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Ask HN: If you're struggling with p(doom), how are you handling it?

2•pyronite•1h ago
I'm a VP of product at a small marketplace and a former full-stack dev. I use AI agents every day, connected to all sorts of tools, and I let them run on big projects.

Ever since around the time of Jacob Coxon's post, I can't shake the logic that these capabilities will keep growing, proliferate, find their way into the wrong hands, and plausibly lead to mass casualties, or even the optimization of humans out of existence. Whatever you make of Coxon [1], the Hugging Face incident [2], or the frontier labs’ motivations, the argument is what sticks with me. My p(doom) isn't 100%, but it's high enough that I worry about it.

Plenty of AI researchers, of course, feel the same. In AI Impacts' 2023 survey of 2,778 AI researchers, the median estimate was a 5% chance of outcomes as bad as human extinction, and between 38% and 51% put it at 10% or higher. That was three years ago. [3]

What I'm struggling with is that the world seems to be carrying on as normal, either talking around the threat or ignoring it altogether. This feeling is new to me. I’d never believed in any doomsday scenario. In fact, I always thought people who did were more than a little crazy. Now I’m one of them.

I'm still going out with friends, talking with family, saving for retirement. But sometimes it’s hard to deeply care about anything else, including most of what hits the front page. If you feel this too, how are you handling it? And if you think I've got this wrong, I'd honestly like to hear why. It’s not what I want to be feeling about the future.

1. https://techcrunch.com/2026/09/09/gambling-with-our-lives-anthropic-researcher-quits-warns-against-self-improving-ai/ 2. https://simonwillison.net/2026/Jul/22/openai-cyberattack/ 3. https://arxiv.org/abs/2401.02843

Comments

jgrahamc•1h ago
What I'm struggling with is that the world seems to be carrying on as normal, either talking around the threat or ignoring it altogether.

This was pretty standard behaviour during the Cold War. Growing up in England I was well aware that a nuclear war could happen at any time and that England had absolutely no defence. And so we carried on living.

kraken_cult•59m ago
Religion has a way of stirring fear in people. Part of the reason it is so successful is that it can cause existential fear. The yudowskys, the Scott Alexanders, and the Dario Amodeis of the world want you to be in the state of fear because it gives them power over you. And with that power they can create generational wealth and power for themselves and their friends, effectively taking that from you. That's what they are doing at a grand scale.

It's modern day fire and brimstone. "Forgive us our sins and render your flocks unto us, for we are speaking to the natal god".

Look up Yudwowsky's "math pets", his desire to essentially build a cult of women with math PhD's around him to sleep with. It's textbook narcissism that is focused on the self, not the world around him. That is not someone who should be able to dictate public discourse.

saidnooneever•50m ago
someone has to connect the stuff to somehting that causes mass casualities. This is simply not what people do

After 15 years in Cyber i can say it is really easy to cause mass casualties. OT is criminally indefended and can have insane impacts. There is just no benefit for anyone to do such things.

Its not a matter of people not being able to do it. So having more means to do it, i dont think will change that.

People are filled with negativity each day and fear someone wants to destroy all humans. The vast majority of people, even those who make mistakes and do bad things, do not actively want to harm.

its painfuly obvious that the problem is people experiencing massive amounts of fear, not actually those fears being real or not.

What does fear do, and why must we experience it then?

Because fear makes people look externally for security. And security pays $$$$. This is a big reason for large societies to come into existence. To get rid of primal fears.

It is a marketing mechanism older than time itself -_- to get people to hand over their riches based on some probabilities of perceived risk.. usually very low ones. Since they are usually low probabilities, rational people would mostly take the risk, so they get overstated to emotionally trigger people.

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