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AI Safety Is Not a Corporate Plot

https://www.astralcodexten.com/p/ai-safety-is-not-a-corporate-plot
3•jefftk•42m ago

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thingsilearned•36m ago
Really well put. I hope this article can finally put to bed this very frustrating dismissal.

Many debates about AI are complicated and hard to resolve, but this one isn’t: all of these stories are clearly false. Some evidence:

The AI experts who aren’t affiliated with big companies are just as concerned as the ones who are.

The AI company leaders giving these warnings were giving the exact same warnings before they had AI companies - and in many cases, before they worked in the industry, or before the industry existed.

If these corporate plots were real, they would be incredibly dumb.

verdverm•19m ago
Those people are bat shit crazy, some random blog is not going to change my mind on that. There are Ai experts who disagree with them, who are not in the big lab friend circle / echo chamber. There are security experts who are not concerned so much that they are telling everyone humanity is doomed if we don't... give the labs complete control over who can use Ai and for what... do you want to speedrun 1984?

Sam Altman has a history, Silicon Valley has a history, the corporate elites and oligarchs have a history. Why should I believe this instance is free of that history?

Perhaps Dario is advocating for things that would amount to a ban on open weights out of fear, that does not change the effect, and I do not believe the more savvy investors do not see the benefit for that regulatory control. Open weights (real competition, not tech cartels) will undermine their financial projections. There is no way I'm going to believe the people who have been doing this for decades are not doing it here too, especially with the most corrupt administration this country has had in my life.

swid•10m ago
There is more than one kind of corporate plot though. The article defends against the kind where some people inside a cooperation have some idea to make more money with unsavory methods, in an imagined backroom I suppose, and then use corporate resources to pursue that plan to achieve their goals.

In this case, we have a bunch of people who believe something. Some of them get jobs in that field. They notice their belief could be beneficial to their company (and make them more money), and so using corporate resources to amplify this viewpoint is well justified spend to help them achieve their goals.

In my view, there is little difference in the outcome between the two and probably the line is very blurry... do people in the 2nd case sometimes say the quiet part outloud? Do people in the first often believe they are only doing what is right and rational without finances considered?

Often these posts come straight from the top of AI companies with specific policy goals in mind. What good will come from understanding Amodei / Altman's "true" motives anyway?

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