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Kids turned low-traffic NPR Spotify comments into a secret group chat

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/897/transcript
49•simonpure•53m ago

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paulajohnson•32m ago
Tell me again about how we need to keep children off social media....
catlikesshrimp•24m ago
They tried to impose age verification on OS
RIMR•17m ago
We absolutely need to make efforts to limit kids' exposure to addictive social media mechanisms.

People aren't generally against kids using the Internet to communicate; they are against giant tech companies using children as a captive audience without regard to how their decisions might hurt them.

If kids are misusing a comments feature as a general-purpose chat room, good for them. They figured out how to manipulate the system instead of letting the system manipulate them.

Regardless, we need to regulate social media so that it doesn't harm children, and we need to do so without sacrificing the privacy of every adult (age-gates don't work).

pteraspidomorph•3m ago
This is why we need to rename "social media" to the more accurate "antisocial media". I think everyone reasonable wants kids to be social with each other.
tamimio•11m ago
Good parenting. This is not a technical or legal issue, this is parenting one.
nekusar•3m ago
The problem is for-profit corporate social media.

Fediverse has never hired thousands of psychologists to gamify everything.

Fediverse hasn't added adverts to sell really seedy or blatantly illegal products.

Fediverse hasn't engaged in genocide in Myanmar or Rohinga, or anywhere else.

Fediverse doesn't run mass psychology experiments on unsuspecting users.

But Facebook/Meta, X, and others definitely have.

adaml_623•28m ago
"I would say that I'm definitely a bit hard to get to know because I don't know a lot about myself yet. But I think if you do get to know me, you'll find out I'm a pretty cool person."

Such an excellent line from a young person.

kurthr•25m ago
These unaligned near frontier human agents have escaped containment and are out of control!
sublinear•27m ago
> Before I tell you about the first thing, I just want you to remember our brains were still developing when we thought this was so funny.

Are we seriously going to keep saying stuff like this to enculturate young people?

I used to love NPR (I suppose my brain was still developing), but it's offhand comments like this that show too much ulterior motive and keep driving me away from ever listening again.

semiquaver•20m ago
This American Life is an independent program, not produced or distributed by NPR. The person who wrote that is a TAL producer, not affiliated with NPR.

Also, were you trying out some new vocabulary? enculturate is not appropriate in the context you used it, and it’s not clear what exactly you were trying to convey, other than your own grumpiness, which came through loud and clear.

collingreen•17m ago
What is the ulterior motive?

This sounds like lightly self deprecating nod to something cringey done in their earlier career. What have I missed?

myko•16m ago
I don't get it, what's the issue with the phrase?
xnx•25m ago
The Onion predicted this in 2014: "Teens Migrating From Facebook To Comments Section Of Slow-Motion Deer Video" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a4mMY2Kl3GY)

Reminds me a little bit of the agent improvised coordination schemes.

m4ck_•23m ago
Thats a pretty clever work around… sharing a playlist and using the comments on a podcast as group chat, not sure I’d have come up with that. the kids are alright I guess, good for them.
aprilthird2021•16m ago
The kids only know each other as commenters on a video podcast which just stitched together trending TikTok videos. Since the only consumers of such content are kids whose parents ban them from social media, they got to know each other in that podcast's comments. When the podcast was taken down the kids, who all add each other on Spotify, see the other playlists of the other kids (one named "Chat here") and they go to the podcast in that list and chat there.
Tepix•21m ago
First the chat agents, now the kids!
nyargh•17m ago
Discovered my kid doing exactly this years ago. We purposefully limited all social media, locked dowb devices etc, but life uh.. finds a way.

I was impressed, just had the standard talk about how you have to assume everything you put out on the internet never goes away and that you really have no idea who is on the other side of the screen, never share personal information, etc

Now they are older and are on ridiculous group chats with their friends. Pretty impossible to control tbh. At least they keep me up to date with the latest memes!

TuringNYC•16m ago
Reminds me of the old slashdot post from 25yrs ago that people still chat on
ok123456•14m ago
Just like sid=trolltalk on Slashdot.
tamimio•13m ago
These always happen, whenever you try to block something, people will find an alternative, sometimes using email drafts with shared login to avoid sending an email and gets detected, other times console chats, and now comment sections, and others will follow. It’s why these things (allowing or disallowing to access the internet or PC or whatever) should be done at the family level, not the state, the state has no business to decide how to parent your kids.
pteraspidomorph•5m ago
I really dislike the font on this website. It renders extremely misaligned at small sizes, or is that just my browser?
micromacrofoot•3m ago
I've seen this in a few apps! essentially all you need is an editable text field and some slightly social feature and a handful of kids will collude to use it to circumvent restrictions (of either screen time or school network blocks). Sleep apps, meditation apps, music apps, etc
hyperlinerapp•2m ago
Islamist terrorists have been doing similar things, starting with unsent emails in draft.
valorzard•2m ago
Me and my friends used to do this in middle school/high school with Google Docs.

We would share a Google Docs link with each other and use it to communicate, and then pretend we were doing homework

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