Too AI; Didn't Read

51•rfonseca•57m ago

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lemontheme•32m ago

If it’s not worth writing, it’s not worth reading.

That said, wouldn’t it be funny if this site, too, were AI generated?

bonoboTP•21m ago

The other similar site making the rounds, https://noslopgrenade.com/, is indeed in part written by AI as evaluated by Pangram.

nullc•13m ago

I believe that one was discussed with the author on HN, and that they used AI to 'copyedit'. Unfortunately that's a trap because if you make a general copyediting request most LLMs will absolutely slopify your work-- and make edits that are unambiguously bad as well as just making it look like lazy llm output.

The better use is to ask it to point out grammatical and spelling errors, or phrasing which is unclear.. then go fix yourself (or direct highly targeted fixes that don't let it slopify). Never hand the clanker the pen for your writing unless you're looking to subject everyone to your Honest Take That Recontextualizes Everything.

AlexCoventry•3m ago

IME, it's best to ask an AI to criticize your work and suggest changes without providing actual rewrites, and make the changes you agree with in your own voice.

lemontheme•11m ago

Is that with or without the slop grenade examples included, because I can see how those might trigger the detector

bonoboTP•6m ago

Without.

breezybottom•5m ago

AI detectors are useless. I don't know how this forum got so infected with Pangram shills, but at this point they need to be banned.

justhw•11m ago

The irony is it's ai generated. It has codex's markings all over it. That lime green look is a dead giveaway.

slopinthebag•10m ago

it's 100% written by ai lmao

ragequittah•9m ago

I just wonder how many people smugly cry 'slop' and then immediately go ask chatgpt about something they want to know about. I suspect it's a surprisinly large amount.

DragonStrength•6m ago

[delayed]

andrewflnr•5m ago

Those are different though. One is just reading your own slop, the other is trying to make others read your slop. I don't love either one, but it's clear that one is a lot worse.

rexer•5m ago

> If it’s not worth writing, it’s not worth reading.

Would you extend that approach to the conversations you have with AI? If not, why not?

rollinDyno•17m ago

I understand the sensation of disgust when being offered to read a piece of AI slop. However, I'm actually curious about how our sensitivity towards slop will evolve. I imagine people will have varying degrees of tolerance.

Afterall, AI slop doesn't necessarily mean the prompter didn't read. It just means they're OK with the AI phrasing. It's also possible that they read the output and had the AI update with whatever edits they prompted.

Writing this comment makes me more convinced that if us users of AI want our written work to be taken seriously, then we should also share our prompts. I hope we quickly converge into a standard way of sharing the prompts that generated a given product.

criemen•13m ago

I hope that labs are actively working on the voice and writing styles of their models. I don't want to read slop in large part because their prose is overly verbose and complicated. If the models were writing simple sentences in mainstream English, mirroring the vocabulary used by my colleagues, I'd mind less than the current status.

Surely that's something that can be trained for.

bmoathn•7m ago

I think they definitely are. One of the Opus 5.5 selling points in the release announcement was something like "less jargoney / rambling communication"

Might be a long road, but at least we'll have no shortage of good instagram memes in the meantime

senderista•6m ago

This is largely a Claude problem and GPT models don't suffer from it to nearly the same extent.

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cckolon•14m ago

Ironic that this itself is an obvious slop site

tptacek•14m ago

While I agree with the sentiment, this:

If you couldn't bother to read it, why should I?

doesn't follow. You don't know that they didn't read it! Only that they didn't write it. If the point of things like this is to be careful, then be careful.

DragonStrength•8m ago

Well, they can serve it that way. Based on my experience, everyone knows who the person always serving slop on the team is except the person serving slop.

Analemma_•4m ago

To be honest I don't particularly feel the need to give the benefit of the doubt to people who dump 10 paragraphs of AI on me. If they want to give a thorough explanation of it to prove they really understand it, that's fine and I can update on the new evidence, but I'm OK with my default baseline assumption being they didn't read it so I don't need to either.

throwaway0q5347•14m ago

TAI;DR.

I think maybe just AI;DR...?

jmarcher•9m ago

Yes, somebody else came up with that last month (AFAIK): https://www.rickmanelius.com/p/aidr-ai-didnt-read

madcaptenor•8m ago

I came up with it before that but I'm not going to claim I'm the only one, or even that I didn't hear it somewhere and have it get into my weights and stochastically parrot it later.

fb03•11m ago

Really cool!

Reminds me of my own manifesto, which I've written since getting sick of dealing with the hype and gatekeeping machine that surrounds AI based development right now.

https://www.just-prompt-motherfucker.com/

Havoc•11m ago

Really don't like the weird grey yellow sites...they're just ugly

chiatruntime•11m ago

Ironic that this site is AI-generated

kkotak•9m ago

AI Slop; Didn't Bother AS;DB

hajile•7m ago

I’m a fan of AI;DR

phyalow•9m ago

I prefer the simpler “aidr”

bb-connor•9m ago

the irony here is that this entire website is dripping with AI design slop

edit: didn't realize i verbatim repeated what everyone else said

bmoathn•4m ago

Reminds me a little bit of that guy who made his company called "Polsia" about like one-shotting full companies or something. I think he had actual investors, would have loved to be in their internal staff meeting when the intern walked in and said "you know that spells AI slop right"

anonymouscaller•5m ago

Well.. don't think I'll be reading because the site is AI

doginasuit•4m ago

It is hard to know what is getting more tired, AI writing or complaining about AI writing. We get it, we feel the same way.

RomanKornev•4m ago

All the visually noisy parts really don't help it get the point across. More like the opposite.

It should be line https://motherfuckingwebsite.com/

4lx87•4m ago

Most people at my work don't think I'm using AI simply because I instruct it to never use more than two sentences of max 10-15 words each.

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