

But yes, it can give you information on a topic in a way the old Siri couldn't.

dewey•7m ago
I was surprised to see that macOS is 28GB. Is that all the local models that come with it?
Agingcoder•4m ago
I don’t want a new screen time experience , I just want it to work. Much to my surprise, it’s extraordinarily brittle, to such an extent that it’s virtually useless.
GeekyBear•4m ago
I'm looking forward to trying out Safaris new ability to vibe code extensions that will modify websites to remove annoyances.

For developers, there is a new framework (Core AI), that updates the decade old Core ML framework.

> Core AI allows your app to use the latest model architectures and inference techniques across the CPU, GPU, and Neural Engine.

https://developer.apple.com/documentation/coreai

cyberax•2m ago
Can I have my square corners back, please? And while you're at it, add sorting by alphabet in the WiFi networks list. Maybe even a filter field (I know, too advanced, but hey...)

And perhaps make the "System Settings" window scalable horizontally?

No? OK, I'll skip.

visarga•4m ago
(adjacent to keyboard) It has no way to select all text. That makes the whole platform a toy.
shreddit•3m ago
Each time you type the wrong letter there’s a big chance you didn’t miss but the keyboard typed the wrong key anyway.
neutronicus•3m ago
It's unclear to me if they're alleging that it's recently broken. Authoring text on my iPhone has been miserable relative to the Android phones I had prior all 3-4 years I've owned it.
Agingcoder•2m ago
Try an android keyboard and go back to an iphone. Having switched back and forth between both systems it’s quite remarkable how bad the iphone keyboard is. In practice , typing on an iphone means constant typos, bad autofix, and bad suggestions.
nick_•9m ago
I too feel the keyboard is broken but I haven't identified exactly what is broken about it.
DerDerDaIst•8m ago
re keyboard: i don't get how the keyboard on the iphone can be so broken. meanwhile the small keyboard on the ipad works like a charm.

or am i the only one experiencing it like this?

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