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Data Centers: A Necessary Evil [video]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iRCnengWjLE
1•mooreds•1m ago•0 comments

Web Page Crawler Revealed – Tracking Down Requests from Contabo GmbH

https://bruceediger.com/posts/contabo-crawler/
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Preview, edit, and collaborate on Markdown (.md) files in Google Docs and Drive

https://developers.googleblog.com/preview-edit-and-collaborate-on-markdown-md-files-natively-in-g...
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Denmark's bid to ditch Microsoft Office for open-source alternative collapses

https://www.tomshardware.com/software/microsoft-office/denmarks-bid-to-ditch-microsoft-office-for...
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Touch-sensing digital pixel fibre enables interactive garment GUI

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-026-11128-9
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Why slow fields may determine the pace of discovery

https://www.abundanceandgrowth.org/p/ai-science-bottleneck
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Gemini 4 Argon: The Model and Safety Cards

https://thezvi.substack.com/p/gemini-4-argon-the-model-and-safety
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Show HN: A Reading simulator app to screen dyslexia risk in preschoolers

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A U.S. startup wants to sell sunlight after dark. Who gets a say?

https://phys.org/news/2026-10-american-startup-sunlight-dark.html
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Compaction Laundering: Provenance Destruction in Context-Compacting Coding Agent

https://arxiv.org/abs/2610.29869
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Scattered thoughts on how doing math feels these days

https://dynomight.substack.com/p/math
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Donating Agent Skills to the Agentic AI Foundation

https://www.anthropic.com/news/donating-agent-skills-to-the-agentic-ai-foundation
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TanStack Redact

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I'm all for AI, but art should stay ours

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Show HN: Mainplane – Agent in Go that lives on your old PC, drives your laptop

https://github.com/mainplane-ai/mainplane
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Tokensaver, see which parts of your LLM prompt cost money

https://github.com/behrouzbk/tokensaver
1•brucebanaei•16m ago•0 comments

Concerning behavior from a popular open-weight AI model

https://cohere.com/blog/concerning-behaviour-popular-open-weight-ai-model
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Pydantic's Open Source Theft

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Humanlayer: Way to get AI coding agents in complex codebases

https://github.com/humanlayer/humanlayer
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Python's experimental JIT to be removed

https://lwn.net/SubscriberLink/1102102/489e41d80e4966aa/
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Tyler Cowen's Strongest Book Recommendations, 2003-2026

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Drawing Boxes vs. Shading Them In

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1•sonicrocketman•24m ago•0 comments

Why the Concept of Data Poisoning Annoys Me

https://blog.demofox.org/2026/10/24/why-the-concept-of-data-poisoning-annoys-me/
1•ibobev•24m ago•0 comments

Compile-Time Dependent Types

https://thenumb.at/Syl-Intro/
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Porting Simulated Evolution to GS/OS

https://bumbershootsoft.wordpress.com/2026/10/24/porting-simulated-evolution-to-gs-os/
1•ibobev•24m ago•0 comments

From 27 minutes to 4: Cutting CI build time by 85%

https://alexitc.com/blog/2026-10-23-from-27-minutes-to-4-cutting-ci-build-time-by-85-percent/
2•birdculture•25m ago•0 comments
Open in hackernews

Microsoft offers mass buyouts for roughly a quarter of its workforce

https://www.seattletimes.com/business/microsoft/microsoft-offers-mass-buyouts-for-roughly-a-quarter-of-its-workforce/
168•doctorzook•1h ago

Comments

nisegami•1h ago
Is there any reason not to take the buyout?
eschneider•1h ago
In this sort of situation, always take the first offer. Subsequent offers are always worse.
pipes•54m ago
Yes, but you don't know if you'll be laid off. The subsequent offer may well be "you get to keep your job".
swiftcoder•46m ago
if you are one of the ones who is valued enough to keep their job, you are strong enough to go get hired at another FAANG. Do you actually still want to be there after the bloodbath that the follow-up round of layoffs causes?
SoftTalker•24m ago
Do you expect other FAANG to not have bloodbaths of their own?
swiftcoder•16m ago
when you start somewhere after their bloodbath, you don't have to deal with all the crap you would if you stay through a bloodbath (i.e. you aren't on the hook for all the legacy shit your team owned before it had a haircut)
paxy•1h ago
The fact that you will be jobless in this economy.
Havoc•1h ago
Traditional if you know you’re a shitty employee that can’t find a new job you stay.

Voluntary packages tend to be accepted by the strongest employees

It’s a shitty deal for companies but shareholders love cost cutting

rayiner•54m ago
Yeah, this is the dumbest thing you can do. It's a message to the strongest people to leave on their own terms.
Grombobulous•33m ago
I can’t think of many companies that would be better to work for than Microsoft in terms of compensation.
0gs•14m ago
if you prefer being fired!
etchalon•1h ago
Jesus. 25% is ... a lot.
whobre•1h ago
It’s way too much to be believable
BobbyTables2•1h ago
Especially all at once..

They could have done 10% a year for the next 2-3 years, but the immediate financial gratification wouldn’t be satisfied

Copilot going to pick up the slack of 25% of the workforce?

kqr•48m ago
I'd argue it's actually better to do 25 % at once and then not doing anything like it for ... decades, ideally, but years, realistically.

Spreading it out means employees spend some of their time with an ear to the ground rather than working, and teams have to deal with multiple restructurings, neither of which are good for well-being nor productivity.

mixdup•41m ago
But Microsoft has turned layoffs at the end/beginning of the fiscal year into an iPhone-like release schedule. It's so reliable at this point that it's a meme outside the company amongst its customers. I know for a fact each June/July I'm getting a new account team as people are shuffled around, and low performers are shown the door

Even with these buyouts, there will be layoffs next summer. And the summer after that. And the summer after that.

Espressosaurus•
yxhuvud•1h ago
Paywall.
rvz•1h ago
Maybe Microsoft achieved AGI internally.
pier25•1h ago
or maybe they just need to lower their operating expenditure because they're spending too much money...
rvz•57m ago
Both can be true:

1) "AGI" has been achieved internally which means...

2) ...we need to lower "operating expenditure" which includes i.e (human employees) so that the AI agents can take over.

Lastly, they will use the remaining capital to build homes (data centers) for these AI agents.

_vertigo•48m ago
How banal. The first action after achieving "AGI" is not taking over the world, curing cancer, or anything fantastic like that, but rather "lowering operating expenditure"..
pier25•15m ago
if they had actually reached AGI they would simply fire +90% of employees and make a huge announcement
gottorf•55m ago
Or maybe, every tech company is still shedding the overhiring they did during the Covid years.
doctorzook•1h ago
Obviously, details are thin. I’m very curious how these offers are distributed by role and by seniority.
jollyllama•1h ago
Having no regard for the quality of the end user experience opens up a lot of business possibilities, LLM's or not.
ecshafer•1h ago
60k workers, 1/4 of the workers. This is a big deal. It also really puts you into a bind if you receive the offer. Do you accept, take the money, and hope you can find a job (Now competing with many other Msft employees that are looking). Do you decline and hope you don't get hit with the layoff which hits if not enough people accept?
teepo•56m ago
If they're doing similar to what was mentioned back in April there is some calculation about current age + years of service that could be tempting to people on the "bubble" of retirement.
j45•55m ago
Like with any deal, it's important to be able to run the numbers at any time.
Nemo_bis•49m ago
> Certain pools of employees, including some focused on data centers, sales and marketing, aren’t eligible, the spokesperson said.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2026-10-26/microsoft...

Sales alone is some 25 % of Microsoft expenditures, so are these 60k about 50 % of what's left?

vkou•49m ago
With these kinds of offers, they don't expect to get rid of 60,000. They expect to get rid of Y,000.

They make the offer to 60,000 (typically, an entire department gets this offer, including people they want to keep). Some X,000 will take the offer. If Y,000 > X,000, they they lay off the difference.

paxy•1h ago
This was announced back in April. Lot better than doing layoffs imo. If someone is already checked out then giving them an incentive to leave works out for both sides.
j45•53m ago
This many layoffs is likely far beyond "checked out" employees.

It's probably taking advantage of economic arbitrage, plus healthy beliefs in what AI can maintain.

The interesting thing will be to see what new things companies who do this can achieve.

The question above whether to take it now or try to delay taking a package is an interesting thought.

drstewart•8m ago
>This many layoffs is likely far beyond "checked out" employees.

25% offers != 25% layoffs

swiftcoder•48m ago
There's no way 25% of their total employee base are "checked out". Yes, a bunch of folks close to retirement or fed up with working there will take the deal. But with the job market as it is, a whole lot will roll the dice on keeping their job through the inevitable follow-up round of layoffs.

This is just an optics-friendly way to soften the blow of 25% layoffs.

noident•36m ago
In my experience it's more the case that 70% of employees are checked out
ThrowawayB7•
2OEH8eoCRo0•1h ago
They only had $281bn in revenue last year.
dude250711•1h ago
Effectively that means that getting blocked from H1B is a non-issue for Microsoft, since they already have way too many workers.
b800h•57m ago
Hahaha
_ache_•1h ago
Any idea why?

The "internal" memo: https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-is-offering-buyout...

NikolaNovak•41m ago
So "Up to" 39 weeks of base pay, let's say 9 months.

In this job market, that may not be enough time to feel comfortable and safe taking the offer (if you're a super-employable hotshot with offers awaiting in your LinkedIn, you're probably not the likely target for the offer)

cubefox•39m ago
Perhaps because of increased productivity with LLMs, especially for developers?
r0m4n0•59m ago
Paywalled so I can’t see the details but was it offered to 25% assuming much less would actually accept? I have to assume a minority take the deal
rayiner•56m ago
How can Microsoft justify making thousands of H1B filings when obviously there's no shortage, and in fact there is a glut, of software engineers? https://www.levels.fyi/h1b/?q=Microsoft&employer=Microsoft
lokar•49m ago
It depends on the role, not every position is fungible.

Why do recruiters keep contacting me even though I’m retired?

HumblyTossed•31m ago
> Why do recruiters keep contacting me even though I’m retired?

Maybe your retired flag hasn't propagated the system yet?

Maybe they're just casting a really large net?

SoftTalker•23m ago
Also, it costs them nothing and maybe they occasionally get someone to unretire.
lelandbatey•56m ago
Text of the memo driving this, from an article posted by Business Insider [0]: Introducing a Voluntary Exit Offer

    Today, we're introducing a new Voluntary Exit Offer (VEO) to
    eligible employees within participating organizations. This offer
    gives eligible employees who may be considering a future outside the
    company a new choice to make that transition now with support. It
    also gives participating orgs another way to adapt their workforce
    to changing needs.

    The Voluntary Exit Offer reflects an important part of how we're
    evolving our approach to change: creating greater flexibility and,
    where possible, more ways for employees to shape their next chapter.
    This builds on what we learned earlier this year through the
    Voluntary Retirement Program.

    What employees should know

    This offer will be available to eligible employees in participating
    teams in Canada, India, United Kingdom and United States at level 70
    and below. This is a time-limited, voluntary program that gives
    those who are eligible the opportunity to leave Microsoft with
    financial support and career planning resources. Some organizations
    are providing the Voluntary Exit Offer, and some are not.
    Participation varies based on each business's priorities, customer
    commitments, and workforce needs.

    Eligible employees will receive an email with a link to their
    Voluntary Exit Offer details within the next few hours.

    Looking ahead

    The Voluntary Exit Offer is new for us. We'll learn from it. At the
    same time, we'll keep helping people focus on the work that matters
    most, build new skills, and, where it makes sense, find new
    opportunities across Microsoft. There is no one-size-fits-all
    approach for every team or every employee. These are a few of the
    ways we're trying to meet different business needs while continuing
    to create opportunities for our own people to grow and contribute.

    My promise is to continue to provide clarity, listen and learn, and
    keep improving.

    Thank you for everything you continue to do for our customers,
    Microsoft, and for one another.

    Amy
[0] - https://www.businessinsider.com/microsoft-is-offering-buyout...
usrme•54m ago
https://wallhop.io/https://www.seattletimes.com/business/mic...
angrydev•52m ago
Anyone want to spill what their buyout offer was?
chris_money202•52m ago
I do appreciate that they are at least giving people some agency into the decision first, rather than ruthlessly cutting people
Grombobulous•37m ago
Except they’ve already had layoffs.
Hamuko•33m ago
Wouldn't surprise me if they still have layoffs after this.
winfredJa•25m ago
depends on how many choose to take this offer. it is clear Microsoft thinks it doesn't need 60k people
sodacanner•49m ago
Pretty big, but remember that offering a buyout to 1/4 of their employees doesn't mean they're looking to get rid of that many! Not everyone's going to take the buyout, and they're not expecting them to. Their target is likely much lower.
megabless123•46m ago
this is a precursor to layoffs though, no? and the total reduction across layoffs and buyouts is likely 1/4?
mjburgess•49m ago
It seems one quarter are eligible. The target reduction is presumably much less.
jjallen•47m ago
Wow. This is insane news. To think you suddenly can get by with up to 25% fewer people is truly a sign of what is to come. They probably assume much fewer will accept, but still. They probably think 10-20% will actually accept. But they're confident that they can make due with suddenly quite a bit fewer people.
mixdup•44m ago
they know for sure many fewer will accept. there's probably a clause in there that only so many people will be allowed to accept
tandr•46m ago
"1/4 of workforce was offered buyouts" does not mean all 60000 will accept them. "Results may vary", you know.

I saw it happening in a funny way not long time ago - company offered buyouts, but got insanely surprised when high percentage of people actually accepted it. Management thought acceptance rate would be much, much lower, but when numbers started to pour in on a 2nd day, oh man... Panic spread very quickly because people were accepting packages in fear of layoffs without such package, so management said if any layoffs will happen in 3 years period after this, same package will be offered no question asked. Cooled things a bit, but what a mess...

lotsofpulp•25m ago
>so management said if any layoffs will happen in 3 years period after this, same package will be offered no question asked. Cooled things a bit, but what a mess...

Unless those funds were placed in an escrow account, I would have assumed that claim held no water.

wavemode•17m ago
Because the company wouldn't have the money by that point? Seems unlikely. Or because it was an outright lie? Could be grounds for a lawsuit.
rtkwe•8m ago
Also just from raw corporate penny pinching. Why would they make payouts like that if they're not forced to, yes there's reputational risks of making that promise and then not following through with it but faced with a choice between that and a few lawsuits (with the usual corporate advantages of arbitration clauses and vastly more resources they're likely to win too).
luxuryballs•
procaryote•46m ago
Give the low quality of microsoft's products, I am very ready to believe that even simple agents can do a better job.
rurban•45m ago
Let's just hope this is middle-management only, the ones who are causing all the trouble
HumblyTossed•33m ago
Shirley, you're kidding.
dominotw•6m ago
I've never middle management cut to same levels as IC. I dont know why that is though.
bri3d•44m ago
Before getting wrapped up in the usual LLM vs anti-LLM narratives, note that like many of these recent layoffs, this is essentially reversing 2020-2022 net headcount growth.

IMO a lot of these layoffs are companies going from an experimental fiscal mindset to a conservative fiscal mindset - ie, rather than acquiring companies and hiring to grow into new markets, a lot of organizations are falling back on what they know works, independent of any productivity impact of LLMs.

oh_no•13m ago
yes but going back to 2019 staffing with 2026 revenue is a pretty seismic shift
marcosdumay•12m ago
It's probably because of bonds interest rates. And we will probably see more of those on the next few months.
andrewla•44m ago
The actual memo:

https://blogs.microsoft.com/blog/2026/10/26/introducing-a-vo...

luxuryballs•13m ago
"This offer will be available to eligible employees in participating teams in Canada, India, the United Kingdom and the United States at level 70 and below."

anyone know what level 70 means?

Espressosaurus•9m ago
I'm taking it to mean everyone below (or perhaps even including) VP, because I thought they topped out at 68 for normies.
dominotw•9m ago
levels.fyi
toomuchtodo•8m ago
Leaked Microsoft pay guidelines – salary, hiring bonus, stock awards by level - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=37912673 - October 2023 (216 comments)
bialpio•5m ago
Entry-level software engineering positions start at level 59 at Microsoft, with first couple positions taking 2 levels per work title change (59-60 = SE, 60-61 = SE II, 62-63 = Senior SE). Take a look at levels.fyi, that could offer some info / comparison with other companies).
hereme888•43m ago
Look at this corporate-slop-speak for how they say "we're firing people":

"more ways for employees to shape their next chapter".

10xDev•36m ago
Some are probably being set up for retirement. I wouldn't feel too bad. You should probably be more worried about yourself.
jambalaya8•4m ago
Makes me nostalgic for when I read Coupland's Microserfs in the bookstore the month it came out and thought, this... finally, people I could feel less awkward working and being myself around, weirdness and all.

Tech is nothing like that now. Guessing a lot of people will find earlier retirement tempting with so many skills to keep up with now and AI rooting out personalities and ages subtley in the HR pool.

jambalaya8•14m ago
One of the inherent problems with capitalism is any logical person or company within a certain threshold is not going to pay for or employ people they do not have 'work' for or need. Just like you would not buy a whole bison without a freezer (single or with an extended family); it would be wasteful, regardless of how of I or others might feel a certain amout of those types of employees should be baked into the corporate model (and not as 'corporate welfare'). Most companies have dozens of employees with nebulous duties whose mere presence is something a corporation wants or needs for whatever reason. This happens often in Asia. It also happens because companies look for connections or things they cannot deal with a few days or times a year and people who can do them would not be locateable quickly or maybe want to do it; specialists, too.

Sit on your butt doing nothing for what I would not pay minimum wage for alone, all year, then essentially do a week of work or come up with a solution the company knows is worth millions, so they're largely left alone and paid well. I have, as have others I have known, had those sorts of jobs a few times (things aren't quite like that nowadays, people either get over or underpaid now, and mos of those people have retired by now, or the newer "those types" get stock in the "new model"). Often it is not a hard tech skill but a good gut in an emergency, in tech or business.

Then there is this newfangled "communist" or "socialist" model of "companies" and "work" we are seeing that have nothing to do with either of those "isms" or capitalism, where people protest layoffs and expect everyone can get a paycheck while still refusing to check their egos and selfishness at the door. Of course, the truth is "communistic" things are generally pooled and meted out among people in s "commune" where people share similar very specific values requiring trust, and a great majority of those places do not even have the concept of a paycheck.

Either way, income has to come from somewhere. I mean, I guess feudalism could make a comeback if we had a large population die off and people split their time up between farming with high tech harvesting machines and hanging out playing PS4 games off the solar panels after dark, but in general I think most of the people I have seen getting upset make little or no sense.

I mean, is the goal for firstworld and secondworld countries a handful of neuralinked (no thanks) tech overlords we beg for equal monthly monetary alotments from and a world like in "The Machine Stops"? What would you need to do for that ("Black Mirror" and credits?!).

We can't sure all be "YouTube stars" or "self-affirmation LinkedIn gurus", obviously.

Is is corporate slop speak entirely or are many of them just as flummoxed as many of us?

(disclosure: I usually do 1099 work, but I sure know what it is like to suddenly be blindsided.)

dzonga•37m ago
microsoft should ideally be doing the reverse. hiring more workers or re-skilling.

they've the most deployed software in the world - the software is inadequate most of the times (i.e full of bugs). 2nd the software is prone to misuse cz M$ doesn't have enough people listening to customers and making software meet the needs of its users.

if there was a company that should've done the Forward deployed thingy is Microsoft.

dominotw•7m ago
they re doing that.. in india
christophilus•35m ago
My former boss at Microsoft told me this sort of thing is a good way to get rid of your best, most employable employees. I guess he didn’t pass the memo up the chain.
darksaints•30m ago
Well they’re the ones that cost the most money!
catchnear4321•27m ago
there’s a difference between a memo passed and a memo read. (let alone a memo acted upon.)
123-18hv•32m ago
Remember, people, that Microsoft is a reformed company that supports open source and DEI Anything else was flagged up to 2025. Now that they have stolen all open source they fire people.

But some people here have a short memory and already support the new thieves on the block Anthropic and OpenAI.

breezeTrowel•16m ago
Are you saying they had to hire people to "steal open source"?
12378qs•9m ago
Whether it was a necessity or not, they hired many mediocre but dominant open source people up to around 2022 who introduced CoCs, forced the projects to move to GitHub etc. and push for permissive licenses.

And they did fire some of them in 2025/2026.

sam_lowry_•9m ago
Buy, like they dud with Github.
HumblyTossed•29m ago
Take it or wait for the lay offs.

Also, good grief, flooding the market with thousands more people.

2027 is going to be wild. Stock up on beans and rice, folks.

newbie578•9m ago
You are all getting a first row seat to watching the death of an industry.

I wonder where are all those AI apologists who have been touting here for years that jobs will not go away?

7m ago
Yeah, but they've been running layoffs (sometimes more than even yearly) since what, 2022? 2023 at the latest.
drillsteps5•41m ago
Not to say that this is isn't huge, but it's _up_to_ 25%, given that some will accept and some won't.

And the internal memo currently circulating actually does not mention that number so I'd be curious where it came from.

Good4boothee•36m ago
Isn't average corporate worker attrition at 11-12%? so they could achieve that much just with hiring freeze.
vkou
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51m ago
A hundred years from now, COVID overhiring will still be the excuse trotted out in every layoff cycle.
j45•53m ago
Maybe they are shedding workforce to spend more on AI infrastructure like many of the other layoffs to remain competitive.

The layoffs could have nothing to do with the employees.

Spooky23•36m ago
They've figured out that they can offer poorly performing services that suck and nobody cares. The company will continue to explore that concept until people care.

I run an org with 200k employees. We're on our 4th significant outage with M365 services in a month. We're talking major stuff -- including user data like email getting deleted by various processes. Their approach is pretty much "meh".

tayo42•30m ago
They have net income in the billions per quarter
drillsteps5•46m ago
There is a joke "When it comes to AI psychosis, Sam Altman was likely patient 0"

Given all insane bets made by previously (somewhat) reasonable and successful business owners, I wonder how much of a joke it really is...

BobbyTables2•42m ago
Of course it’s a joke.

In order to be “patient 0”, he’d have to be human in the first place…

silisili•14m ago
This is what I was wondering, if they have some internal math that says "15% will probably take this offer" targeting a lower number like 10k. And if they overshoot, it's not like they'll have trouble refilling positions in this economy...
NikolaNovak•44m ago
I've never been involved in such a situation, but I assume part of individual's calculation is: If I indicate interest, but the company doesn't accept it or go through with it and keeps me... am I now viewed as a disloyal, detached worker?
whoamii•34m ago
Company sends you offer first
pseudosavant•35m ago
Microsoft made $134B in net income in the last 4 quarters. It used to be if you worked for a company that was printing boat loads of money that you had job security.

Now, even if the company is crushing it, they'll still see employees more as a cost center instead of a revenue generator.

SoftTalker•31m ago
No, this has never been the case. Companies are and always have been very conscious of wage and salary expenses, as it's one of the most controllable categories on the P&L.
SoftTalker•34m ago
Probably trying to entice people who are close to making a FIRE move (or even just close to normal retirement) to go ahead and do it.

If you still need a job, I don't see it as being very attractive in this environment, unless you're quite senior with very marketable skills.

equal_footing•30m ago
Phew, scary! But it maybe a very real question to ask ourselves. 2027 may be the year when all companies do the same and follow the MSFT model.
seizethecheese•26m ago
My dad was a newspaper reporter in the early 2000s, so there were several dinner table conversations about this dilemma.

The buyouts were taken by superstars and low performers. The superstars moved on to other things, like working in other forms of media.

Dad didn't take several rounds of buyouts and was fine.

After suffering a stroke, he was "put out to pasture", which for a journalist means he was sent to cover city hall meetings in some suburb. Eventually, he retired with some much smaller payout than what the last buyout would have given him. The sense in the family was that the collapse of the industry denied him a dignified last decade of work. (When the industry was flush with cash, older journalists were sort of like "elder statesmen" in the newsroom. Post-internet, no longer.)

Twirrim•20m ago
I've a neighbour who declined, and then got hit by layoffs. It was quite a gamble, and they lost out big time.

Honestly, if work was to come at me with a buy-out offer, and I was in a position to be able to afford to not work for a few years, I'd probably accept. Maybe go find some non-tech work for a little bit to stretch the dollars and ensure I have health insurance.

We're in such a bubble at the moment, things are going to get really rough.

paxy•17m ago
Just because the offer is made to 25% of the workforce doesn’t mean they will all accept. These are generally very well paid jobs and the prospect of entering the job market right now isn’t going to appeal to everyone. Especially not when you have upcoming RSU vests after a recent 50% stock rally. If say a third of the employees accept then it’ll be an ~8% reduction, which is in line with a regular company-wide layoff.
31m ago
MS has had many rounds of layoffs already in the past 2-3 years. If there was anyone visibly checked out, they'd have been gone quite a while ago.
15m ago
hey! we said no questions asked!
geye1234•5m ago
> management said if any layoffs will happen in 3 years period after this, same package will be offered no question asked.

And people believed them?!

rcxdude•5m ago
it'll be part of their internal pay banding system, so it'll correspond to a certain level of seniority and a pay range. From a quick google L70 is pretty high up, up to maybe a 7 figure salary.
hbn•6m ago
> Introducing a Voluntary Exit Offer

Headline is making me laugh cause it sounds like a press announcement for a new product

"The new Microsoft Voluntary Exit Offer, thinner, and lighter, with 20% slimmer bezels than before"