Deepfake of Washington County, Oregon, Candidate Goes Viral Nationwide

https://www.oregonjournalismproject.org/deepfake-of-washington-county-oregon-candidate-goes-viral-nationwide

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peder•51m ago

This story is fake; the flag was in fact upside down: https://x.com/alx/status/2112383598934573506

https://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=https://lookaside.fbsbx...

cortesoft•46m ago

And you trust this source because?

gruez•44m ago

As opposed to trusting "Oregon Journalism Project"?

peder•38m ago

It's from their own Facebook page, it's the Google Image Search results from their own page.

ofjcihen•37m ago

“Before they deleted them” aka no way to check if this is BS.

peder•34m ago

Nonsense, the google image search result clearly still has the linkage established. There's nothing fake about it.

peder•34m ago

And why wouldn't you question why they deleted the original lol

ofjcihen•32m ago

That’s not the question. The question is “were they even there” before the “screenshot”.

As an example, I can screenshot your comment and have AI edit it to have you say “I really enjoy misleading people on the internet for money”, post it, and then say “I took this screenshot before they deleted it.”

rideontime•30m ago

Please just look at the bottom left corner of the "real" image.

peder•

DFHippie•44m ago

I don't understand why the people manipulated with lies aren't offended at the liars. They are primed to believe the lies, but aren't they mad that someone sought to manipulate them?

This keeps happening because it works. But why does it work? Why isn't there blowback?

jplusequalt•35m ago

Truth isn't important anymore.

dabinat•33m ago

Because they want it to be true.

happytoexplain•27m ago

It's embarrassing. Instead, they tell themselves, "well, it could have just as easily been real."

This has always been the case.

However, the more interesting thing going on is that we have never had to reckon with this problem anywhere near as much as we do now, since the barrier to creating fakes has been reduced from "skilled software user" to "all five billion humans who can write".

gruez•26m ago

The ironic part is that the veracity of the debunking is being questioned, so depending on how this turns out, this could either be referring to "haha dumb right wingers falling for AI generated meme" or "haha dumb left wingers falling for AI generated debunking". Truly a rorschach test of a comment.

edit: the story was retracted so the "people manipulated with lies" are the people who believed oregon journalism project?

rideontime•39m ago

As much as I hate to have to defend Jack Posobiec (aka EndWokeness), saving the "real" screenshot from this article and uploading it to OpenAI's verification tool[0] indicates that it, in fact, was AI-generated. I welcome any correction on this.

[0] https://openai.com/research/verify/

e: Okay, now I feel stupid for even bothering to do that. Look below her name and you'll see the leftovers of the old flag.

edit 2: Retracted. https://www.oregonjournalismproject.org/editors-note-october...

ofjcihen•36m ago

Unless I’m missing something all of the pictures in the article and on X that it links to return as being AI generated?

rideontime•32m ago

There's only two images in the article, the "real" (fake) image (which appears twice), and the screenshot of the tweet; the latter returns "No OpenAI signals detected" for me, unlike the other.

ofjcihen•30m ago

I’m including all of the images linked in both.

And now that you’ve said that I’ve retried the same image 5 times and gotten AI 3 times and Not AI twice.

Something tells me that tools is about as reliable as Pangram.

rideontime•26m ago

Then just try looking in the bottom left corner of the "real" image to see the leftovers of the upside-down flag. The SynthID watermark isn't even necessary here to spot the obviousness of the fake.

rideontime•20m ago

OJP has published a retraction. https://www.oregonjournalismproject.org/editors-note-october...

gruez•10m ago

In that case, lmao at all the people who were downvoted to grey (or rather, the people who downvoted them into grey), despite being in the right.

screenshot for posterity: https://i.postimg.cc/vTCTyYZ1/Screenshot.png

rideontime•6m ago

It's not unreasonable to expect End Wokeness to be spreading more lies about Somalian immigrants, given his track record. But the truth here was obvious to anybody willing to simply look at the evidence.

Sabinus•8m ago

>A Fai campaign supporter then provided a different video of the event to OJP that showed the flag right side up.

It would be interesting to know where the "corrected" deepfake originated.

gruez•1m ago

Given that it shows clear signs of manipulation (inconsistent stripes, openai watermark), my guess is that the "supporter" decided to "clean up" the image to make it more palatable for public consumption, not necessarily with intent to deceive. A few days later Oregon Journalism Project saw the contradictions between a post from "End Wokeness" and their image, and thought "ah ha! those right wing agitators were making deepfakes", not realizing it was their image that was manipulated.

georgemcbay•6m ago

Candidate shouldn't have lied here (which seems likely based on the available evidence) and should have just owned it. Flying an upside-down flag is a perfectly patriotic thing to do in 2026, IMO, speaking as a white male, many-generational American. America is very much in distress.

But it is also ridiculous that the people predisposed to the other side (and who only made a big deal out of the original clip in the first place because they are racist misogynists) will hold up this relatively insignificant lie as some sort of an outrage while pulling the lever for the likes of Trump who lies as easily as he breathes.

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