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Citroen revives the 2CV for an electric age

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c620r33plgppo
17•scrlk•48m ago

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forestingfisher•35m ago
I'm really digging Citroen's design recently. Along with Renault and Hyundai, they feel like cars from the future instead of the bloated aggressive and angular design we've come to expect
PorciiVorbesc•31m ago
>As they face mounting competition from Chinese manufacturers, Citroen and other European brands are exploiting their heritage as a means of selling modern motors

Heritage and vintage looks, will only take you so far. Working class people still choose best bang/range for the buck car since their car is a tool, not a fashion statement bag.

skywal_l•24m ago
There must be the equivalent for "first as a tragedy then as a comedy" saying for commercial product. "first as a tool then as a totem" or something like that.
YesThatTom2•13m ago
Point taken but I’m pretty sure working class people choose based on initial cost, not bang/range for the buck.
epolanski•6m ago
Citroen is already the Stellantis' equivalent of Skoda niche for Volkswagen.
sdcfgy•29m ago
I rather like this. Apart from the interior. Hopefully a production design will have some of the idealisms from the designer removed and replaced with more practical choices. It is however a near ideal cheaper end car for most European countries.
robotmay•9m ago
If they actually deliver something for their target price of around £13k then I'd be very impressed - that would truly be embracing the 2CV heritage in making something attainable for the people.

And agreed, I quite like this design. It doesn't feel as bulky as many modern "retro" cars, like the Mini variants.

epolanski•5m ago
Point is: those cars differentiate little to nothing among themselves except in design gimmicks.

The latest Grande Panda is an example of that.

thomasfl•23m ago
There is nothing wrong with nostalgia. Some property developers makes money from nostalgic architecture. Fashion clothing is often a mix of new and nostalgia.
m000•7m ago
The problem in this case (and many others) is that nostalgia is limited to the form, bordering on fetishism, while the utilitarian and economic aspects of the original are brushed aside.

From TFA: "The car had high wheel arches and soft suspension, letting it travel across a ploughed field or rough roads - as legend would have it, without breaking a tray of duck eggs. Its high roof let drivers wear a hat at the wheel. It was easy to drive and simple to repair."

Which of those qualities have been retained in this 2CV revival?

sl-1•13m ago
I hope they succeed, but probably will fail with too complex design. Original 2cv is wonderfully simple. If they can keep that simplicity, they will win.
hn_submit•5m ago
I've always been amazed why the 2CV is seen as a styling icon. It's a bare-bones car from the 1930's which didn't get produced until the late 40's due to the war. By the time production ramped up it was hopelessly outdated.

The only thing positive that can be said about the modern iteration is its $15K price. But for that money you're not getting a real car but a city roundabout with very limited range and speed. The Chinese BYD Seagull is a real car for $10,000 which is quite large to boot.

It's positive that European carmakers are finally catering to the wallets of their customers. No one is clamoring for an electric $50K VW Rabbit (VW Golf).

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