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eMudhra ignored Mozilla Root investigation deadline; blames social media

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2083449
47•IcePenguin•1h ago

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IcePenguin•1h ago
eMudhra's recent response regarding their Intermediate CA private key compromise, citing social media activity and investor relations as blockers to technical investigation and analysis: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2083449#c39

> "There are a lot of questions here. As most of you can imagine, we have been subject to intense social media scrutiny and analysis by investors/customers over the last few days and it has made doing any meaningful analysis of the event pretty much impossible."

Mozilla Root Program's update, stating that eMudhra has not responded to investigatory questions within deadlines (and had provided an extension): https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2083449#c42

> "The Mozilla Root Program sent the attached questions to eMudhra on the 20th October at 20:31 UTC. eMudhra was asked to provide an initial response within 24 hours. After the deadline passed on October 21st, eMudhra asked for a further 24 hours to respond. As of the time of writing on Friday 23rd, Mozilla has not received a response to these questions."

patjensen•56m ago
Revoked.
IcePenguin•52m ago
Previous HN discussions:

eMudhra intermediate CA compromise

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50166579

1271 points | galadran | 3 days ago | 504 comments

--

Eight Bits of Trust: eMudhra's CA keys cracked in milliseconds

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50177916

935 points | hkc | 2 days ago | 460 comments

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eMudhra to exit global SSL/TLS certificate business

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=50195110

1111 points | bo0tzz | 1 day ago | 713 comments

ForHackernews•23m ago
This seems like a fair response to me:

> There are a lot of questions here. As most of you can imagine, we have been subject to intense social media scrutiny and analysis by investors/customers over the last few days and it has made doing any meaningful analysis of the event pretty much impossible. The event happened on April 30 2025 and was done by set of people who have worked in the PKI industry for several years and worked with us for a while. There is a lot of digging we need to do to understand the circumstances, why, what, how to share a meaningful report that can hopefully benefit the community. I do not know why some community members think we wont be getting back on this bug. When we signed up for the browser program trust, we also signed up for disclosure obligations to the community which we will uphold.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2083449#c39

ETA- HN rate-limiting won't let me reply, but to the commenter asking how all the pressure could delay a sober analysis:

I've never been involved with a mess like this, but I can well imagine it's difficult to convene the necessary people for a dispassionate RCA when your bosses are furious and investors are screaming for scapegoats to fire.

wolvoleo•20m ago
No it does not. How does social media upheaval make internal analysis impossible?
thumbsup-_-•14m ago
because they are more interested in saving the image on social media than doing the right thing.
InsidiousWombat•11m ago
If some social media nonsense makes it hard for you to do internal investigation on the problem that shows that you're organisationally incompetent in addition to whatever else in the process failed.
skeledrew•10m ago
If you can't take the heat...
bauruine•9m ago
Those are just more reasons to remove every cert they ever touched.
roblabla•7m ago
> I've never been involved with a mess like this, but I can well imagine it's difficult to convene the necessary people for a dispassionate RCA when your bosses are furious and investors are screaming for scapegoats to fire.

In any sane business, the people handling the screaming investors are different from the people handling the social media mess, and they are also different from the people doing the RCA.

That said, given the mess, I wouldn't be surprised if eMudhra only had one employee responsible for all those jobs...

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