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Roblox downloaded 145GB models from us (including adult content) without asking

https://open3dlab.com/news/roblox-downloaded-145-gb-of-models-from-our-sites/
62•choult•48m ago

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hypfer•26m ago
Only tangentially related, but I've recently realized that unless you're some sort of business with a valid requirement of that, you can just block incoming traffic from all of AWS, DigitalOcean, Azure, etc.

I think the spark came from some other HN comment I saw? So thank you for that, whoever wrote that.

That alone is not a sufficient strategy of course, but you can get rid of a lot of bots by just refusing to talk to where they tend to live.

Of course, if everyone were to do that, they'd eventually pivot to residential proxies. But I don't see that happening.

tommica•23m ago
true! but how does one find all those ips?
hypfer•22m ago
Just ask RIPE
Xylakant•22m ago
That’s pretty easy - all major providers have public lists of IP ranges, usually as json files.
gunalx•12m ago
Allmost all the bottraffic I see is from random residential proxies though.
timpera•5m ago
Same, I just checked and this week the vast majority of the bot traffic I get is random residential IPs that all pretend to be the exact same Chrome 155 on Linux.
cube00•11m ago
I initially thought this was a good idea too until another comment pointed out you'll lose most business or personal customers in offices because they connect through VPN gateways running on those cloud services (especially Azure)
hypfer•3m ago
True but the question is if that matters.

I would argue that more often than not it might not. Really depends on the specifics though.

A lot of stuff on the web actually isn't really relevant for all audiences everywhere I'd say. It just happened to be accessible by all, because academics back in the day dreamt of a better open world that didn't really manifest :(

jeremyjh•5m ago
There have been a number of articles on the frontpage of HN about the residential proxy traffic. It is happening. This was one of the most popular:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49491791

hypfer•2m ago
I know, but it's an extra step, more expensive, and less legally solid.

None of these measures alone are a full solution, but if you stack a bunch of cheese slices, eventually, no holes line up anymore.

stopsayingsorry•3m ago
>But I don't see that happening.

Then you are not looking. Already have to switch to resi proxies from time to time when encountering yet another smartass who decided to play security theater and block datacenter ips on his shitpile he calls website, because "OUR USERS MUST BE GOOD BOYS WHO LOVE TO LIVE UNDER SURVILANCE AND ALLOW ISP TO TRACK THEM 24/7" (and before you say something like "others can track you too!", your ISP has the ability to knock on your door, they should be given as little information as possible, let them do metadata analysis on per-person basis if they really want it, but no 1-click mass surveillance shit).

If you are valuable, you will be be scrapped. Turning user hostile in a hopeless endeavor to "protect yourself" is not the solution.

GL26•21m ago
maybe stupid question but how is it possible to not be protected against supercrawlers like this, when you own large amounts of data, specially if all requests are coming from the same server ? Aren't cyberprotection services like CloudFlare work against this kind of "attacks" ?
Steve16384•6m ago
Yeah, I can imagine it being a problem if it was from different IP addresses, but surely putting a limit on requests from a single IP would be a straightforward fix? Although maybe until it happens, you don't think about it.
caaqil•20m ago
Who actually cares? Isn't the whole premise of the AI revolution just gorging ourselves with other people's data so we can have AGI? I was under the impression that we have accepted this sacrifice with OAI and friends leading the way.
tempfile•15m ago
"we" in this sentence is really a handful of encloistered silicon valley weirdos. Most people do not like it and have no real say in the matter.
Steve16384•6m ago
Who's "we"?
KolmogorovComp•14m ago
I'm sympatic to open3dlab but I think the focus on adult-content is just trying to spark outcry for cheap.

It has been shown times and times against that removing adult content from the training source (at least for diffusion models), results in generally lower-quality output, even outside of adult-content, particularly in terms of representing human bodies.

swiftcoder•13m ago
I wonder at what point the Roblox kids all reach 18 years old, and Roblox can pivot them all to a separate adult version thereof...
peridotintellig•10m ago
I'm not even impressed..
bijowo1676•8m ago
if you put stuff available to download, dont be surprised that someone will download it

What is the actual news here, can anyone explain ????

j-pb•5m ago
3$ in outbound traffic on a public service, how is this news?

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