Meta and Microsoft Limit Employee Use of Claude AI Tools

https://www.rswebsols.com/news/meta-and-microsoft-take-steps-to-reduce-employee-usage-of-claude-ai/

39•speckx•48m ago

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rfgplk•24m ago

So they're going to fall even further behind? Buying puts on Meta and Microsoft, or even better might give it to Fable to handle it for me

outside1234•24m ago

Microsoft is only limiting employees to $10k a month, down from $100k a month. :)

bitexploder•19m ago

Microsoft is like $100bn deep into OpenAI.

iAMkenough•15m ago

I hope leadership isn’t susceptible to falling for the sunk cost fallacy.

RealityVoid•13m ago

Who's ahead, again? Do they have a moat, or just a nice field?

gonzalohm•23m ago

This may be seen as radical. But I think AI tools should be paid by the employee. After all, you should know how to do your work without AI.

Jagerbizzle•22m ago

I could still do my job by typing all code into notepad, but companies don't charge employees for their IDE usage for a reason.

watwut•21m ago

Employer pays tools used for work. Whether they are used to speed up work or to make it possible.

frisbm•17m ago

"employees should foot the bill for tools that directly benefit their billion dollar employers"

kittomic•17m ago

Should they pay for their pipelines too?

After all, they should know how to compile their software. Any automation of that process is cheating their employer.

bayindirh•15m ago

If my employer is not forcing me to use a tool and gives me freedom, I'll be perfectly OK to use my own tools which I bought with my own money.

If my employer is putting scoreboards to see and champion who uses a tool which costs money to use, they shall pay for the tool.

Sorry, I'm not a ladder climber, yet I'm not mindless enough to bankrupt myself.

Benard-dev•22m ago

This is not surprising. Every big lab blocks competitor tools for internal use; it is a data governance thing, not a quality statement.

jvanderbot•12m ago

Right! it seems obvious why: Both these companies want to dogfood their own coding models and stop paying competition.

You can also read this as diminishing returns / AI isn't good enough, etc, but the simplest explanation is that they don't want to send money to Anthropic.

fasterik•6m ago

This, and in addition to dogfooding, incentivizing employees to be more effective with the cheaper models. A lot of problems don't need anything fancy, but it takes more brain power and engineering effort to make that work. By default humans will take the path of least resistance if it's available.

waffletower•19m ago

I should probably know more about Claude's TOS, but it is probably a mistake for these companies not to leverage the plausible deniability of their usage and turn it into a massive distillation resource for their own models.

bpodgursky•17m ago

Limited to $10,000/employee/month lol. This is just to cut off a few people doing absurd things with low ROI. Don't read too much into it.

smy20011•5m ago

That's what you got from 200$ claude sub.

MisterMunchkin•17m ago

My company took away my Claude because it’s too expensive. I feel like there is a reckoning coming. The accountants are finally realising the cost of token maxing.

sergiotapia•11m ago

which is quite sad because opus 5.5 is really good. i say this as an anthropic hater. i wish I could move away to other models like 6.1 sol or deepseek or whatever, but they just all lack something. i _trust_ opus 5.5

i hope other labs catch up, especially chinese labs.

vablings•10m ago

That's pretty stupid. Most people who are incurring significant costs are just tokenmaxxing rather than being efficient with usage. You can get 99% of jobs and work done with Haiku/Luna in a collaberating working enviroment.

I feel like people who are later to the AI game just like to "oneshot" and sink a bunch of usage into generating garbage

ashleyn•15m ago

If you were wondering the same thing I am - it's not about skills loss, quality, and less about money spent. It's more about frontier AI shops dogfooding their own models.

techdmn•15m ago

I assume that at shops that both employ engineers and are developing an AI product, internal usage is not about improving productivity, it is about improving the offering. Of course they want employees to use internal tools.

rietta•10m ago

Maybe I am slow here and everyone is using Claude with credits at max use. But isn't Claude Teams like $25/month per developer for ordinary use? What the heck of these guys doing that makes it get that phenomenally expensive for their use cases? These are presumably well capable engineers who started to use this as an aid right not just throw Fable at everything and loop to the max?

catchnear4321•10m ago

Team plan has a seat limit.

raincom•8m ago

Large companies will take the same route as Meta and Microsoft. Small players will go for local LLMs with the right hardware.

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