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Somebody please stop the spam texts

https://notes.npilk.com/stop-the-spam-texts
49•npilk•58m ago

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adzm•21m ago
Frustratingly they will send from new numbers each time, so just 'unsubscribing' from one will not really do anything. They will use websites/domains that don't respond to anything unless they have the path in the text message too. It's maddening. Here in Ohio I am getting nearly 100 a day recently. I would like to block unknown numbers, but I have kids and I certainly don't want to miss an emergency message.
bombcar•16m ago
These and the loan calls are making the medium useless

We're going to have to go to double-opt-in just to communicate.

esikich•15m ago
I've had my phone number for 20 years and I get maybe one or two a month. Are you guys reading or responding to them? I just archive them when I see them. I don't know what I'm doing right, but it's just never been a problem for me and I'm not sure why. I'm not particularly careful about hiding my number and have the typical grocery store rewards cards and whatnot.
ericbarrett•10m ago
Did you ever provide your phone number at voter registration? I made this mistake once and got added to dozens of text lists, Democratic and Republican. Never had a problem from the usual leaks.
esikich•8m ago
Yes and those are really the only texts I get, as a matter of fact. Various polls.
LooseMarmoset•1m ago
I have never provided my phone number at voter registration. In any case, all the texts to me are marked with "Hello Louella". I have also been "Brenda".

I am not a Louella or a Brenda, more of a "Joe" or "Frank".

I am quite sure that ActBlue just creates a list of names, then create a wardial list and assign those names to a number.

Asking them to stop just confirms your number to work. And yes, it's ActBlue because they have specifically identified themselves as such more than once.

mmcclure•4m ago
I don't know what happened, but this got INTENSELY worse for me in the last ~6 months. I never respond to them and mark as spam and move on, but I get multiple calls and texts from unknown numbers every day. Sometimes it's the "hey, I'm sorry to hear about that thing that happened to you" kind of bait, but lately a vast majority of them are trying to offer me business funds or loans or whatever.

I have no idea if my number made its way onto new lists or if the problem just got worse in general, but it's making my phone borderline unusable. I miss any calls from legitimate unknown numbers because of it (delivery people, etc). I've also had my phone number for > 20 years at this point and I can't stand the thought of changing it.

Ensorceled•3m ago
I've had my phone number for more than 20 years and I routinely get 2 or 3 a day.

You're lucky...

jerf•3m ago
It depends on what you get picked up by. My ancient email address picks up all kinds of spam. I'm not sure where the Korean comes from at all. Nor am I sure why this particular woodworker thinks I am certain to buy their woodworking plans on the 842nd email when the first 841 haven't worked. I am a rather classical nerd on this point... not completely incompetent when it comes to home repair, but certainly not doing woodworking for fun on the weekends, and have no idea what signal I showed at any point that convinced someone the contrary might be true.

And then my wife has a completely different spray of spam. The amusing thing to me is that for both of us, while some of it is clearly a matter of what we're doing, she also has weird random stuff on those occasions I am tasked to find what happened to some email, and it's completely different weird random stuff.

I don't know what I did, but this election I've also been getting hammered by spam texts. I hadn't before. Not only that, it is as the author of this piece mentions, rather widely targeted. Messages that are clearly sent from the presumption that I agree with their politics despite very much not doing so... you know, the scare texts where they send "If you don't donate to us immediately the opponent is going to DO X IMMEDIATELY" and you're all like, my gosh, we should be so lucky that X would actually happen immediately but no, that's not actually going to happen. Clearly completely mistargeted. Which leads me to think even the ones I nominally wouldn't hate could well just be random luck too. And for me at least, this was a single change... from nothing last election to every single side and every shuckster trying to push poll me from every direction at once.

JohnMakin•15m ago
If you reply STOP, you just let them know you read their text and it's a number that will respond with an actual person behind it. I would not reply to it. It's very unlikely to do anything but make the problem worse.
ericbarrett•12m ago
I have replied STOP a lot and the political texts do, in fact, stop - at least from that particular number (see my other comment for a rant about this). Of course if you do this to a scammer it is as you say.
JohnMakin•11m ago
You'll just end up on another list for the next election cycle. It's marketers - no one is forcing them to respect STOP replies, and a STOP reply is just another data point.
dv_dt•6m ago
Not even the next cycle, as far as I can tell if you say stop or unsubscribe, the political spam mailing list system adds a new candidate to the ~8-10 candidates they keep you loaded with
WesolyKubeczek•5m ago
It's so bizarre, to get political texts via SMS. Here in Europe, I have got 0 (zero) political texts in my life.
JohnMakin•4m ago
I am not even really in a place with any close or important races and I'm getting 10+ a day, as a data point for you.
joshuat•14m ago
Spam calls, at least in the US, are a much more frustrating thing for me right now
Apreche•13m ago
Screen unknown callers. Any call that comes from a number that is not in your contacts will just be sent to voicemail or blocked entirely.
dawnerd•5m ago
I get four per line per day and have two lines on my phone. They all follow the same script with slight variations and the voicemails are all ai that often get confused and repeat things.
Apreche•14m ago
Screen unknown senders. Any text that comes from a number that is not in your contacts will be stashed away in the unknown senders bin without any notification. Problem solved.
ericbarrett•13m ago
I have replied STOP to many of these and it has reduced the flood, but I still get several a day. The bot's reply to "stop" is always some variant of:

> You have successfully been unsubscribed. You will not receive any more messages from this number.

"From this number" is clearly a legalese parsing of some law or regulation and the end result is that you cannot truly opt out. Infuriating.

verdverm•10m ago
STOP has worked more for me with Dem begging texts, less so with Repub, but not completely with either. I've switched to sending them troll like messages back, which also results in the same unsubscribed message, but perhaps makes it clear I will not give money to politicians.
esikich•7m ago
I'm pretty sure by responding you're just letting them know it's an active number. Could be wrong though.
comrade1234•12m ago
Politicians are allowed to send spam texts, emails, phone calls. They exempted themselves from all of laws prohibiting it. Just block it.
pixl97•3m ago
Yep, political spam, um, isn't spam.

This year has been the worst I've ever seen. Hundreds of them so far.

BeetleB•11m ago
I "solved" this for email years ago (as did many before me):

https://blog.nawaz.org/posts/2018/Sep/solving-my-email-probl...

Any communication channel that doesn't involve a whitelist (e.g. invite/approve) will have this problem. Email. Phones. Text messages.

If you want to fix this, the protocol must ensure the recipient first agrees to communicate with you. Until they do, all messages to them will be automatically blocked.

This solution works. Yes, there are always ways to get around it, but in practice, it cuts the nonsense by well over 90%.

carlgao•8m ago
This was one of the reasons I switched from iPhone to Google Pixel.

Getting less spam was one of my biggest hallelujah moments after switching.

The Pixel has never (AFAICT) mistakenly marked a text as spam, although it has mistakenly declined a few legit phone calls.

It's not perfect but I am a less angry person now.

markkat•7m ago
I simply want a whitelist. If you aren’t on it, you cannot text or call me.
dawnerd•6m ago
iOS has that for calls but they still leave a notification you have to manually clear. I wish for an option to just not tell me at all.
psadri•6m ago
I had exactly the same thought around Apple’s “report spam”. I have marked hundreds of text messages as spam. There is enough training data in there for even a dumb classifier to filter some of this stuff out. But next day, there are half a dozen more, nearly identical spam msgs sitting unread in the inbox.

I have also found that replying STOP = sing of life, your number is marked as “someone alive on the other end” and gets resold to 20 new lists.

dstoe•4m ago
That's what I love the EU GDPR for. By law no one is allowed to use my number without explicit consent in the first place. And if someone spammed me, they have to tell where they got my data from and have to delete it upon request. Love it!
nilamo•2m ago
The TCPA was supposed to stop all spam calls. But we just decided to never enforce it.

Performative politics at work.

pluralmonad•10m ago
I tell my friends and family to never use "unsubscribe" links unless they have a close relationship with the sender. How folks decided directing people to click links in spam email is beyond me.
Sayrus•5m ago
GMail and many other web clients do the unsubscribe request for you if List-Unsubscribe is present. That doesn't leak your information but still shows that you care and is signal for spam.
Ensorceled•5m ago
Gmail will helpfully suggest unsubscribing from obvious spam that contains an unsubscribe link ...
marssaxman•6m ago
After I once made the mistake of donating money to a political campaign, I actually was able to free myself from the torrent of spam by replying END and STOP over and over. It took months, but the messages did stop.

Someone managed to connect my phone number to my voter registration during my recent move, so the spam is back. This time, I am replying END or STOP and then blocking the number & reporting spam, just in case that creates more friction for them.

radicality•4m ago
I forget where, but I remember reading somewhere about how STOP is meant to actually be handled at the carrier level and do something to not allow future messages at all from the sender? Though maybe I’m misremembering?

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