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ICE Is Running One of the Largest Anti-Left Surveillance Ops in US History

https://www.wired.com/story/ice-is-running-one-of-the-largest-anti-left-surveillance-operations-in-us-history/
231•zzzeek•1h ago

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Dunewalnut22•35m ago
What gets me is how much of this stuff is just bought, not built. Agencies can purchase location and social media data from brokers and skip the warrant step entirely, so I'd honestly put more energy into closing that loophole than into fighting any one agency.
titzer•32m ago
Not a peep from the second amendment types. Curious.
jareklupinski•28m ago
no one poopoos the golem when its on their side

it might listen, and turn...

smallmancontrov•13m ago
Not without work it won't. Trump II has been using "Who won the 2020 election?" as a shibboleth to fill the ranks with True Believers. Nobody gets power without answering "Trump" to that question.
laweijfmvo•26m ago
turns out, they’re into it. they were in favor of it in the 60’s and still are.

the 2nd amendment (the entire Bill of Rights) was written to protect us from our own government, but it’s way more convenient to just shoot brown people or people who speak a different language.

goda90•25m ago
They're not all quiet: https://www.reddit.com/r/liberalgunowners/
dmm•14m ago
What do you mean by this? This article seems to be mostly about govt surveillance and not gun rights.
chasd00•2m ago
Agreed. I'm pro-second amendment, what is the there to comment on here about guns? seriously asking.
lenerdenator•13m ago
There have been multiple instances of people doing things with weapons. It's not good, but it has been done.
fedpost•7m ago
Deny defend depose I suppose
fedpost•9m ago
Go join your local Pink Pistols/Brown Berets/SRA/whatever chapter.

The leftist gun community is mostly focused on arming the LGBTQ community at the moment though. Your chances of getting canoed while trying to stab a trans woman are way up over the past couple years.

cyberjerkXX•5m ago
The same political groups that support hate speech laws are now looking for support from the freedom of speech groups? That sounds like a temporary alliance at best. They aren't going to support you long term because they know leftists are authoritarians of a different color. AKA your rhetoric isn't going to work because you have no principles and they do.
Havoc•29m ago
State resources and armed officers taking a political stance like this is how democracy withers
nbajka•21m ago
State resources and armed officers are all part of a political stance. If you don't recognise it it's because they are on your side. But at a moment's notice their allegiance can switch.
inanutshellus•17m ago
I'd say this is a pessimistic view (as opposed to than realistic view) of how it's been in the USA for, well, my lifetime, anyway.
ironmagma•16m ago
I'll take unfalsifiable statements for $300, Alex.
bilbo0s•12m ago
>But at a moment's notice their allegiance can switch.

Or, more appropriately, on an election's notice.

A plurality of voters preferred to have leaders of a certain political persuasion.

Now, we can complain about the fine print in the platform of those leaders, but..

I mean..

democracy is a team sport. We voted them in.

It's like football:

Yes.

That's an awesome DB. Guy got 2 interceptions and 4 TFLs in that game. I'd love to get that safety for my team.

All that said, his offense didn't score. So guess what? He gets to take an "L" too. That's just how it works.

usefulcat
cellsstudio•24m ago
Man, this is chilling. Between this and those "anti-ice" protestors that got a collective 450 years of jail time, it seems pretty close to police state levels of power, corruption and control.
monneyboi•16m ago
I think we can stop pretending it's "pretty close" and just call it what it is.
tavavex•10m ago
The "pretty close" is a hedge in case if the gun ever ends up pointing at them.
intothemild•10m ago
Sparkling fascism?.
Windchaser•13m ago
> it seems pretty close to police state levels of power, corruption and control.

And: which country has the highest incarceration rate in the world?

technothrasher•5m ago
El Salvador?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_incarcera...

doginasuit
derwiki•21m ago
https://archive.is/2026.10.28-130224/https://www.wired.com/s...
multiplegeorges•21m ago
> After a local activist uploaded a license-plate search tool on Fly.io, a developer-focused public cloud platform, to an infiltrated Signal chat, HSI agents reviewed website DNS queries and Stripe data along with data purchased from a commercial broker. This gave HSI access to SSH session logs, outbound connection records, the Fly.io account’s signup IP, and a Stripe card fingerprint on an account that had never completed a payment. Agents fused that with Minnesota DVS records and commercial data from the Thomson- Reuters CLEAR platform to produce a driver's license nummber, Social Security number summary, years of address history, phone numbers, property records, and jointly registered vehicles.

Wow, I wonder how they got SSH session logs?!

The breadcrumb trail here is chilling.

zhivota•15m ago
Seems like it was fly.io, since they got the user IP from there and it would make sense they would have the session logs.
john_strinlai•8m ago
indeed, the actual case report (https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/28831278-govuscourts...) states:

"technical and network-activity records from fly.io included:

SSH session logs (CSV format) listing multiple "New SSH session" entries for <redacted> with verified=true between approximately 2026-03-26 and 2026-04-01, timestamped in UTC.

outbound-connection records (CSV format) reflecting numerous TCP port 443 connections originating from internal fly.io addresses <redacted> to external IP addresses attributed to AMAZON-02 (Amazon Web Services) in the US and Cloudflarenet (Cloudflare)".

winterqt•1m ago
kevmo•19m ago
This is going to be moderated off the front page.
rc_kas•9m ago
I remember the early days of the internet when hating surveillance was non-political.

Back when it was just nerds on the internet, and powerfull people with agenda's had not infiltrated everything

ballmerpoint•6m ago
Even back then, it was partly various three-letter agencies manufacturing their own criminals to justify the budget.
fedpost•6m ago
Half the people here are working to help them, intentionally or unwittingly.
m0llusk•4m ago
The evidence will remain in ssh logs and such. That is part of why it got posted here. This political struggle has gone technical and we're all involved.
nisegami•18m ago
I think the history of the FBI suggests this will continue long after Trump himself leaves office, effectively becoming a state run gang.
rc_kas•6m ago
don't worry. Global warming will kill us all within the next 100 years anyways.
bix6•13m ago
Stop voting for these assholes.
zenbane•13m ago
>Group organizes massive anti law enforcement operation, including violent rhetoric and threats

>Law enforcement starts monitoring Group

>shockedpikachuface.gif

hilariously•8m ago
Hmmmmm, I wonder why this group organized in the first place? No matter, clearly the cops are always the good guys right?
nxobject•8m ago
> One of the Largest Anti-Left Surveillance Operations in US History
vincnetas•7m ago
curious is fuck ICE a "violent rhetoric" or threat? Or how else can you disagree with people who abuse their power? "Please stop doing that"?
darkarmani•11m ago
> Court records show the feds used an administrative summons request reserved for violations of customs and taxation requirements, which does not fit the activity that made up the criminal charges filed by the Minnesota US attorney against former CNN anchor Don Lemon and others.

When they are arresting news anchors for reporting on ICE's activities, it should be obvious that Trump and his administration is fascist-curious.

adjejmxbdjdn•9m ago
It has always been obvious since ICE’s budget was raised over 10x what it used to be, even though ICE was already struggling to find enough people with criminal records to deport, that ICE was intended to be far more than an immigration enforcement agency.
ChrisGreenHeur•6m ago
Could they not deport the ones without a criminal record as well?
nyc_data_geek•5m ago
Sure, along with the occasional public execution, for optics.
throwaway5a•4m ago
How is America any different from Russia or China?
setnone•3m ago
not a us citizen but this seems reasonable from historical US perspective
uxp100•3m ago
Not clear how central the patriot act was to this operation, but it does pop up here.

Russ Feingold was the only Senator to vote against the Patriot act. I really do think about that a lot.

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9m ago
That depends entirely on the degree to which those in power will respect the results of an election.
ajross•12m ago
Both-sides-ism is probably the single worst stance to take here. You're tacitly siding with whoever actually holds and wields the power. Not caring which one wins isn't helping anyone at all, even you.
nbajka•9m ago
> You're tacitly siding with whoever actually holds and wields the power.

No, I’m not doing that. I’m not even American. But I know that giving someone a weapon means they can eventually try to use it against you.

Larrikin•2m ago
Both sides argument are springing up like weeds all over the various forums in the last couple weeks before a predicted major shift in Congress.

If you have deeply unpopular policies but only 1/3rd of the country is expected to vote, telling everyone their vote won't matter is the best stance to take.

Windchaser•10m ago
> But at a moment's notice their allegiance can switch.

Is that true, though? I don't expect that the individual biases of officers or judges, or the institutional biases of the police or immigration departments, can switch at a moment's notice.

cucumber3732842•4m ago
Entities like the courts and law enforcement optimize for the retention of people who do what they're told and the turnover of those who have their own principals. And this is before you account for the fact that most people will do what they're told before they threaten their paycheck.
mft_•3m ago
Rational people act according to the incentives they’re provided. If that incentive is “follow these new instructions/directives or you’ll lose your job” (or worse?) it takes an especially principled person to object.
JayNitram•9m ago
Our armed officers are supposed to be upholding a constitution, not party preferences.
sixothree•4m ago
And definitely not religious preferences.
adjejmxbdjdn•5m ago
When, in the history of the U.S., have police forces ever been on the left?

Heck, historically the cops have even broken up peaceful union protests, despite being in unions themselves, throwing away all class solidarity in favor of their right wing leanings.

And the police unions have uniquely been extremely right wing, other than during rare highly localized conditions (often involving the democratic candidate being center right at least).

ecocentrik•4m ago
It's more a self reinforcing side-effect of a withering democracy than the cause. The rhetoric from the far right keeps implying that we're much closer to a single party state than the current election cycle suggests and they have proven themselves to be predictors of outcomes they don't directly control so I'm sure more shenanigans will be revealed shortly.
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9m ago
While the Jan. 6th convicts all get pardons.
elgertam•4m ago
Didn't they get 450 years of jail time (spread among nine people IIRC) for attacking a government building with explosives and committing attempted murder?[0] If the start of your pattern of "police state levels of power, corruption and control" is people engaging in organized terrorism, (i.e. using violence for political ends) being convicted of terrorism offenses, then I guess I don't see it. Looks to me like some folks wanted to LARP as revolutionaries but with real bullets & explosives and were surprised the government's tolerance for that was limited.

[0]https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/clyedgnyn4mo

DNS, too. I imagine they weren't using their ISP's DNS server, as that could cut out needing a bunch of this data, but then I wonder what data they did get from whatever DNS provider...

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